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About Album Reviews...

full_on
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 18:18
Well, sometimes I go on the album review session and read some people writing bad reviews about some albums I like very much, like Dynamic, Fatali, Melicia, etc... People say "they´re all Astrix clones, no inovation here, this album is boring, etc..."

I know people is just giving their opinion, this is the reason why this forum exist: for people share news and their opinions. But...

Unless I like at least one track on an album, I´ll not review it. Think about it: I just don´t like 90% of the minimal tracks and just don´t like 80% of the Proggy stuff. Should I go to the Ticon Aero album review and write: "this albums is as boring as hell, except for track x" or "this is just someone else clone"? No way I´m gonna do that, I just don´t like their whole style and for me most minimal tracks are just boring and clones of theirselves, so why would I review it?

What I´m trying to say is: if you´re gonna make a "bad" review of an artist album, make it a long review, explaining why you don´t like it and, if possible, telling what other albums on the same style are better, and why they are better...
I hope you understand what I´m talking about...
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Dovla
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 18:30
lately I choose rather not to write a review if I think a cd is bad....I think most labels will understand that...           DJ Dovla | Interchill Records, Flow Records
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Surrender
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 18:48
full_on: very good point imho. i agree with you about the negative comments... maybe its true that unless one has a reason why they think its bad, there is no reason to just say it that way. i know its frustrating to you, i have read your comments regarding some cd reviews in that section and people's responses. youre right its good to have diffrent opinions but like Dovla said, its better to just stay away from a review if you dont like it, and not rank down on it.
Zombi
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 19:17
from the real progressive junkie i didnt see those kind of posts, more from pissed off on all scene ppl that look for trax "like in 94".
i, bymyself just skip reviews on albums that i dont like or that is tottaly not my style.           Believe your soul !
slomi
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 19:36
great point.

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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 19:55
i do the same as you... also in top10's and in members' tracks.           REHAB is for quitters
Mike A
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 20:35
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On 2003-07-15 19:17, Zombi Cocktail wrote:
i, bymyself just skip reviews on albums that i dont like or that is tottaly not my style.


How would you know whether the album is your style or not, without reading a review?
Basilisk
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 20:36
Here's a good guideline... if you usually enjoy the style of the release, but not the release itself, perhaps it is good to say a few words, even if negative... but it doesnt make sense if you don't like the style (prog, full on, whatever) and then make a bad review. Generally I try not to say anything negative if I can help it - after all, isn't that the trance vibe?
Mike A
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 20:41
I don't see the point in writing only positive reviews.
Taken from dictionary.com:
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re·view ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-vy)
v. re·viewed, re·view·ing, re·views
v. tr.
To look over, study, or examine again.
To consider retrospectively; look back on.
To examine with an eye to criticism or correction: reviewed the research findings.
To write or give a critical report on (a new work or performance, for example).
Law. To reexamine (an action or determination) judicially, especially in a higher court, in order to correct possible errors.
To subject to a formal inspection, especially a military inspection.


To give a critical report.
A review is meant to give an opinion about the album so a potential buyer can decide whether to purchase the album or not. A reader which sees only positive reviews is mislead.

Maybe some of you seen it, but on my reviews I try to keep the positive spirit of IsraTrance, but I always have a but, another opinion, pros and cons. In my opinion that's good way to write a report. Show what's good and what's bad (even if it's only good or only bad) so the buyer can decide.
peter


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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 21:58

Mike A you are right, but he was saying if it's a bad review at least to explain why and give more info on why , which I agree with.


Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 21:58
touche mike. finally, someone who understands the meaning of the word.
Full_on, I've been reviewing CD's for little over 2 years now, both Professionally and semi-serious reviews. I found it's very hard to criticize a bad album, especially in this scene. you've got to walk on eggshels lest there'll be some angry artist or compiler knocking at your door (or ICQ, or this forum), as we've seen some weeks ago.
to review an album is to give a concise, accurate report of YOUR IMPRESSION of said album, book or article. people here are trying to give complete reviews as much as possible. give'em a chance.          "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb

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Pavel
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 22:25
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On 2003-07-15 21:58, Jason (LyTe) wrote:
touche mike. finally, someone who understands the meaning of the word.
Full_on, I've been reviewing CD's for little over 2 years now, both Professionally and semi-serious reviews. I found it's very hard to criticize a bad album, especially in this scene. you've got to walk on eggshels lest there'll be some angry artist or compiler knocking at your door (or ICQ, or this forum), as we've seen some weeks ago.
to review an album is to give a concise, accurate report of YOUR IMPRESSION of said album, book or article. people here are trying to give complete reviews as much as possible. give'em a chance.



Sometimes i try to understand how you feel when you review a trance album for such a major Israeli website. You really have to be careful there, cause in one hand you are a journalist and you have to tell the truth (or what you see as your truth) and in the other hand you must be a good ambassador to a music that you very much like and want to promote. It's pretty hard dilemma fot you i guess.

I sometimes hear a CD and have a lot of bad things to tell about but most of the time i refrain myself from doing so because it's somewhat unfair for the scene (Not that i feel that my opinion is important enough, not as much as yours atleast as a journalist). I heard this year several very dissapointing releases from very respected and established artists, but i wouldn't open my mouth to trash it cause i didn't want to ruin the party.

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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 22:43
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On 2003-07-15 22:25, Pavel (microByte) wrote:
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you must be a good ambassador to a music that you very much like and want to promote.



wrong. i am not being paid to be an ambassador to any kind of music. i review trance because i like trance. i also review metal, because i like metal. i also review hip-hop, jazz collections and an excessive amount of musical generes which i don't like, like mtv hits, house music, club and dance, because it's also my job - to write about what i think.
however, when i review stuff for isratrance, i try to be an ambassador to the music i love, because this site represents this music and has given me many of my friends and compatriots, and a lot of musical divergence and education. I am not being paid to carry the word of the music i like. i carry the word of the music i like regardless of payment; but while it is in the bounds of my job, i can't exceed those limits.           "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb

LyTe Email:TechnoLyte@gmail.com
Pavel
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Posted : Jul 15, 2003 22:46
[quote]
On 2003-07-15 22:43, Jason (LyTe) wrote:
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On 2003-07-15 22:25, Pavel (microByte) wrote:
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you must be a good ambassador to a music that you very much like and want to promote.



wrong. i am not being paid to be an ambassador to any kind of music. i review trance because i like trance. i also review metal, because i like metal. i also review hip-hop, jazz collections and an excessive amount of musical generes which i don't like, like mtv hits, house music, club and dance, because it's also my job - to write about what i think.
however, when i review stuff for isratrance, i try to be an ambassador to the music i love, because this site represents this music and has given me many of my friends and compatriots, and a lot of musical divergence and education. I am not being paid to carry the word of the music i like. i carry the word of the music i like regardless of payment; but while it is in the bounds of my job, i can't exceed those limits.




Well 2 thumbs up for the journalistic integrity then. I know that if i would have been journalist i'd have this dilemma all the time.           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Candy
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jul 16, 2003 07:48
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On 2003-07-15 19:17, Zombi Cocktail wrote:
from the real progressive junkie i didnt see those kind of posts, more from pissed off on all scene ppl that look for trax "like in 94".
i, bymyself just skip reviews on albums that i dont like or that is tottaly not my style.



Zombi, you're turning this thread again into progressive reviewers vs full on reviewers.

If you don't like a c.d, don't review it. Others will. But you surely can make a comment after the review (that somebody else did).
I personaly write reviews only about cds I liked - to make people understand why I liked it and hopefully to make them buy the cd.
          Majority is never right!

"Without music, life is meaningless."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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