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152 bpm is it to fast for dark trance dancefloor?
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Analogika
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 15:53
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All right we can long discuss this topic.I am only sincere cannot understand furious speed.Can it be true in this all talent of artist in paces?With such tempoes through year 2- 3 speed of trans will pass on 300 bpm? But this not the most main-the most main those that in future people will more energy  If to hear so as Energy Loop -High BPM Music For High Energy People ......I not right? |
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Mat N
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 17:04
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On 2006-06-27 08:20, lokus wrote:
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On 2006-06-26 15:13, Janux wrote:
i think that people who like such high bpm are usually young. (like between 16 - 20 years old)
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maybe, i know some young people who play only that fast...
i personally play never faster then 146, 147.
playing faster is only more hectic imo.
its not "the faster the better or more killah"
btw im 32
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same here, but i'm 27
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DAHAKA
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Posted : Jun 27, 2006 20:31
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Just ask to cosmo...!!! but I love the brutal music its excelent |
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 04:05
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On 2006-06-20 22:31, dj_anubis wrote:
do you think to play tracks in 152 BPM is ok for the dancefloor in dark trance parties or is it to fast?
do you think that 152 bpm tracks will work on the dancefloors?
another question for the dark trance DJ`s do you play 152 tracks on the dancefloors with their original bpm?
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Do you think that 136 Bpm is to slow ?
Do you think that 136 Bpm will work on the dancefllor ?
Listen .. Haha .. You got in here some funy questions !
I realy dont think is matter the speed . Time for
everything . Party start slow and get higher and
faster till the morning come . Thats the all point
in here . Some peoples like and some dont . Why
allways im seeing in here so many topics on this
silly foolish subject ? . Its realy not matter ... !!!
And for your last question (And the good 1) Yes ..
I start my sets on 136 and finish in 160 (With the
orginals tempo) I have many tracks from down to
up so i can play with and all sound great ! Im not
change the track for (For what ?) All are waves &
orginal and on the same bpm that i wrote them
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pinkE
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 15:32
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well I personally think that everything you wanna tell in over 150 bpm you can say it in 148. lately most dark artists try to push the limits of the bpm higher and higher and thus IMO lose the essence of what dark really is... the mystery-horror-hypnotic realm that the track is supposed to suck you into is somehow being lost on all the speed and the banging. Im not saying its nesseccarily an age thing (although it is much more common in the young generation of the dark artists or older ones who have changed their bpm), it just seems like the faster the track goes the souless it soundz. and therefore there are much more "dark" artists and the cryteria of todays tracks seems to be 150+... its a shame , and I think that, that energy should have been invested in the originality/uniqeness and fascination of the track itself - qualities that are missing in most of todays "dark"
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 19:59
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On 2006-06-28 15:32, pinkE wrote:
most dark artists try to push the limits of the bpm higher and higher
lose the essence of what dark really is...
150+... its a shame
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1. No one try to push anything (Belive me)
You know .. Peoples are differents , Some
of them likes slow and some of them high .
When i start a new track on 140 , 142 , 155
(Not matter ..) Its not to push or what ever
its a situation of artist mode (At that time &
moment) , character of the creator and his
temperament and feeling ..... There is much
more then you are thinking behind a track &
story . Each one with his own 'language' and
way . So man .. Pls ..
2. lose the essence of what dark really is ?
Haha .. That was good ..... What dark are
is .. ? You know .. Some time i download some
tracks (In the new tracks section) when i see
in the headline that some one wrote in ther ...
DDDAAARRRKKK .... But some time at the time
when i hear the tones is seems that there is no
connection to what that wrote in there (Again
man .. Its a matter of what each person think
of his own work . What u thinking its not what
i or others and what the others thought its not
must be yours and that is all the beauty in here
Dark can be on 142 , 143 ,145 , 148 , 152 , 155
or more ..... All is matter of taste , So to come in
here and say this or that in a so absolutely and a
resolution .. This is abit crazy and madness . dark
can be everything , All the options are open man
.. Think about .. ! .
3. 150 + Its a shame .. Haha ... Realy .. ? (Maybe
in sweden) Well .. Shame on you all the darker
artists that pruduce and bisector & cross that bpm
All of you .. And if you will .. You will never get
the daughter of the king of sweden ! remember
that ! .
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 20:39
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pinkE
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 22:30
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On 2006-06-28 19:59, Cardinals Cartel wrote:
1. No one try to push anything (Belive me)
You know .. Peoples are differents , Some
of them likes slow and some of them high .
When i start a new track on 140 , 142 , 155
(Not matter ..) Its not to push or what ever
its a situation of artist mode (At that time &
moment) , character of the creator and his
temperament and feeling ..... There is much
more then you are thinking behind a track &
story . Each one with his own 'language' and
way . So man .. Pls ..
2. lose the essence of what dark really is ?
Haha .. That was good ..... What dark are
is .. ? You know .. Some time i download some
tracks (In the new tracks section) when i see
in the headline that some one wrote in ther ...
DDDAAARRRKKK .... But some time at the time
when i hear the tones is seems that there is no
connection to what that wrote in there (Again
man .. Its a matter of what each person think
of his own work . What u thinking its not what
i or others and what the others thought its not
must be yours and that is all the beauty in here
Dark can be on 142 , 143 ,145 , 148 , 152 , 155
or more ..... All is matter of taste , So to come in
here and say this or that in a so absolutely and a
resolution .. This is abit crazy and madness . dark
can be everything , All the options are open man
.. Think about .. ! .
3. 150 + Its a shame .. Haha ... Realy .. ? (Maybe
in sweden) Well .. Shame on you all the darker
artists that pruduce and bisector & cross that bpm
All of you .. And if you will .. You will never get
the daughter of the king of sweden ! remember
that ! .
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a few corrections -
1. Im not a man
2. Im not living in Sweden but in Israel (its my preferable genes  )
now as for your remarks I suggest you would read my post again and notice that I express ONLY my opinion therefore Im not stating any absolute atatement (hence : forum - people writing and talking about their opinions and way of thinking)
second, if indeed there is only the character of the creator and cet behind the track how do you explain that this kind of bpm (150+) was hardly this often 3 years ago, infact there is a dramatic climax during the past 2 years of artists who tend to creat in this kind of bpm so by "pushing" I mean the present trend.
third, I never said that "Dark" cant be in 150+, there are several of very good tracks (again IMO) above that bpm BUT as you said the whole use of the Dark word is somewhat being overused and abused (its like progressive artists will start calling themselves progressivepsy) but again each person's definition of "dark" is different, I just think (again IMO) that a lot of the over 150 bpm is simply noise, and I guess living in Tel Aviv I kinda get a lot from it everyday already...
and last, perhaps our definitions are different but please try to read the text as it is and not taking my post out of context, and I siriously doubt if any of the swedish guys here would wanna get the princess, did you see her? eventhough the palace can be a great studio... hmmmm
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Manash
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 22:54
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On 2006-06-28 15:32, pinkE wrote:
well I personally think that everything you wanna tell in over 150 bpm you can say it in 148. lately most dark artists try to push the limits of the bpm higher and higher and thus IMO lose the essence of what dark really is... the mystery-horror-hypnotic realm that the track is supposed to suck you into is somehow being lost on all the speed and the banging. Im not saying its nesseccarily an age thing (although it is much more common in the young generation of the dark artists or older ones who have changed their bpm), it just seems like the faster the track goes the souless it soundz. and therefore there are much more "dark" artists and the cryteria of todays tracks seems to be 150+... its a shame , and I think that, that energy should have been invested in the originality/uniqeness and fascination of the track itself - qualities that are missing in most of todays "dark"
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i agree
the real dark music, IMO, is slower.
there are fasters dark trance, but the slowers are more introspective.
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sundrop
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Posted : Jun 29, 2006 01:31
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hehe when i started making music
i wanted to make psytrance.
i didnt know what tempo it was so i used 180 bpm.
actually you can make some very melodic and evolving story at that speed.
really the speed doesnt matter
just the artistry put into the track
the trick is, at higher tempos, you have to put more artistry i think, otherwise the repetitiveness will kill the song quickly. |
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0v3rd0s3d
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Posted : Jun 29, 2006 02:19
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On 2006-06-29 01:31, sundrop wrote:
i didnt know what tempo it was so i used 180 bpm.
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yupi, i'm not alone 
well i have to agree with Cardinals, the story,who tells it, knows how it is suposed to be told, it depends on the artist mood on that particular time.
it doesnt matter if it is 130 or 160, since its a good story and psychedelic 
"dark", as u call it, at lower bpm is supposed to be more involvent.. its made for u to think
faster means agressiveness, its for u to get out all of your bad energies and dig like if there was no tomorrow so dont call it dark plz lol ;x
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lokus
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Posted : Jun 29, 2006 08:34
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On 2006-06-28 15:32, pinkE wrote:
well I personally think that everything you wanna tell in over 150 bpm you can say it in 148. lately most dark artists try to push the limits of the bpm higher and higher and thus IMO lose the essence of what dark really is... the mystery-horror-hypnotic realm that the track is supposed to suck you into is somehow being lost on all the speed and the banging. Im not saying its nesseccarily an age thing (although it is much more common in the young generation of the dark artists or older ones who have changed their bpm), it just seems like the faster the track goes the souless it soundz. and therefore there are much more "dark" artists and the cryteria of todays tracks seems to be 150+... its a shame , and I think that, that energy should have been invested in the originality/uniqeness and fascination of the track itself - qualities that are missing in most of todays "dark"
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well written
i agree
- last possible solution
- trick music
- ambivalent records
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ps: y trance?
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!Ce M@n
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Posted : Jun 29, 2006 09:33
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On 2006-06-24 21:23, SofiaX wrote:
,,,,Narcosis's new track @ 172 is killer for the dancefloor also
152 is normal ...
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152 is normal LMAO...
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Biniu
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Posted : Jun 30, 2006 14:24
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Faster, Stronger, Psychedelic:) |
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : May 3, 2007 01:45
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On 2006-06-24 21:23, SofiaX wrote:
,,,,Narcosis's new track @ 172 is killer for the dancefloor also
152 is normal ....
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