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[12.06.07] Skazi live @ Ft. Liquordale - Beachplace
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maximjou
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Posted : Oct 10, 2007 06:13
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nice party! are they playing before or after gwen stefani? i cant wait to see gwen rock the house ! |
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Zman
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Posted: Oct 10, 2007
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On 2007-10-10 05:42, chappele wrote:
Close enough...
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chappele
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Posted : Oct 10, 2007 14:56
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what would u define em as? rockstar is not a genre damnit |
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konvndrvm
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Posted : Oct 10, 2007 18:02
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Amen to that Preacher Yidam!
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florida_sell_out
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Posted : Oct 10, 2007 18:15
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Hi, this is my first post. I wanted to say that the Floridian Psytrance scene makes me want to listen to Jam Rock.
Yes, another wanna be Psy Metal club night in south Florida. Bring your Dollars my friends. Also bring ear plugs so you can protect your ears from the Cheese.
Chasan and Roi, Like our talented Isreali producer friends: Skazi, Yahel and I.M, You guys are almost super stars! however, lacking the talent.
I dont mean to be negative. Sometimes sarcasm can breed positive changes.
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florida_sell_out
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Posted : Oct 10, 2007 19:25
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count this...
Skazi bookings are a very useful way of following the bullshit of the psy-trance scene these last few yrs. Also goes to show that as an event management group you either are clueless as to what Skazi really does on stage or are just another one looking for recognition by pulling as many numbers as your euro trance buddies.
So when you go upto Asher to hand him his Pepsi cola take a look as to the amount of work done by this so called live electronic band (make sure you remind him to plug the guitar into the amp). Then remind yourself of the amount you're paying him to play. Figure out how many lesser known artists you could have supported instead. Then go find a mirror and try to reflect on what exactly you 'think' you are doing for the florida psy-trance scene.
And if you're still confident in what you support come back to this forsaken forum and post your thoughts.
Thank you come again.
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Zman
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 05:04
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On 2007-10-10 18:15, florida_sell_out wrote:
Hi, this is my first post. I wanted to say that the Floridian Psytrance scene makes me want to listen to Jam Rock.
Yes, another wanna be Psy Metal club night in south Florida. Bring your Dollars my friends. Also bring ear plugs so you can protect your ears from the Cheese.
Chasan and Roi, Like our talented Isreali producer friends: Skazi, Yahel and I.M, You guys are almost super stars! however, lacking the talent.
I dont mean to be negative. Sometimes sarcasm can breed positive changes.
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Just when i thought Florida had no hope judging from the other posts on this thread  God bless you whoever you are mate  and yes earplugs are vital dont forget them you foolish goons who want to jackoff to ASHER killlearrrrrr! grrrr! brrrrr!!!!! ooooh :-O guitar, boom, shivashakti shanti magic ultrakiller boomboom aciiiiiiid musix SWISSA
cammannnnnnnn 
ps - im sorry im only expressing my opinion...
....which happens to be right all the time
no hope, no scope , only dope 
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psyman
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 18:12
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Hello people.
Just my point of view.
I have been organizing Psy Parties in Miami before so I speak from expearience.This is Miami people not NYC LA SF or even ATL or CHI very very very hard to promote Psytrance here. We have been doing couple of parties without bringing the SKAZI and the rest of "rockstar" artists you know what I mean and the results were very few people.
Now.
I'm not even talking about money here that is envested in a party, think about the effort, time, nerves, pressure, etc envolved here.And then to see a few people attend and even fewer dance ?As an oprganizer I felt horrible dont mind the money lost.
So if it will take Skazi or IM or Yahel to bring out the Israelis that live in Miami and ,(those are the names they know from back home) I say all for it there will be Psytrance at the party mind that .
But you have to get the people out to the Club and beliave me its hard in Miami .So if thats what you have to do in order to have a lot of smiling dancing people Im all for it.
Revolution are currently the only ones doing something in Miami big up for them count me in with a lot of friends and support and love.
Remember nothing in life is perfect... That is until you make it perfect.We have the power to make it a great party.
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JOAQUIN
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 18:59
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Your right Psyman. Big ups to the PSY in any shape or form... Miami is not the only weird place in Florida. The whole damm state is a Vortex. 
What really needs to be done by party organizers is to take the focus away from the club. The downfall of clubs are the alcohol related bottom line  .
PSYTRANCE is forest music, its field, and swamp music. There is alot of land in FL. Lets take the tribe outdoors.
Who's got some land? Lets go camping.
Some wishful thinking for the Floridians in the Forum. 
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paradigm
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 19:23
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psyman, I see your point from a promoters standpoint......
but well Skazi is not psy. Even in interviews he denies making psy....
best description of his music i think is a fusion of UK hard house & guitars.
Instead of bringing the worst and biggest names global psy has to offer
why not try a multi-room venue and show, with a real trance act and a breaks or house room to boost numbers.
Do the multi-genre approach instead.
or instead of Skazi at least go the Astrix, GMS route instead if you need the big names.
At least those acts still call themselves psy......
as bad as they may be
Logical Light Music - SF
Straylight Productions -SF
Sound/Mind - Denver
Xcience - Midwest
mixes for dl at :
http://www.thehothouse.net/straylight/paradigm/index.htm
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*lovenlight*
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 19:55
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On 2007-10-09 23:23, revolution_events wrote:
nice *lovenlight*, you've got 112 posts now,
keep on going soon u will get
IsraTrance Junk Member.
need to change this system.
or adding ignore users option.
looks like negative people all over isratrance, when it comes to israeli artists, or supporting small scenes around the us.
when u say love and light mean it.
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i think Ive cleared my stand point VIA a PM to you.No need to get personal on the thread directly.
Yidam- exactly my view in ur post!Thanks for putting it into words.
ps: now i have 113 posts...countinggg.
"END THE OCCUPATION!"
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revolution_events
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 20:09
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paradigm, we have done the multiply room,
with real psy-trance acts, combine with "house electro room to pull more headz. the party was total lost. what can we do as the non "rockstars" artists are not so popular here.
but we didnt give up.we believe in music education, and through those "rockstar" artists we can make the psy scene bigger,or atleast expose more people to the psy music, with the local psy artists that play before and after, the main act.
zeav, are you back from israel ? contact me when you got a chance.
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ROE REVOLUTION
www.myspace.com/revolutionproductions
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psyman
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 21:11
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No man I will be back beggining of NOV.
To Paradigm Oh man I still remember your epic set at the 2005 BM would love to hear you play again maybe soon?
You are right from a point no doubt I was just explaining to people one of the espects why bringing big name.
Like Roe said Skazi WILL bring a desent amount of crowd and they will have locals playing Psy before and after him . And thats what I meant by saying there will be Psytrance at the Event.
Chears brother you maid my Friday morning couple of years back.
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mono mono
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Posted : Oct 11, 2007 21:57
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On 2007-10-11 19:23, paradigm wrote:
psyman, I see your point from a promoters standpoint......
but well Skazi is not psy. Even in interviews he denies making psy....
best description of his music i think is a fusion of UK hard house & guitars.
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And there's no reason to assume that your typical club go-er will make any association with psytrance, if they knew what that was anyway. For some on this forum, you're living in the past associating Skazi with the psytrance movement. It's obvious they've moved into a different musical place. the only reason it's posted here is 1) this is ISRAtrance- the isra stands for Israel and Skazi has to be one of Israel's rock darlings judging from the popularity, 2) that past association makes for some cross-over.
Yep...I knew this flame-war was coming. Anytime Skazi is mentioned in this forum, flak is sure to follow. It's all too predictable..maybe it is time to move on...
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Magox
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Posted : Oct 12, 2007 00:04
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The post that i originally made was not in any sort of defense to Skazi or his music, it was a response to Zmandan's constant negative, childish posts.
Yidam, i read your post, be it that you may have good intentions, i believe that you probably are not too familiar with what's going on here in Miami or South Florida for that matter.
I live in Miami about 8 months out of the year, and I am very familiar with the scene over here. The scene here electronically speaking is house (of all sorts), and trance (tiesto, vandyke), and psy i would say is pretty much non existant.
This is a club style city. Party non stop, but club style. It is what is!!
You can't force your taste's on people.
So we are in Miami, and in miami obviously there are lots of Israelis here, it just makes sense to cater to the israelis.
If you had some lesser known talents as you stated come play at an event, you really would have a terrible turnout. After reading Psyman's post (which btw i thought was extremely accurate and depicted the true story of what really is happening) i'd have to agree with him fully. Just imagine it. You put a lot of work into creating something (whether it's psy or not is irrelevent) and you spend your hard earned money, you put countless hours into your project, you sweat, you stress about certain things, and you do all this work, just to find that less than 30 people turned out to your event (half of them being from your crew). It is absolutely demoralizing  not too mention the insult and abuse you recieve on line (like isratrance for instance) talk about insult after injury.
and in fact, all your really doing is that your hurting the scene you are trying to create.
people who wanted to try psy for a change and check it out, will not want to comeback because they didnt see anything special, the turnout was low and they didnt feel the magic of the synergy of people dancing. You have to understand, the people in miami are not as "cultured" psychedelically (whatever that means) as in other places. So when people don't see a good turnout, it is considered a failure, and it hurts the promoter for the next time he tries something. That's just how it is...
Then the promoter feels so demoralized not too mention the financial loss that he took, that he is very hesitant to do something again. Which hurts the scene because then who will step in next?
I'm not saying that this is the only way to create a scene. But you have to understand where you are, and what you need to do to create it....
Infected Mushroom, Yahel, Skazi definitely aren't what we consider psy trance anymore, and yes, many of us feel that they have sold out....
and definitely there are other artists that many of us would rather see and hear, but the fact of the matter is that they can be helpful in trying to create a scene. Personally this is not the route i would take to create a scene, at least not with these artists ( no disrespect ), but it can serve as a bridge. A bridge to bring more people into the scene.
Now it depends on what the organizers intentions are, if they just want to make money, then so be it!! after all they are not advertising the party on there flyers as psychedelic and the reason why they are using this forum, is because they use to be psychedelic, and there are people that look at this forum that either live and visit florida (not too mention, the average fan who doesnt know too much still consider these acts psychedelic) so by posting it here, obviously it gets a little bit more exposure.
But if they do want to create a psychedelic scene, and they want to use these artists, i dont have a problem with that, but what they need to do IMO is have some of there djs or invite some djs that will play some psychedelic at the party, so the bridge you hired (skazi) will at least bring the people in and you will get to expose the music that you would like to provide for everyone.
If done in this way, i dont see the problem.
Or the other way to do it, is have incredible patience. Find small places, outdoor or indoor (even tho finding outdoor locations in southern florida is tough) and have your friends and invited to play, and start off small, and have patience and fun while doing it....
It's easy to criticize, but not so easy to create something.
i wish them luck
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