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ZenMind - Dying Earth

ZenMind
ZenMind

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Posted : Feb 24, 2007 19:14
Hello bros & sistrs a new track begining this time dedicated to Mother Earth and the present state of nature...we the free minded should act energetically to stop this madness. Planet is dying and the world acts as if it was nothing ...
I hope this will be a theme present in all festivals, friends gatherings our day to day lifes. We the few can influence many others in what should be seen as the greatest and worthyest battle ever fought by mankind -SAVING THE PLANET.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pjxgu9

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Ketelf
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Posted : Feb 25, 2007 02:31
Gorgeous work on this Filipe!
Keep banging them up like this!           Be well...

" Happyness lives not outside of us,where we generally look for her,but inside of us,where we rarely find her... "

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alienzo

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Posted : Feb 26, 2007 07:37
Another beautiful peice of art in construction

bBboOoMm

Love your production !

Keep banging !!!

I hear / understand your words about Mother Earth ZenMind

Here is a contribution on this situation , http://www.jackherer.com/

Plz chek it out if ur interested

bBboOoMm

P/L/U/R

dija
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 26, 2007 08:07
LIstening... don't mean to ruin this touching moment but you really want to save yourself, not the planet :)

The vocal sample sounds very out of place imo. The production is nice. I'd like to hear some instrumentation instead of just fx though. Music comprised of just FX, bass and rythm doesn't work for me. To me a song can only go for a minimal amount of time before becoming tiring to the ears/ boring without melody...or leads or whatever it may be. That little synth that bubbles around in the back ground I like it it has a nice dark atmosphere to it and I'd like to hear the volume on it come up a bit. You could build some more instrumentation around it and tone the fx down just a bit.

My opinions take it or leave it. You have great sound design but to me you can't build a song with sound design only. Have fun!!


alienzo

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Posted : Feb 26, 2007 08:26
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On 2007-02-26 08:07, dija wrote:
LIstening... don't mean to ruin this touching moment but you really want to save yourself, not the planet :)







Hi dija

A little bit of a harsh opening sentence don't u think ?

Maybe if u analyzed a litte more on the current state of Mother Earth and not everybodies imperfections in their music production to ur desires , u might come to see something

I hope u put Mother Earth 1st , rather then music production

next time consider the bigger picture before posting such opening sentences

IMO

Take care

bBboOoMm

P/L/U/R
ZenMind
ZenMind

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Posted : Feb 26, 2007 14:02
Hy guys thanks for the comments good or bad

Dija if you want melodies go for full on or pop. Listen closely to what u call fxs the story of the track is about a living being that breads, moves, suffers with your indiference, the other sounds, leads and background, are expressions of feelings and energies battling for survival, the voice? last spiritual call...

All i wish is that we start doing something about the condition of Nature, even if its just dancing if you do it with a porpuse...it creates Egregora a force that comes to life!

Thanks for caring Alienzo

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D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : Feb 26, 2007 20:23
@ Dija

mate i've been reading your posts since a while and i dont understand why u put opinions on matters that dont have nothing to do with your understanding. For the ppl that make night music, psy is much more than the simple "goa, fullon, 5note pentatonic and reused and reused" melodies we use to listen since 94!!! its 21st century already mate, music develops, and music dont mean exactly MELODY!!! music mean STORY, Emotion, Experience, surprise, originality.. u're talking like the critics that critisize Picasso for not drawing realistic.. wow bro.. dont waste your time. if u want to stik to 94 stick there and dont bother. but writing the same boring post over and over again for every user here that makes dark, night and forest...??? stop cryng.. give some creal constructive critics... borring... pfiu!

Psy trance is more than melodies.. its about Scapes!!!! and soundscapes can be sculptured wiht a lot of other things than just direct melodies..

@Zenmind. Awsome my friend!!!


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fungusok
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 00:48
Hey Fellipe!!

I love this track!! it is probaly will be my favorite! ok, you have only 3 minutes... losta time to ruin it hehehehe (im sure you wont ):D

i like voice sample and idea to use it. If I may sugest, maybe to try add similar samples like indian/aburiginal/induit shamanic moaning in the next part of the track... kinda bring together old vibes and new sounds -- I like it!


about gent, who complaining about lack of melody -- people already corrected him hehehe
from me, i may add that there is a whole universe of melodies and fealing in the track.... but just how you explain blind person what are the colors?

loosen up dude, this is PSYchedelic trance and not YMCA disco tune

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dija
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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 08:42
For those of you who are flaming my reasoning.

BTW- one of my songs is titled reconstructing the planet.

First, I thought this was a place for feedback and opinions about music that is posted? Did someone send a telegram that I missed that we are not to post any constructive criticisms? Only respond to songs you like from now on!

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stop cryng.. give some creal constructive critics


What is a real constructive critic? I comment on sound design, melody, rythms, mix/production, what other kind of constructive criticism can I give. You do know what constructive criticism is don't you?

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goa, fullon, 5note pentatonic and reused and reused" melodies we use to listen since 94!


Who said I want it to be like 94. I have mentioned that I like goa. lol, your thoughts convey to me as if goa pentatonic scale melodies are the only possibilities. There are tons of possibilities and melody has its place in ALL music rather it be ambience, or dark psy. Some degree of melody can be implemented to make the experience more interesting.

If you'd take the time to read many of my posts I always take plenty of time to analyze the persons music and I give due respect for good sound design. Often I will listen to a song multiple times and point out exact times. Yeah music isn't all about melody. It needs to be there though. You can't argue that with me(my personal opinion, I thought we gave opinions here). People who don't put melody in their music...why? The answer to me is simple. Because they can't. Any 10 year old can develope a 4/4 kick drum, a root note bassline and some effects with heavy resonance and adjust the LFO rate. Dance music has turned into ok who can use a synth? and who can mix a track? Any 10 year old can throw a million fx onto a channel and make something cool sounding. It takes more than that to write music. Psy has turned into mainstream musics. Everyone copies each other and writes the same crap over and over again. Again if you read my posts you will see that there are some tracks that lack melody that I really like because they were doing something unique. Also if you notice it is VERY rare that I will completely tell someone their song is trash because there is some good to be found in almost everything. I always make an effort to point out the positives along with the things I feel can be improved. Melody just happens to usually be one of them on these forums. Do you want me to just nod my head and say yeah its good man like the rest of you? Or, do you wan't a reasonable analysis of what I really think? I'm sure there are people here that my comments help them improve their music.

I posted a song on here a couple days ago. Some people gave some good comments but most people just said "yeah it's good". I'm beginning to wonder rather these comments were accurate after I see the way most people just post Good song ::thumbs up::: at every post that comes up.

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loosen up dude, this is PSYchedelic trance and not YMCA disco tune


Just because I really want the world to be filled with better music doesn't mean that I am not loose.





About nature... (my original comment was a bit of logic/dry humour but it appears it was over most of your heads)


You people couldn't care less what happens to nature. You just want nature to be there for YOU. I got news people nature isn't going anywhere. The things that will go are US and that is what you don't want. When the earth is tired of us we're as good as gone. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how much we pollute the earth, or kill off all the endangered species (I'm not promoting this behaviour, just making a point). The earth is going to kill us off and replenish itself no matter what kind of damage we do to this planet, we cannot destroy it.

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Maybe if u analyzed a litte more on the current state of Mother Earth and not everybodies imperfections in their music production to ur desires , u might come to see something

I hope u put Mother Earth 1st , rather then music production

next time consider the bigger picture before posting such opening sentences


My friend I am analyziing the big picture perhaps more than you are aware of.


Also, might I ask what any of YOU are doing about nature? Are you doing volunteer work cleaning up trash etc? Are you riding a bicycle instead of driving your car everywhere? Are you turning off all your electricity when you aren't using it? If you do drive a car are you driving a hybrid? Is your stove gas, or electric? Does your home have solar panels for the hot water tank?


Zenmind: I'm sorry that your thread has been taken over by foolishness, but I had to voice my thoughts in the hopes that some of these other people will understand my reasoning.
alienzo

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 11:02
Quote:

On 2007-02-27 08:42, dija wrote:

About nature... (my original comment was a bit of logic/dry humour but it appears it was over most of your heads)


You people couldn't care less what happens to nature. You just want nature to be there for YOU. I got news people nature isn't going anywhere. The things that will go are US and that is what you don't want. When the earth is tired of us we're as good as gone. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how much we pollute the earth, or kill off all the endangered species (I'm not promoting this behaviour, just making a point). The earth is going to kill us off and replenish itself no matter what kind of damage we do to this planet, we cannot destroy it.


Quote:
Maybe if u analyzed a litte more on the current state of Mother Earth and not everybodies imperfections in their music production to ur desires , u might come to see something

I hope u put Mother Earth 1st , rather then music production

next time consider the bigger picture before posting such opening sentences


My friend I am analyziing the big picture perhaps more than you are aware of.


Also, might I ask what any of YOU are doing about nature? Are you doing volunteer work cleaning up trash etc? Are you riding a bicycle instead of driving your car everywhere? Are you turning off all your electricity when you aren't using it? If you do drive a car are you driving a hybrid? Is your stove gas, or electric? Does your home have solar panels for the hot water tank?


Zenmind: I'm sorry that your thread has been taken over by foolishness, but I had to voice my thoughts in the hopes that some of these other people will understand my reasoning.



Hi dija

Its great to hear that u are "aware". As ur original opening sentence sure did not suggest....

I hear u say "we cannot destroy the Earth" , Maybe not in your opinion. But we sure can make the most of it by spreading awareness and being active.

To ur knowledge , I am also aware and active & do everything that i can for Mother Earth.

& no need to force questions onto me. I am aware. & as my original reply suggested , I hope u r 2

Personally i find ur humour stale/offensive.

& possibly anylyzing the bigger picture a little too much take a chill pill

The only foolishness i c is ur nonsense



..
.....now back to the music


BOoOM

P/L/U/R
dija
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 11:56
I see lots of foolishness here. Multiple people with enough time on their hands, to take seriously my words about the earth without thinking about their context. One point I'd like to make, is that its foolish to think that WE can harm the earth. We are flies buzzing around. When the earth is tired of us, we are gone it is that simple. The earth will return to its beautiful self. There's nothing we can do. We will deteriorate the earth to an unlivable state, and the earth will kill us off and replenish itself. Serves us right too Anyways, my comment was ment in this context...Most people are only concerned for the earth because they are concerned for their own well being. To care for the earth for something other than your own well being is well foolish, because like I said, it is somewhat arrogant to think we can do something to the earth lol.

You keep telling me to chill. I am perfectly relaxed and well composed. It appears my logic comes off as being uptight.

Anyways I am done wasting my time. You will never understand my thinking. I am going to continue to review tracks in the same manner I have been unless it is requested that I don't review it. Just telling people that it sounds good is pointless. Maybe I have misunderstood the purpose of this sub forum. I have understood it to be a place to share opinions and help people expand their ideas about their music. I see now that to some people it is a place to share music, and to boost one anothers ego by telling each other how good they are.
g/\8!
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 13:40
well i dont resist to say something,stop the madness you said,i think this song will add some more not the contrary........good production,poor musicz

like the majority infelizmente...too much concentrated on schizo phrenic sounds and production...sorry we dont need more confusion

anyway keep the work and think,by having technology the result doesnt need to be plastic...



d alien said:emotion,story,xperience,originality....................................hummmmmm
not found here honestly


for me SILENCE is an important part of music



dito
D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 14:55
ou my !!
we have here the clash of the PSYCHEDELIC GODS.

take it easy bros.. will give ya Finger-Ache ehehehehehehe
ohohohohohoho

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Xamanist
Xamanist

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Posted : Feb 27, 2007 16:59

Good energy, psychedelic sounds are gorgeous!
too short to judge the building up...

keep it up, good work

boom
ZenMind
ZenMind

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Posted : Feb 28, 2007 13:59
OH! sorry i must have posted in the wrong forum, i thought this was a music thread, really guys this is f..ing sad why all this animosity between us? and i mean generally speaking i see too much fighting over everything, shure we can express our opinions freely and psy is all about that, free minded people! so take it easy all of us, we already are so few do you want to end up disapearing? I respect all opinions even if some are fundamentalist or even ego ofensive it makes me grow every time i face a diferent mind.

No one will ever understand nobodyes thinking you want to know why? Coz no one takes the time to really show it, to really give a part of himself (extremely dificult to do that in a music demo thread anyway ><)...i let my music do that for me...sounds instead of words.

Criticise the hell out of my tracks i apreciate that (or else i wouldnt post here) no hard feelings wen the critic is bad its the only way to improve since i dont have a partner in production and i dont own a die hard studio.

I agree with u dija wen u say critics sometimes are lamme, so dude do what u do, no problems with me, its good that u take time to truly analise a track. Melodies i use sometimes and some other times i dont depends on the feeling of the track and hey i can put toghether more than a bass and a kick, dude i teached Mozart how to play (in my other life hehe)

About Mother Earth...dance to her health, create Egregora!

Boom! be Zen...           -------------d(oO)b----------------

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