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Yasser Hanzi @ Spun Recs?
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full_on
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 16:38
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On 2003-07-22 14:35, DETOX wrote:
I wonder that if this guy wasnt 12 years old would he be signed to any label at all???
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Thatīs what I mean when I wrote: "Hope he joined the Spun team beacuse his mixing skills and his promissing future".
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On 2003-07-22 09:06, Lucas Aly wrote:
full-on: "One more thing to think about: maybe he can help us (our country) to stop associating raves to drugs."
Impossible my friend... hipocrisis is not my strong. how can u say that drugs are not associated with party raves? can u mencionate just one party u went and u have seen NO drugs? of course raves are always been associated to drug, druggaddicteds, drugdealers, that is the REALLITY... ppl are destroying a whole culture and i don't think a single child can change that, in fact i'm afraid, that at his age, is easear for him to be corrupted by the same ppl who "destroy" the raves in Brazil...
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Lucas, didnīt you read my post: "And unfortunately most young guys (and girls) at parties here are on drugs. Psytrance (rave party) is strongly associated with drug use in our country."
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sethspun
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 16:39
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personally,i think you guys are crazy about the age story and only in brasil is a trance party called a RAVE you must be some of the newer trance members in many places trance is a family thing maybe your going there for the drugs but many people are not, i believe there is a change going on in the scene and people like yasser and others are that change like i said he doesnt know the difference between a joint and a cigarrete and when he does he will be old enough to make that decision,personally ive been smoking since i was eleven how about all of you?there is as much pressure outside to use drugs as there is in,plus his dad is with him everywhere he goes and i dont think luiz pauol comments abut his dad are very intellectual laterz seth |
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sethspun
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 16:50
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BY THE WAY THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MARKETING AT ALL,spun just wanted to give a young good dj a chance,dj shanti played the voov when he was 14 there have been many young dj before and they all turned out great ,here at spun we work on a spiritual level not commercial even though many of you dont think so maybe you should look a bit deeper at the situaution before you all go off on your negative vibes but anyway it doesnt matter yasser is definnitly a great dj and will prove that to all of you very very spun take care and try to be a bit more positive about our seen it is every persons right to take or not to take whatever he or she wants its time to wake up people laterz sethspun |
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 17:08
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Seth, I went to many different kinds of psytrance parties here at my country and, unfortunatelly, there was too much drugs in all these parties. Of course, thereīs drugs on non-psytrance parties as well (but at raves thereīs much more explicit drug use).
For example, when I saw Yasser playing at the private party "For Friends" (Ribeirão Preto)
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php?topic=17056&forum=27
where Bishop and Sesto Matan also played, there was a guy rolling a big joint less than 1 yard away from Yasser and his father. They saw the guy rolling and smoking that joint. Also, there was some guys (and girls) smelling launch perfume in front of him, obviously he saw that. (I remember all this very clear, I talked about this with the friends I brought to the party and I didnīt use drugs at that party).
I hope his father educate him about this.
Donīt be hypocrite. We need to admit we have problems in order to solve them.
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DETOX
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 18:21
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Yasser doesnt know the difference between a joint and a cigarette???
Come on Seth you are a professional man so please stop saying things like that cause you put yourself into jeopardy.
And if even Yasser doesnt know this difference doesnt his dad knows what is going on?
Do you know that it is actually illegal by law to expose children under the age of 18 in places where drugs are being used?
If someone goes to the police station and mention all this story to the authorities Yasser's dad will be arrested for exposing his child in great danger.
Here we have not only to deal about 'good and bad' but also about 'legal and illegal'.
Great respect to Spun Records and its artists but this signing of Yasser to the label is tottally wrong in my humble opinion.
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sethspun
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 18:42
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detox is that an international law ,what law are you talking about?maybe greece?in america you can go to a concert at any age and around you are people smoking everywhere,detox you seem to be quite square lighten up dude!!!yasser father loves trance and is happy they can share it together there is drug use everywhere in the world on the streets in clubs T.V. and personally detox spun cares less about your opinion i said this luiz pauolo
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE!! anyway you will see yasser we everywhere gms is in brasil and many other festivals and places
the world is a changing places some of you forum members are like antichrist to the scene between your opinion and comments now i see why its such a struggle for everyone to many narrow minded fucking it up for the rest laterz |
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 18:59
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On 2003-07-22 18:21, DETOX wrote:
Do you know that it is actually illegal by law to expose children under the age of 18 in places where drugs are being used?
If someone goes to the police station and mention all this story to the authorities Yasser's dad will be arrested for exposing his child in great danger.
Here we have not only to deal about 'good and bad' but also about 'legal and illegal'.
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Detox, I dunno how itīs in Greece but I believe itīs actually illegal by law to take drugs...
If the kid has a gift, has a good tecnique, why shouldnīt he be signed by a label? Because of drug use in parties? Cīmon, are u all really that interested in not exposing the kid to drugs? Isnīt it common to see whole families in festivals? If the kids are not playing thereīs no problem?
It seems to me that everybody wants to be a dj and itīs quite hard to see a twelve year old kid achieve something most of us wonīt.
Spun isnīt my favorite label, it seems too comercial to me (sorry Seth) but signing on a really great prospect who has already amazed everyone at Trancendence, in Brasil, seems quite a good move to me!
This kid will probably make a diference in the scene, good work scouting this guy out Spun!
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 20:26
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Sethspun, I understand your point of view, I believe thereīs no problem is Yasser becoming member of such a respected label as Spun Records since he already plays professionally at psytrance parties.
But this is an international forum, your words will stay here forever (unless you are lucky enough and a moderator erase your post  ), so IMO you should write with more respect. Respect is reciprocal, since you represents Spun Records here, our respect for this label depends on our respect to you.
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Electronic Bungalow
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 20:47
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There are some points to be taken into consideration.
1) - As for the Law here in Brazil. There is a specific set of laws & articles which deal with toddlers, teenagers & underages in general. And in several situations, exposing children to danger, be it of a material and/or psychological sort, is considered to be a crime, and if the agent is the childīs father / mother, he/she may even lose his/her parentship rights.
2) - Any responsible & caring parent would / should not allow a very young child to be at the Trancendenceīs environment, or any other party alike, where youīll find dealers by the bunch, drugs aplenty, where by the partyīs intrinsic nature every single moral standard may be denied or at least contested. I donīt know about this yearīs, but last one, there was one case of rape and several ppl got mugged. In my opinion, this make this sort of parties dangerous enough for a toddler.
3) - Nothing against the kid signing with Spun or any other label.
4) - Now onto the next step & grabbing Luiz Pauloīs lead: Donīt you really think it is somewhat odd if, say, a toddler was to MAKE a song about LSD ? I think thatīs stretching a bit further the concept of self-determination and open mindness.
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 20:52
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and personally detox spun cares less about your opinion i said this luiz pauolo
OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE HAS ONE!!
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Is that the spiritual level you've talked about before? Hehehehe, i'll stick to my material level though...
Well, MHO about all this: what a marketing strike! Wow!
I won't give my opinion regarding the ethical principles (although it is very alike to LPs and fullons opinions), but about this marketing strategy....well, what about all other marketing strategies that goes on the trance scene all over the world? Lets put them into discussion as well?
My point is (remember: not regarding the personal principles): why are you so amazed with this mkting strike if there's pleeeeeeeeeeenty of other kinds of mkting strategies going on trance?
Lets open a topic about the nasty abominable self-marketing (that one very common to congress men) practiced by DJs and party producers?
Got my point? Its is just another marketing strike among several we can mention...
My 2 cents...
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 22:29
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DETOX
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 22:46
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Seth exposing a child in an enviroment where his life is in danger is a crime and thats an international law yes.Electronic Bungalow said some words that might help you with Yasser case,please spend some time and read them.
About USA that you mentioned,i own a restaurant and two cafe places in New York and for sure i know the law concerning entrance to bars and concerts better than you my friend do.
Every person below the age of 18 or 21 (depending the state) is NOT allowed to drink alcohol in bars or buy it from any market place and is also NOT allowed to buy cigarettes from anywhere.
Also you are not allowed to any place around USA to enter into a club or a concert without showing your valid ID Card that signifies your age so please dont tell me that children go to concerts where people smoke and drink alcohol around them.
Yes there is drug abuse everywhere in the world but thats also illegal you know.
I dont want Spun Records to care about my opinion but i very much enjoy people in this forum to aggree or disaggree with me by stating their own opinions.
And YES everybody MUST have an opinion otherwise he is not considered a human being and for me people that dont have an opinion are useless to the society,not to mention a threat for the society since they can be easily manipulated by everyone else.
The world is changing indeed but the problem is HOW is it changing.....
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sethspun
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Posted : Jul 22, 2003 23:38
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detox youre crazy and kid can go this weekend to a rap concert and watch people smoke drink and snort.your international law theory is just that a law theory yasser is from sao paulo the most hardcore city in the world he handles himslef like an 18 year old just listen to him dj before yousay anything this thread is going in circles ciao seth |
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DETOX
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Posted : Jul 23, 2003 02:49
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I dont give a shit about the music part of this story havent you yet realised that seth?
We are talking about morality here man,something that you seem to ignore though.....
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marcelinha
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Posted : Jul 23, 2003 03:17
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SCHOOL is a place for children!
For sure he can play and enjoy this...but why not in home? Like hobby, like playing games?!
IMO he is loosing his childhood...maybe he doesn`t care about it, of course, coz he doesn`t hv maturity yet to decide what he wants!
These are my 2 cents!
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