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why is it only in trance that we mix on cd ?
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traveller
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:10
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"Hands up how many people know how a CD is burnt and how the CD player reads that burnt CD? When the CD is 'burnt' the CD-Writer's laser beam is focused through the clear body of the CD onto the dye layer. When the beam is on, it melts a small hole into the thin layer of dye. The laser cycles on & off rapidly ( think binary 1's & 0's) burning a spiral track of melted & un-melted dye which represents the digitally encoded data. This can then be played back with a CD player, which consists of a read-only laser that doesn't heat or melt the dye layer.
How about a record player? A record or vinyl is similar to a CD in that it is also a spiral track. The vinyl is placed on the record player, and the needle in the groove. At the end of the needle a stylus picks up vibrations as the record revolves and these mechanical vibrations are converted into corresponding electrical signals by a device called a transducer. So what does this mean to the sound quality of CD vs Vinyl? Well, it's the distinction between digital and analogue. Vinyl uses a wider range of frequencies than CD does. Although the first counter argument to that statement would be to remind you that the human ear cannot hear the extra frequencies that vinyl uses, some suggest that perhaps it's not necessarily something you can hear, but rather something you can feel. One common conviction that has come out of the thousands of "CD vs Vinyl" debates is that vinyl has a warmer, fuller sound while CD has a digital, mechanical sound. With the advent of DVD-Audio and SACD (Sony's new format) this is changing. DVD -Audio uses 24bit recording, and a sampling rate of 96khz while CD's use 16bit/44khz to store sound information. With these new formats we can far more accurately represent an analog sound signal and capture the "warmth" I'm referring to."
- http://www.thedecks.co.za/djwords/cdvinyl.htm
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kilokif
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:10
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thanks for all those details but i'm not a professionel in music i only mix so there is plenty things i didn't understood :-? |
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blue elf
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:12
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i don't think dust harms vinyls and also many non-trance dj's don't have a person that carry the bags for them.
but u can take cd's from your friends and burn them or download music and burn it, u can also play unreleased stuff which is very important thing  .
another thing is that in full on u don't have to do long mixes only really short and simple mixes and for that cdj's r enough, turntable is just too much for this purpose. unfortunatly there r many trance dj's that don't need even cdj, they could use only simple cd player, but that's another story and question.
borris- kol hakavod for bring your turntable, keep up the good work.
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traveller
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:15
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that's it..
i'm out of this conversation..
to me vinyls represent the past..
it's like choosing a 20" black & white tv instead of 50" widescreen flat panel plasma monitor 
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:17
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i never heard of a dj with 1 cdplayer. would you get into details?
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Surrender
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:19
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On 2003-05-14 16:12, blue elf wrote:
u can take cd's from your friends, u can also play unreleased stuff which is very important thing.
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right on!
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PRAECOX
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:24
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On 2003-05-14 16:01, nectarios wrote:
BUT it's not a question about which is better, they both have things to offer that the other can't.
BUT analog sounds better than digital.
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Zombi
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:35
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On 2003-05-14 15:28, PRAECOX wrote:
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Believe your soul ! |
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blue elf
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:36
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gilad r u talking to me? if yes so-
i ment 2 cd players, the thing is CD PLAYERS not CDJ's.
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Zombi
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Posted : May 14, 2003 16:37
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she mean "u dont need a cdj if u dont pitch/beatmacth your stuff", she is very right.
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Astral Mike
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Posted : May 14, 2003 17:51
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On 2003-05-14 14:49, kilokif wrote:
hi everyone,
i 'd like to know why is it only in trance that we mix on cd ? don't you miss the feeling you had with vinyls ??
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Firstly, i dont think its just in "trance" that dj's mix with cd's.
Re: Goa/Psy, Before cd burners, many pro dj's (artists & label dj's) used Dat players (Digital Audio Tape). I feel Cd's were just a natural progression from this digital format.
Most importantly, the psy-trance market is fairly small. Releasing tracks on Vinyl is simply not that cost effective for labels.
Even so, i personally prefer cd's when dj'ing... i know from experince that vinyl is no match for cd's (in terms of quality). Vinyl maybe "warmer", but i doubt the quality is that good due to additional noise factors created by fluff/dust/scratches/jumping decks/dodgy needles...
Also, as a party promoter in the uk scene for 7 years, i simply won't book a main room dj (nowdays) that insists on playing vinyl. It just not worth the risk. |
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traveller
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Posted : May 14, 2003 18:04
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listen to the professional...
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