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Why is every compilation average??????
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Shimmer
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 04:32
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Why are there only 1-2 great tracks and 2-3 average tracks on a compilation?
How hard is it to put a kick-ass compilation together?
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I think you're listening to the wrong comps. : ) The Timecode comps were outrageously awesome! The Doof comps, exploded my senses! And I have a soft spot for Alkaloid's True Reality, which has some massive tunes on it!
I guess I've been lucky and kept away from the average comps! YaY Me!!!
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yossi
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 14:25
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candy, kindda funny to hear these words from u
not only bcoz u r working for a label, but also bcoz im alsmot 100% positive that u whouldnt listen to the artists and labels u r listening 2day if there warent these "wanna be labels" or "wanna be djs"...
i dont see nothing wrong with the number of labels or artists nowayds.
if u r living in a nice illusion where it only happens in the psy scene, well... thats your choise.
its happening in every scene that in some point become an industry. it nature of things.
its not about greed or playing "wanna be..."
its about ppl wanna Xpress/contribute/have fun/beeing productive/love... every one and his own reasons. and if the label and artists find their croud with no connection to the number of it, then i guess few ppl gets out winners from this.
btw:... u forgot to mention the wanna be party orgenizers, promoters, grafix...
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furthur
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Posted : Dec 25, 2004 15:31
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Personally, I find artist albums to be better than comps; they just have more of a flow to them.
The difference between psytrance of the mid 90s and the electronic music is far greater than the difference between the psytrance of last year and the psytrance of this year. This must be acknowledged. However, it does not at all mean that there are not loads of interesting music out there. It is just much harder to find. Don't wait to be shocked as you were shocked in the 90s. Just enjoy.
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sam i am
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Posted : Dec 26, 2004 05:44
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funny white man wanna-be artistic - blow lotsa money on what he likes.. no biggy, you no like, you no buy. They lose money, they lose money. No big deal if you live the Caucasian Easy-Life throw a bit more money at the art project
people spend money on what they love? cool. They complain when they don't make it back? Whatever. If it sucks, I won't buy it. Look out for "Caucasian Easy Life" comp series on DadaSream  
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styx
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Posted : Feb 13, 2005 07:01
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watch out for Zenon Records from Australia if your bored with shitty compilations 
<--- this one isnt too bad either i guess  im working for it so it cant be that bad
i personally think everyone who feels like should make music!
and everyone who thinks he wants to run a label should do that too if he has the experience, funds and knowledge to do so! but please do your job well cause we are bored with this crap compilations
if i buy a cd nowadays, i make sure i know and like the artists on it! and i go for the underground sound as this is the sound with the spirit and the psychedelic what never gets boringd..
in the end everyone has to decide it for
himself if he is going with the masses or to stay grounded underground!
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Aldus B
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Posted : Feb 16, 2005 09:46
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Check out "Forest" by Doof Records. It is awesome all the way through. Real Psy, the way it should be--
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Yuli
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Posted : Feb 16, 2005 10:41
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Yossi, I dont really believe in this 'dream' of yours. Simply because it is hard for me to understand the possible futuristic concept that every label in the world will have 1 listener ( since every one will have a label ), that is the utmost utopia, by your own words, isn't it?
Well call me old fashioned, but I believe that as not everyone that owns a Jigsaw can be a carpenter ( he maybe can make a very bad chair for the house but never get really recognized as an artist in his field ), so in the same exact pattern of thought, not everyone can be a producer of musical creations - I don't use the word artist because it became a little lame.
I can't be a lawyer - because I and my psyche dont fit for that man. I might wish to be one, but I can't. Now if the studies wouldnt be so hard and actually u only had to invest lets say 2000$ to become a lawyer and half a year of not very hard work... I might have become one!!! BUT think about what lousy lawyer I would be for crying out loud...
Same with music - some ppl are called to make music, it is something they can not live without, it is their calling in life. Some doing that because it can bring money and girls and it is a little push to the ego and maybe free drugs who knows. Same reason to open a label - some do that because they have a strong feel inside about a new and fresh concept or something and some just want to get respect.
To sum it up - it is very good when something is coming in small quantities - ppl learn to appreciate and preserve the quality. That is my opinion - and yeah that is why today most of teh compilations have 2 good tracks in them, 3 average and that is it.
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yossi
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Posted : Feb 16, 2005 13:08
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dunno yulik, i dont realy agree with you
not with the 1 listener per label thingy
not with the carpenter thingy
and not with the lawyer comparison
but its not the first time, and i guess not the last...
and y the word artist Bcame lame baba?
i hope u dont mean that your music is in some way better then "X" artist just bcoz u got signed in a so called big label and "X" isnt...
none of us have some kind of monopoly on art nore its definition.
in the psy scene we have few labels that can be counted on one hand that actually makes a living out of their label, and if u ask me... these labels releases the most boring music ever.
so hell yeah bring on the nu guys!!!
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traveller
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Posted : Feb 16, 2005 16:27
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On 2004-12-23 17:51, kaz wrote:
I'd like to hear an album with X-Dream, Koxbox and Hallucinogen, they're 3 of my favorite acts. For filler tracks, I'd like The Infinity Project, Doof, The Antidote, ManMadeMan and Tristan.
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GT 4 kicks?
01. The Antidote - Bullet CHECK
02. Hallucinogen - Bubble'n Tweak CHECK
03. X-Dream - Move And Proceed CHECK
04. Etnica - Checker Flag
05. Quadra - Back On Track
06. Koxbox - Inside Every Man CHECK
07. Eat Static - Dream Snatcher
08. Alien vs The Cat - The Race
09. The Antidote vs Synthetic - Moon Over The Castle CHECK
most likely 8 jewels and 1 filler.. "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 16, 2005 17:07
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What u name filler the next will name name it jewels.
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ben
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Posted : Feb 16, 2005 23:13
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i have to agree with BLT on this one...
i think we should reserve the term artist for the real ones... the ones that make really good music...
most music released nowadays lacks in originality and depth...
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 00:10
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On 2005-02-16 13:08, yossi wrote:
and y the word artist Bcame lame baba?
i hope u dont mean that your music is in some way better then "X" artist just bcoz u got signed in a so called big label and "X" isnt...
none of us have some kind of monopoly on art nore its definition.
in the psy scene we have few labels that can be counted on one hand that actually makes a living out of their label, and if u ask me... these labels releases the most boring music ever.
so hell yeah bring on the nu guys!!!
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Indeed, who is the judge to tell objectively what is art and what is not, what is good music and what is not? One man´s garbage is some other man´s food
and about the new and old labels.. Well, I agree, most of the established labels are the one that play the ´safe´ zone, releasing very typical music, never breaking genres, never going too far out.. So its a good thing for listeners if new labels with their own weird ideas come, because at least that gets out of the normal, of the formulas...
now whether they can survive and continue, I dont know, but for sure I value more their work than formula labels
btw, about compilations: At least in ambient, there are many very good ones.. take most LSD compilations for example, or dakini... |
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EYB
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 08:02
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Yuli what a bullshit, everyone can be a artists and a musician. Do u live in the past?
Next is not everyone should learn to read and write?
Thats fucking elitism and i thought in our scene we are finished with crap like this? Ok i again see we cannot talk about 'scene', we are just a lot of individuals who like the same music.
But art is not for elite it is for all people, and everone can draw pictures and everyone can make music. Everyone can learn techniques and can do creative art or if he wants to he or she can do some stuff that is already there in his/her own way of expression.
U say on every compilation are 2 or 3 good tracks, yes maybe it is ur taste, it is ok. For me there are compilations with only average tracks and there are compilations full with killers. Tracks u think are boring and crap maybe the killer tracks for me.
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Acidhive
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 11:55
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Hmmm... now why would compilations be so average? Well now, that's a hard one, Gee... let me think: Hey, I got it! Maybe it's because most of the artist just use their music software to copy their last (best selling) track and make an edit of it and then sell it as a "new" song??
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P_Mac
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 12:41
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On 2004-12-22 17:39, Candy wrote:
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On 2004-12-22 17:26, Cosmos Mariner wrote:
to all artists: DON'T STOP MAKING MUSIC
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Hehe... I think this is the problem exactly, that everybody thinks they can make music. Too many wannabe djs / artists that are flooding this scene.
I say pls stop making music and let those who do have talent release their work with dignity.
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bulls eye Candy, i couldnt agree more.
There is so much shite being released that it swamps the mkt, and those trying to make a difference almost dont get noticed though the omni present shite.
Hope it changes . . .
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