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Why is every compilation average??????
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pr0fane
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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 18:27
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On 2004-12-22 18:02, Candy wrote:
So you guys keep on producing talentless copied / paste music, and cry after that why your music doesn't sell and why so much average music is being sold.
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Does the more original music from for instance Finland and Australia sell better than the copy/paste stuff?
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On 2004-12-22 17:39, Candy wrote:
I think this is the problem exactly, that everybody thinks they can make music. Too many wannabe djs / artists that are flooding this scene.
I say pls stop making music and let those who do have talent release their work with dignity.
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I personally found that statement rather ignorant and elitist; Instead the new artists should be encouraged to develop their own sound. And who is expecting every new artist to be the new Simon Posford anyways?
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Zombi
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Posted : Dec 22, 2004 18:29
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profane, let those old-known never-stop bitching co' just do their dirty thing;)
the most funny is that on of them work for label and other make some music;) Believe your soul ! |
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Coomzy
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 07:05
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On 2004-12-22 17:26, Cosmos Mariner wrote:
this thread is absurd. why is every compilation average? i'm not going to teach a lesson on statistics, but you have to understand what average means.
if you get 10 people together, most likely 1 or 2 of them will be very talented, another 4 or so will be decent, and the bottom 1 or 2 will suck. this is how the universe operates, in any area or discipline. remember grades in school? same idea.
what you should hope for is A LOT of music to be put out, just keep putting it out as much as possible. the more music made/released, the more of that 10% GOOD music will be released. yes, that means more 90% bad music, but that's easy: don't listen to it! quit complaining! this is how things improve.
to all artists: DON'T STOP MAKING MUSIC
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Point being??? Not a very constructive post mate...
Things don't improve if you just make more bad music man!!! The problem is there is too much CRAP out there, and a lot of labels have no aspiration to make their compilations stand out from the crowd. I can only think of a few labels who really are pushing the limits and always release quality music.
My point is that the whole industry is very unprofessional, and too much bad music is released for the sole purpose of being able to say "I have released these killah tracks" or whatever other ego crap is said.
Too much bad music. Period. |
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dNETv2
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 09:56
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Fact is, people are making good music, but labels are releasing what people are familiar with cause they know the kids will eat it up. Plenty of people are still creating massive psychedelic tracks... but that's not what people want to hear. They want to hear a dance floor tune that they can roll with on their E every saturday night. The music doesn't matter anymore, the dancefloor does.
The crowd has changed, and the true psyfreaks have grown up and moved on with their lives. Reliving the old days with their massive collection of psy music... When music was worth buying.
Tip for the labels... Put some heart into it.
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 11:28
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I have been collecting tracks on dat from 92 to 98 and boughts hundreds of goa amnbient and trance cds sinc it exists. I know the label the people the dj and so on and I know who make shit and who does not. but since the begginning of this story I have always buy one compilation for 1 or 2 tracks only and the same for the albums. Most of artist group their tracks on album according to the date of creations and will never put 9 killers tracks on the same...mostly 2 or 3 !!
for compilations ait is more a question of money and connections.Of course it is difficult to please everybody tastes but there is approximatly 1/2 years, at least , of frehness between creations and selling, and selling is always about money !!
A lot of label try to do good stuff in the beggining and then just sell on their reputation. others the contrary... sell better compilations all the more they get more money.
in the beggining TIP, dragon fly, blue room, trust in trance, spirit zone and flying rhino were at the top but even there you hardly find 9 bombs on the same cd !!!
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pr0fane
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 14:12
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Kaz
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 16:45
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It's really not a question of the 'good old days' - back at the time, I didn't buy any CD, I was very selective, ESPECIALLY with compilations. There was one major difference though - labels worked a lot more with one another. Hallucinogen, Doof, Green Nuns of the Revolution, The Infinity Project, Astral Projection and Total Eclipse on the same compilation (the specific compilation I'm talking about had the The Infintiy Project track there as a filler. The other tracks were just better) - all with new and previously unreleased tracks. Not one label in the psytrance scene (not even Twisted Records) can boast a roster of artists that impressive anymore.
Especially not small esoteric labels with cokehead DJs that do nothing except feel superior to others, like a few too many that exist nowadays (and you don't really need to look far to find an example)...
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HandA
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 16:53
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On 2004-12-23 14:12, pr0fane wrote:
I think ajna has a point in the last part of his post; a lot of people seem to make “the good old days” better than they where. And this doesn’t only apply to this topic.
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Were you part of the scene in "The good old days"? I was and I agree. The good old days were 1.000.000 better than todays Candy raves. |
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pr0fane
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 17:37
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On 2004-12-23 14:12, pr0fane wrote:
I think ajna has a point in the last part of his post; a lot of people seem to make “the good old days” better than they where. And this doesn’t only apply to this topic.
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Were you part of the scene in "The good old days"? I was and I agree. The good old days were 1.000.000 better than todays Candy raves.
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I am not referring to the parties, as I didn’t go to parties back then - I’m referring to the music released, and I’ve been a listening to psytrance since 96. Don’t get me wrong, I also think that there are a lot of average (and worse) releases today, but people just tend to glorify “the good old days” – and I also personally remember a bunch of bad releases from 95-98.
And kaz, not every compilation back then contained only previously unreleased tracks from the scenes biggest names. Some tracks where re-released again and again and again and again...
You can, as kaz, say that the massive amount of releases today is only a bad thing, but I prefer to be positive and enjoy that you can find much more diversity in the releases now, than you could back then – if you’re into morning/night/day/progressive/tech/fullon/melodic/psychedelic, there’s almost certainly something for your taste on the market today.
But, once again to avoid any misunderstandings; don’t get me wrong, I also think there are many average releases today, which bottom-line is also a matter of taste.
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Kaz
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 17:51
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Notice my careful word selection - I said such compilations existed, not that they were the majority. These don't even exist nowadays. I'm not into morning/night/day/progressive/tech/fullon/melodic/psychedelic at all, I just listen to music, and I'd prefer it if there would be loads of good music in every album - I'd like to hear an album with X-Dream, Koxbox and Hallucinogen, they're 3 of my favorite acts. For filler tracks, I'd like The Infinity Project, Doof, The Antidote, ManMadeMan and Tristan. Don't get me wrong, there are many decent releases today, but at the bottom line, requests like this stopped being filled around late 1996 
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Alienatix
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 19:46
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On 2004-12-23 09:56, dNETv2 wrote:
Fact is, people are making good music, but labels are releasing what people are familiar with cause they know the kids will eat it up. Plenty of people are still creating massive psychedelic tracks... but that's not what people want to hear. They want to hear a dance floor tune that they can roll with on their E every saturday night. The music doesn't matter anymore, the dancefloor does. |
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100% agreed. Sometimes it seems to me, that many ppl lost the taste or something is wrong with them. Eating everything... |
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Zombi
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 20:11
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cant say i find very good compilations very often (it will wrong if its will happen every week, isnt it ?) but im for sure cant say that Prooved2, Tooken to Thrill by Nanobeat, Iboga's compis and some more from last months not very very good!!
dig deeper and free your music !!
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Zombi
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 23:10
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On 2004-12-23 20:11, Zombi wrote:
cant say i find very good compilations very often (it will wrong if its will happen every week, isnt it ?) but im for sure cant say that Prooved2, Tooken to Thrill by Nanobeat, Iboga's compis and some more from last months not very very good!!
dig deeper and free your music !!
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cant say i find very good compilations very often (it will wrong if its will happen every week, isnt it ?) but im for sure cant say that Prooved2, Tooken to Thrill by Nanobeat, Iboga's compis and some more from last months very very good!!
dig deeper and free your music !!
# edited my before last sentence, i ment hey are very very good.
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Redlink
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Posted : Dec 23, 2004 23:11
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Just wait for the next compilation from USTA Records, i asure you that this isn't going to be no ordinary compilation! This one will rock, mates! 
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Gollum
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Posted : Dec 24, 2004 04:18
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Sup everybody!!!!
Well first of all i think that telling a compilations is great, average or bad will depend on the taste of the person who listens...(but thats just me)
Second i think that because labels are selling so few cd`s now a days, they need to throw a little of everything in their comps, this way they can atract more people that hv different tastes.....
Peace
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