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superman
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 02:33
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im amazed about the amount of producers that gets commercial and soft by time !
but y ?
whats the reason ? i mean what make them change the hardcore style??
alot of artists which in my point of view where absolutly incredable and supa creative,gets commercial and boring !!
anybody can explain y ?
most of psylovers notice this and they see its not what it used to be.....but the artists dont see that?
is it gonna stop soon,and get back on track like befor ?
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 02:41
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On 2006-04-04 02:33, superman wrote:
most of psylovers notice this and they see its not what it used to be.....but the artists dont see that?
is it gonna stop soon,and get back on track like befor ?
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I guess not, the music lovers make the "commercial" sound to evolve more instead of the creativity to evolve.
I think its because music becomes their only job, and only commercialism and big sales can let them continue making music and play. Its their proffesion. If your job will be some kind of store, what will you prefer : sell stuff that original and great but very few persons will get it, or sell more "low" stuff that much more people will want to buy it?
The audience make the artists to be more fluffy and commercial
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JaLi
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 03:32
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Why commercial?Because there is a lot of money there..
Simply..
I dont like commercial either but I still can find the sound i like..There is plenty of really good music still!
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JaLi
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 04:55
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On 2006-04-04 03:36, Voxmulox wrote:
...artists make for fun first then fun becomes business and then it all becomes Funny Business with a lot at stake.
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well thankfuly not all the artists...
But yes spot on
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weird anomaly
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 11:25
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because........... were not always 24/7 on acid in a jungle goin nuts are we ?  .. so when ur at home or out enjoying in the real world u need $$$$ .. for better equipment ,better gadgets , to spend on women ,to travel further ,for better clothes , tastier food . etc .. u get the picture .. heh .. so thats probably why they go ``commercial``
in the end were all in it for the green stuff  ... sad ? .. no not really .. but true ? .. 100 % !
just my 2 cents
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weird anomaly
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 11:26
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money rox !!
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greenforestdancers
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 13:46
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well let me jest say that commercial dosent
have to be soft and the same ppl can make
commercial musik and it can me good,
oh and even if you are good you wont be
a millionare my making trance.
ther for i enjoy commercial underground. |
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Acidhive
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 15:07
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There's no such thing as commercialism in this scene actually. I mean, even if some artists are sounding more mainstream, you will never find them in the regular hitcharts. Therefore one can just say artists evolve their styles. Some do this because thet get a better feeling for what they want to conceive musically, others do it (plain and simple) to get more money. The true artist puts the music first and the money second. Anyway, that's my view of things.
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superman
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 16:59
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On 2006-04-04 15:07, Acidhive wrote:
The true artist puts the music first and the money second. Anyway, that's my view of things.
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i totaly agree man ! totaly !
still,too bad its goin this way !
Money -----> then maybe music !
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 17:10
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If an artist changes his style to mainstream, its more likely he/she does it so that the artists music can be liked by more people, which means more sales, more parties and more money.
but there can also be a case where an artist simply evolves into a diffrent style, I would not call that commercial. ... but just some kind of an experimentation, which might or may not work.
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Ben-G
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 17:15
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On 2006-04-04 13:46, greenforestdancers wrote:
ther for i enjoy commercial underground.
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Very weird expression mate... commercial underground...
Commercial music hits the taste of a bigger crowd then underground music, therefor more sales and more money and more people who like you as an artist (even if they're 15 year olds who don't have a clue in electronic music), so its no wonder artists are going in that direction.
The solution will be for an artist to have 2 names, 1 for the commercial music and the 2nd for the music he really wish to creat. But who has time to do both?
My solution- just listening to what i like... |
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Aluxe
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 19:54
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Does the music have to suck to make money?
I guess you have to not confuse making money with making music, because then the music will obviously suck and probably thats the mistake a lot of producers fall into. And I am not saying that real music can not make money. But the moment your inspiration becomes the money then your music is probably going to suck.
And I think some artists have proven that you can have it all.
Pink Floyds "Dark side of the moon" album made record sales, and I think most people agree that by all standards its a great album. And it appeals to such a broad range of people.
I think there is an area where the music is so fucking good that it will appeal to the most underground people as well as the more superficial masses. And that's maybe a good place for the artists to want to get to.
Another thing that might have an impact are the times which we are living in, you know in the 60's artists like Jimi Hendrix were sort of mainstream. But today bubble gum pop like Britney Spears is mainstream. So no wonder why some artsists sound like shit as they strive to get comercial today. In the 60's going comercial was to "tune in, drop out and turn on"
Anyways, just remember that making music is not about making money, however you can make money out of making music. Kinda confusing.
Do what you like and the money will follow?
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Outolintu
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 20:02
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funny question 
you just whine cause you don't grow in the same direction as the artist in question that has now betrayed you by broadening his spectrum. it's not always about the money.
sometimes an artist can just get bored with doing the same thing over and over again.
hats off to the artists who are not afraid to try something different (even if that would be "main stream" music) and evolve!
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superman
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Posted : Apr 4, 2006 20:07
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On 2006-04-04 20:02, Outolintu wrote:
hats off to the artists who are not afraid to try something different (even if that would be "main stream" music) and evolve!
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dude.....something different doesnt have to be good !
and as u can c that this "different" is so bad that this artists will be wiped out soon as the ppl will get bored....!
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