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Who sayd that astrix made the full on morning ?!?!?
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Eliran Maimone
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Posted : Jul 30, 2005 17:11
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He is one of the best in the world and yeh he start this style but i see allot of comment to artist that manking music and working hard on it that
they are making copies of him
any one that make melodies and power copie astrix ?!
its wrong !!!
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Mr.Hanky
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Posted : Jul 30, 2005 17:45
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No matter what everyone says-
Astrix DID create a certain genre,and many people DID and STILL ARE copying it.
There was Fullon before him,there were morning power tunes before him,but he took certain elements from GMS for example and other groups as well,and created a Track Structure that many copycats are following to this day.
That structure was a Big break in the middle of the track - some sample about liquid,space or whatever-and then comes in the big melody,usually filtered - followed by everything that comes back once the kick returns(it was firstly exposed to the world in his monster hit SCIENTIFIC REALITY-and the rest is history).
Its not that this structure was not there before astrix,we even did a break like this already in 1998 in tracks like "bionic Bong",but he developed it and made it into an "official" formula which is so common for years now in fullon,and many artists,including hommega artists(such as Delirious,which one of them is your brother,eliran maimone,if im not mistaken)are following,or at least followd in the begining of their career.
And there was a time when the clone attack was so big - it was ridiculous.They were all Astrix clones,no doubt there!!!Take a kick,a VB bassilne,some drumloops,find a cheesy sample and make a melodic break.very simple and effective...
Nowdays the Clone wars are behind us as it seems, and people start to realize they shouldnt buy clone music anymore.or do they?
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Eliran Maimone
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Posted : Jul 30, 2005 19:31
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sorry but for me he is like others that make there own stlye ...not more then that with all the respect to him and stufff yeh he made his own style but come one !!
lots of ppl say he is the one that creat this style no way !!!!!
im still stick with my opinion
Astrix one of the best in the world !!!!!!!!!!!!
and i play his music but
he is not the one that made this style sorry
any artist that work hard and make melodies and stuff today ppl kills him cause of that
u sould stop that sorry...
point to think about that !!! ppl
yeh he make allots of idias of today's artist i know what u mean yoni...and i agree there is allot of fakes and copies to him but not all
my point is that if u all ppl say that he made this style so whay there is new artist that follow him
sould be just astrix and infected gms and more couple of artist that's all .. no ?!
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Yuli
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Posted : Jul 30, 2005 19:51
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Eliran as one that looks at the full on scene from the side for a while now, I can tell u without any doubt that:
01. Astrix is a 'godfather' of the full on trance as we know it today. It started with his debut track on Israeliens 3 ( with Atomic Pulse I think ) and as Yoni stated he defined the style with his 'Eye to Eye' album and specifically with the Scientific Reality track.
02. Since that happened it is a fact that many ( especially Israeli ) artists tried to copy that formula ( including Delirious btw in my opinion ofcourse ) but as far as I am concerned no one came close to the man that invented it.
03. Lately ppl began to understand that being copycat doesnt help much, so those with real talent try to find new paths and there is interesting stuff again out there in the full on land ( Only today I heard some track from band called Silent Hill, totally interesting and innovating )
I believe that every one has to get what he entitled 2 - Astrix definitely defined and re-defined the full on trance around the globe, and if u want another proof for that, go and see his booking list and see the other 'clone' bands booking list - the difference is quite big I would say
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mubali
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Posted : Jul 31, 2005 02:34
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The funny thing I noticed is that the style that he does especially the big break as Psysex pointed out, was very common in epic melodic trance, Binary Finary, Paul Van Dyk, ATB, BT, etc... The structure of those tracks are almost identical to many ofo the "full on" that is released to date. It's the uniform structure that really made people take notice combined with excellent production quality.
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MoWGLi
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Posted : Jul 31, 2005 12:54
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On 2005-07-30 15:41, MoWGLi wrote:
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On 2005-07-30 11:42, Kitnam wrote:so his style is about getting higher and higher production quality, the style will stay (read the interview) |
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Where can I find the interview?
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Does anybot know where I can find this interview? |
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MooMachine(MOICH)
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Posted: Jul 31, 2005
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full on shit is full on shit...its all the same crap...
samo samo samo....!!!
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Yuli
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Posted : Jul 31, 2005 16:44
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On 2005-07-31 16:23, MOICH wrote:
full on shit is full on shit...its all the same crap...
samo samo samo....!!!
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Very smart and enlightening post not to say open minded and respectfull
Keep it up my man I am sure u will get far with this attitude
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MooMachine(MOICH)
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Posted : Jul 31, 2005 20:30
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its not personal...just my opinion about full on...
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Jul 31, 2005 23:39
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I have to agree with Mr. Hanky and Yuli. Astrix DID it, and that´s it.
After the "Optical Vibes" track and maybe Kali, with singular sounds, Astrix found his formula. Melodic "vb" bassline, filtered melody similar to the bassline, big break with climax sequence, clear and crystal sounds. And the result @ dancefloor... I think u all know it... 
No doubt a lot of artists start using this formula, and as Yuli said maybe today new artists are trying to reach more innovative sounds. Just evolution.
Getting inspiration from Avi and his music is really ok for me. Maybe some artists needs more time to find their own style before releasing so much "dancefloors killers", that has only the break and the melody.
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Borris
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Posted : Aug 1, 2005 02:14
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after some research into full on me and my associate in the research mr Guy Shanti have concluded that Full On trance has 2 patterns being folowed by most full on artists in the years 01-03. those are Astrix and Skazi. most music that was produced back then could be connected (structuraly/rythmically and soundwise) either to Mr. Avi Shmailov (with contributions by Ari Linker and Tamir Ozana) or to Mr. Asher Swissa (with contributions by Assaf Bivas and some of the 3Dvision gang).
if you listen to 96% of the full on you can defenitley say it's an Astrix or a Skazi.
Eliran, can you tell us who in your oppinion made that sound??? Kinetic Honda GmbH, Worldwide Supliers of Quality noise.
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Aug 1, 2005 02:38
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i simply have no idea what are you all talking about
who are those people |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Aug 1, 2005 02:40
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yuli
including Delirious btw in my opinion ofcourse
however there first albom tales from the unknoun
if im not mistaken is very nice one and isnt exclty full on if i remmber |
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DETOX
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Posted : Aug 1, 2005 13:37
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There are people who liked Delirius first album?
Heh...
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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Aug 1, 2005 13:55
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