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Who do you want to see in Boom 2008?

Ellon
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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 15:03
Does someone knows what structures are going to be re-used besides the Chill-Out "Temple"?
          
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ruialves


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Posted : Nov 22, 2007 18:53
for the night:
para halu, tsabeat, megalopsy, kulu, claw, cpc, dissociative, overlap, mubali, procs, phobos azazel, the path, stranger, zik (again please!!!), kindzadza and osom, jellyheadz, paranoize, baphomet engine...

for the day:
kox box, tarsis, the delta, midi miliz, synchro, hara gobi, joerg shiva, x-dream, tim schuldt, melicia, analog pussy, dj anti, texas faggott, jaia, tristan, eat static, box of frogs, vibrasphere...
Kusnec


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Posted : Nov 23, 2007 21:30
parasense
parahalu
psykovsky
penta
KinDzaDza
Furious
ocelot
dissociactive
illegal machines
psymetrix
Electric Mirror
Flip Flop
x-dream
the delta
midi miliz
FUZZION
Rastaliens
Logic Bomb
Loopus in Fabula
texas faggott
squaremeat
Flying Scorpion
kainoa


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Posted : Nov 26, 2007 20:14
Mr.Peculiar
Simian
Simian
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Posted : Nov 27, 2007 10:29
I would say:
Grapes of Wrath, Syntax Error,
Osom, Psykovsky, Kindzadza, Cpc, Deja vu Project, Parasense, Furious, Fearkiller, Penta,
Zik/Horror Place, Polyphonia, Maniax, Megalopsy, Krpytum, Silent Horror, Baphomet Engine, Hefty Output, Cymazz, Claw, Paranoize, Dejan, Jellyheadz, Datakult, Orestis,
Atriohm, Encephalopaticys, Phobos Azazel,
Derango, Troglodytes, Hallucinogenic horses, Procs
Ocelot, Mubali, Yab Yum, Alien Mental, Bodhissatva 13:20, Greg on Earth
Gappeq, Xenomorph!
This would be enough for the night and early morning, for the day just pick some nice progressive live acts and djs to have people chilling a bit!:)           Simian [En Sof / Illuminati Records]
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uvego
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Posted : Nov 27, 2007 10:57
wana see XP to play           _____________________
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Simian
Simian
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Posted : Nov 27, 2007 10:59
Oh ...and just, one small reflection, still about the electro stuff... i'm sorry but i still think that electro is really far from the psychedelic culture. Psychedelic has to be at first immersive for the mind, and in second misterious. I dont find any of those in electro, in fact, electro, especially minimal is just the beat and clubby melodies , mainly music to fill the body's needs, and when you say that some people that were going to psy events some years ago are now going to electro events, that's true and i know many cases for myself, but that doesnt create a connection between electro and psychedelic. In my opinion that "exodus" has more to do with the fact that those guys and girls got tired of the psychedelic parties, or the kids in the parties or whatsoever and they started splitting from the scene, seeking generally lighter or calmer music, associated to a fashion feeling more than the mistery stuff.So the point is i really hope they keep that kind of sound and vibe away from Boom Festival which should be one place for reflexion and not for filling body and ego's needs. It's not that i have something against the music or the electro scene but there are already many national/international festivals wearing that dress, i just hope Boom doesnt become one more of those. And one more thing, i still think that some stuff that generally fit in the concept of "dark" trance (which is a concept i dont like) can be very psychedelic. Any doubt ? Listen to any CPC album.
          Simian [En Sof / Illuminati Records]
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salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Nov 27, 2007 18:10
i think dusty kid's music is totally immersive for the mind! and there are different kinds of electro (like in trance), some is not psychedelic at all, of course.. i don't know, i get the feeling that most people who speak against electro haven't really heard all kinds of it (and i'm not refering to any of the people here)           When I dance, I put myself in the DJ's hands to take me to a journey - the unconscious journey to reality

KARKEIJA KREW!!!!!!!! dancing is the phrr fo da powa
Ketelf
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 00:37
Quote:

On 2007-11-27 10:59, Simian wrote:
Oh ...and just, one small reflection, still about the electro stuff... i'm sorry but i still think that electro is really far from the psychedelic culture. Psychedelic has to be at first immersive for the mind, and in second misterious. I dont find any of those in electro, in fact, electro, especially minimal is just the beat and clubby melodies , mainly music to fill the body's needs, and when you say that some people that were going to psy events some years ago are now going to electro events, that's true and i know many cases for myself, but that doesnt create a connection between electro and psychedelic. In my opinion that "exodus" has more to do with the fact that those guys and girls got tired of the psychedelic parties, or the kids in the parties or whatsoever and they started splitting from the scene, seeking generally lighter or calmer music, associated to a fashion feeling more than the mistery stuff.So the point is i really hope they keep that kind of sound and vibe away from Boom Festival which should be one place for reflexion and not for filling body and ego's needs. It's not that i have something against the music or the electro scene but there are already many national/international festivals wearing that dress, i just hope Boom doesnt become one more of those. And one more thing, i still think that some stuff that generally fit in the concept of "dark" trance (which is a concept i dont like) can be very psychedelic. Any doubt ? Listen to any CPC album.





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Spasm


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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 01:52
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Psychedelic has to be at first immersive for the mind, and in second misterious. I dont find any of those in electro



You don’t find it. But its there.
You just need to take a closer look.
It's your problem that you don’t find it, not mine, and i couldn't care less if you cant see that.
You know why? Because D-nox, Pena, Emok, Peter Digital, Monro, has been playing for more then 6 year now, in most major trance events, are between the most respected, and requested artists, and many others
but you... fail to see that, and think that there is no connection, and plus ...
it should never be allowed to play in boom festival, ... that's what i call tolerance, and respect.

bravo

Flow, Iboga, Digital Structures, Tribal Vision, Plusquam, Blue Room, Baroque has been releasing top fresh, electro trance tunes for ages, played in most trance events, and you dont see it.. pff

you dont see it, but it doesn’t mean its no there..
You just need to open your mind, and realize there is a whole new world out there.

The ironic part is that i always hear at some point music of my taste, in boom festival so cheers for that...



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associated to a fashion feeling, ... filling body and ego's needs.



what?
Fashion? Ego?

Pff, you just showed how little you know.
You have no clue of what you’re talking about,
you don’t go to progressive/electro events, but you still come here with that stereotype nonsense.
So you don’t think there is fashion and ego in psy?
You MUST be joking dude


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beat and clubby melodies



for a producer you just showed that you know nothing about music production men
pff

beat and clubby melodies…. , yeah right
salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 01:59
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On 2007-11-28 01:52, Spasm wrote:

So you don’t think there is fashion and ego in psy?
You MUST be joking dude




that's so true           When I dance, I put myself in the DJ's hands to take me to a journey - the unconscious journey to reality

KARKEIJA KREW!!!!!!!! dancing is the phrr fo da powa
Simian
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 02:18
"You know why? Because D-nox, Pena, Emok, Peter Digital, Monro, has been playing for more then 6 year now, in most major trance events, are between the most respected, and requested artists, and many others "
I liked the words you used but for me Major trance events is diferent from Psychedelic Trance events. Yes i think there is alot of fashion and ego in whatever movement, but in psytrance, that influence came from other styles, not the original psy/goa. And the again the point is that I just think that Boom Festival might actually be the last resort of psytrance like it was supposed to be in the beginng, why not keep it like that following the original idea, and sticking to the original roots. Here in Portugal not long ago you had a Festival called Freedom Festival, you had plenty of electro/electro influenced music there, so people cant complain. And still...Progressive trance is different from electro. It's not the same thing though many djs play both genres.           Simian [En Sof / Illuminati Records]
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Spasm


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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 02:50
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I just think that Boom Festival might actually be the last resort of psytrance like it was supposed to be in the beginng,



O, so now the rest of the worlds festivals lost their spirit also, only boom festival,

- the last psytrance festival in the world -

One question?
Who the hell let D-nox, monroe, Pena , Emok and atmos touch the mixer.... that's a tough one.



Boom festival the last one? Why not only your friends, and to narrow it down even more, i'm thinking only you and you alone didn't lose his "original roots" somewhere in 1997

Good for you, however, its 2007 and you're not alone, there are thousands others out there, everyone diferent from each other with their personal and individual tastes.

Does that come as a surprise?

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Progressive trance is different from electro



you seem to know about this stuff, can you please explain where the line between progressive trance and electro, cause i don't seem to find it anymore, for a couple of years now.

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, why not keep it like that following the original idea



that's what i'm saying, festivals are a comercial business, not PLUR, lets all go to goa and do a party under a coconut tree, that's the TRUE spirit... , ok?
that's the real thing , you have to admit ...

o and another thing, people didn´t leave psy events for any of the reasons that you mentioned, beacause i see them in other parties, ok maybe some of them... but for most it was the music and only the music that started to suck really hard, for most of those people, and i speak basically for myself and most of the people i go to events with
Simian
Simian
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 05:24
Hey man i think you'r taking me wrong. If you checked my post up there : "This would be enough for the night and early morning, for the day just pick some nice progressive live acts and djs to have people chilling a bit!:)". I am not currently listening to any music dated from 1997, nor did i say that boom festival should be playing that music.
I also didnt say anything about festivals loosing their spirit, i go to other music festivals too. For me spirit is good as long as people are having good fun. But i think that boom is a thematic festival, in this case a psytrance and psychedelic culture festival.
I have nothing against progressive djs or live acts, in fact i think progressive trance should be part of every trance event. This new electro vibe is relatively recent and it differs from psytrance in many ways including a very sharp bpm difference and that one is enough! When going let's say from 148 to 130/135 it's alot of difference but when you go to 129 and 128 that's even more, and still when i say electro, i'm not referring to stuff like those you listed in there, for me those are progressive trance acts with some electro influences, i just think that minimal electro artists without any psytrance roots and some more commercial stuff differ so much in sound construction that they seem out of context in a thematic psytrance festival...
And you still do have other festivals that appeared with the sound evolution that bring this "clubby" sounds and other artists more related to that genre inside the psytrance scene, so you cant complain about that. But in the other side there are not many festivals with the characteristics the last Boom Festival had.           Simian [En Sof / Illuminati Records]
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Spasm


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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 05:53
The diversity is what takes me there as i said before.

About bpm, you can now imagine how i feel listening to music at 180 bpm.
Psychedelic? I personally dont think so, no.
But you dont see me here saying that its should not be played?
Someone might think i'm some kind of a music nazi.

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for me those are progressive trance acts with some electro influences



Maybe for you,

Antix personal page

http://www.myspace.com/antixfiord

style : progressive house/techno/electronica

Played at boom 2002.

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Iboga personal page:

http://www.myspace.com/ibogarecords

style: techno

played at boom 2004

These are classifications of the artists and labels themselves.
Classifiying music is subjective dont you recon?

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seem out of context in a thematic psytrance festival...



says who?

If you dont like what its on, do what i do when i listem to fast music, go for a walk, have something to eat, have a swim in a lake.
I have to take almost all the festival with fast music, but i dont say it should not be played.
and if they will provide a alternative area, what's your problem with that, just dont go there...
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