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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Jul 16, 2004 15:20
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On 2004-07-16 14:33, Innersense wrote:
why go that far? when in the first place you shouldnt push the limits? 
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We push the limits?By wich means my friend? |
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Alex Candy
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Posted : Jul 16, 2004 15:32
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Hi Tim,
well.....how did we get to this point where "girls should call security" ??...!!...
I remember a few years back when people were really mad to see security people in parties and this drove many nice people...slowly slowly the security guys became a standard part in all of the parties....
what is the next thing after "security people"? ...call the police?.....NO WAY!
I totally agree with KissMyBass.... |
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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Jul 16, 2004 15:48
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Hi alex 
A few years ago acid club was busted cause there was no security at all.
The effects of this bust are still runing over our heads...
And because not the ppl, but some smart guys
"get mad" with security,well they better starting realise that security is established at eternal motion parties.
Just because we don't want the police to think,that we can not deal with problems that,you,we,everybody knows...
Nice talking to you.
Eternal motion team (not Tim) |
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Kissmybass
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Posted : Jul 16, 2004 17:57
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Well...To all the people of eternal motion..
When i wrote what you saw i realy wanted to help you think a little bit further but as i see you took it personally!
Don't forget that you are not the only team of the city who organizes party's except the last 3-4 months..
So i was not talking only about YOUR parties,is that clear?
I hope it is..
Yes indeed there are some girls..You can hardly find a 100 in a crowd of 600-800 people but is this a percentage?
I don't know the clubs that junkies go but i will tell you this:
The early ACID Psychedelic days we where very proud and happy of our scene and the reason was that it was represented of the most special underground people of this city!!
Travellers,clubbers who where not satisfied from the commercial house music,intelligent and educated people who where searching for something different,people who where involved with Electronic Music,People who where involved with the Eastern culture and buddism,and only just a few who where after drugs....
No junkies,no Kangoures no Laikous....
Actualy we where laughing at them...
Well that time girls where more than today even the scene was smaller..
Unfortunately when the new generation of promoters took the situation in their hands they destroyed everything just to make more money...So they let all the species i mentioned above in!!Just because they where another 5000 dr. for their pockets and they needed them for their mega events..Don't take me wrong...
Look around you now..and you might agree with me though is not needed...
I just Realy Care!!
Got 2 go now!!
Good Luck with your event:husb:
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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Jul 16, 2004 18:26
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Thankfully we are not the only organisers
And we just mentioned about our parties,(you can read more carefully) we can not talk and we realy don't care about other organisers.(they can make parties with no security,and with visuals and deco,it is obvius that you never bother passing from neraida this year,no deco? xa) But to many "kangures" for you right?
Well we can not make parties for "privilleged" ppl my friend.We consider all the ppl welcome at our events.Ofcourse we will not define who is intelectual or not.
Furthermore we will try to have control at our events,protecting as much as we can,ALL THE PPL.
And what we see around us ,are happy smiling faces.Sorry if this bothers you,we wish you "best of ppl" and music at your events. |
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Kissmybass
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Posted : Jul 16, 2004 21:53
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I guess it's gone too far..You are loosing the point...My english is above average and my Greek too so i understand very well what i'm reading!
So these are my last words and i will say no more whatever you might say after.....
-If you wish to continue this discussion as you know we will meet very soon so,i'm open!
ok?
-Check the topic once again carefully...it says: where have the women gone?It doesn't says..why women are not coming at eternal motion parties?
I wouldn't answer at all coz it's YOUR parties so it sould be your problem ok?
-As you say,you mentioned only your parties but i didn't...it's a general discussion..
That's why i mentioned no deco and visuals..and for sure i wasn't talking about you..But someday you will realise that the world is not spinning around your selves my friends
-People that can really harm these parties souldn't be very welcome,if you really know what i mean..Some of the results is what we are talking about right now..No women,Security guards,Fear of the police syndrom,fights,etc..
-If you were making parties for "privilleged" people as you say you could save some of the money you are spending for security but security is needed at a heavy metal concert for sure..
-A smiling face with no teeth because of drugs is not very nice
-this is not only my personal opinion but the opinion of many real trancers of the older days who still have the spirit inside...... believe it or not!!
-Finally you have no idea what bothers me but i know what bothers you
See u around  |
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Kissmybass
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Posted : Jul 16, 2004 22:55
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P.S You are allways more than welcome at my events as i were at yours ...
Though the music is not so good for your taste....
Cheers to Alex Candy
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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Jul 17, 2004 01:32
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Anyway...The ppl that you are mentioning that
they should not be very welcome at parties,is ,for us allways,a very general matter that will take hours,even days of discusion.
So we can conclude that the organisers of each team have their own plan of how to deal with the ppl and the events.
This is a proper way of how a music scene
should go on,by offering alternatives to all the ppl.
Now about smiling ppl with no teeth  i think that you are a bit way off.If you think that you can insult ppl like this by placing them in a sub-human level,then fine.
If you think that you can define human nature according to music tastes,then fine again.
We,in our organisation have plenty of tastes,and we will share them with EVERYBODY.
The story of "bad promoters"after acid club,is also a very big matter...We think that has nothing to do with no girls show up at parties.The amount of girls was then and
now the same.
The drug problem was even bigger than now,and that was finaly the disaster of the
"beautiful" 1997 scene.
Real trancers?Is there any one who can put a limit in trance?Real trance,fake trance,metal trance,house trance,vocal trance etc etc etc
We will go for all kinds of trance.And we will have security either we have skazi,or frogacult.It is not about the kind of ppl,it is about RESPECT (to eachother,to girls,to the ppl,to the events)We can not leave such serious matters go with the wind
And big,even bigger,HUGE if you prefer events,is our will.
It hurts that the girls are not showing up,but,my friend we can't do anything more about it.What we mean is that they have to realise that this kind of music,was,is,and will be for "different"ppl.It is a matter of social development.Boys are more free and comfortable with this rave madness.The greek society has to reevaluate and give to women the same rights as for men.
We have to let them let the "beast out of them" without considering that they are hores.Then,we believe,that they will follow parties,as many other "forbiten"acts.
It is a matter of social development in the greek society.
And believe me we don't think that the world is spining around us
We are spining around RAVES.And as you said the last four months eternal motion is making parties alone.That's why we felt uncomfortable,when you said about no deco,dark rooms etc.
Take care.Have a nice weekend,and go on for raves also.Any alternatives are always a challenge,in many ways,for everybody,and hopefully a good result will come out,after good eforts.
Peace |
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psypunk
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Posted : Jul 18, 2004 18:36
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Well I show some very nice babes yesterday, Max dj set@ Aloni. |
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leequid
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Posted : Jul 20, 2004 04:47
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On 2004-07-15 16:37, absolutzero wrote:
so thats why there are no girls in salonikas party,
thanasonic take them away with a taxi,
lol
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Well I believe that this is a REALLY good explanation (at least for Thessaloniki) in this topic  LOL |
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Jul 20, 2004 09:03
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TRIPPYBOY
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Posted : Jul 20, 2004 23:34
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hi guys
i have been studding working in uk from 1996 till 2002, and i have been in so many parties all over uk. i moved back to greece this summer and i have been to about 5 parties 3 of which got busted by police and in two of them everyone was striped to be check for drugs. i feel so disapointed by the greek psytrance movement. the feeling i get in parties in greece is screary to tell you the true. in uk almost about 50% of the people in psytrance parties are girls and it is amazing the feeling you get. but also parties are better organized, with cool deco and chill-out stages in all of them and most important no police shit. how do you expect for a girl to come to a party if the half of the people in it do not have anything to do with the psytrance culture and are argressive malakas.
i am so sorry to say this since i love my country and my music and i want the best it. we have to change the mentality of some people for sure. trust me girls like this music they just dont like the rest of the shit that comes with it.
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SofiaX
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Posted : Jul 25, 2004 00:04
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Bravo Dimitra!!!!
I agree with u 100%
Also me i like really night stuff,,,,in athens no possible like this and i dont know why...i think many girls love hallucinogen stuff...
Anyway i respect the music but organiser people doit something for us also
Boom
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SofiaX
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Posted : Jul 25, 2004 00:08
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I cant go anymore in partys,,,
U can easy account the girls
Boom Dimitra!! |
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TRIPPYBOY
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Posted : Jul 25, 2004 18:01
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hi sofia
so what you say, is that in order to have girls in a party we must have also Simon DJing.
mmmm
thanks but no thanks, not my cup of tea.
 Why flowers attract bees? |
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for sure