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What's with all the accidents?
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DJ Buju
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 21:33
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On 2005-06-08 20:19, Psycosmo wrote:
No its not fuckin off topic. Efforts to keep trance people alive are not off the topic of trance.
Think about it:
Accident happens ----> Awareness about accidents is raised -----> people try to be more careful -----> More trance people live -------> the trance scene is happier
Does this logic not make sense?
And with all due respect this is nothing like bitching about the weather. Weather is a temporary inconvenience. Death is permenant. See the difference Buju?
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No need to answer back in an aggressive way mate.
My point is that reclues driving, accidents,etc are a part of our life. Like the weather is as well.
This is not about saving trance people lives or not.
Car accicdents like other things happen to everyone and not just to TRANCE people. so this issue is a world issue and if some of these posts where posted @ the thread where we all have been informed of our dear friend Ani (R.I.P) accident, saying please people drive more carefully and things like that then it would make sence. ( imho)
Opening a thread about every thing that happenes in life that we aren't happy with or think we can correct seems like an offtopic to me.
Now please don't Bark cause thats what dogs do and not people with common sence.
Peace
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Skunk
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 22:30
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I saw late this treath, after I open a new one for dj Ani...
Hope you won't mind...
RIP
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EYB
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 23:07
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Today at work, i was going along the street and i heard something crash but i thought a truck drove to fast over something u know this sound, but then it was a guy with his motorbike and he fell and was dead, he lost almost the wole head, i haven't seen it but later the street was full of blood.
Bad thing. But this is life, everywhere alltime it can happen to everyone.
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Liquid-Vision
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 23:52
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shit happens, being too careful can lead to a very very boring life, and/or a very ironic death
OT:how can a whole topic be off-topic?
We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home. |
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Liquid-Vision
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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 23:53
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On 2005-06-08 20:19, Psycosmo wrote:
Death is permenant.
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I can think of a number of major world religions which would disagree with you on that one.
We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home. |
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 00:10
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Death is a logical thing. You live. You die. That's the cycle of life. Some die sooner than others, some die in freak accidents, some die of disease, some die drug related, but in the end, we all die eventually. Accept it.
"Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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DJ Buju
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 00:18
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magevet
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 01:01
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wtf? it seems some of u r saying something along the lines of: gee, if we ride in a car back from a party and we're all drunk and stoned and tripping and tired and then we have an accident and die then there was nothing that could have been done. that's life.
helloooo!
this thread is esp. relevant to this scene because we drive off to far away places, often 2-3 hours away, party all night long till late morning, take drugs, and then have to drive all the way back home. not to mention when our parties get busted right at the peak of everyone's drug taking and totally hallucinating ppl r sent out to drive on the streets.
these problems r special to our scene and u know it. (driving back from a club a short distance after partying only for a few hours is quite different.)
anyways, buju, it might not be fun to think about needing to be careful and to party responsibly but i think it's an important thing to bring up, because if this thread makes even just one person behave more responsibly then it might possibly save some lives...
so ppl,
drive responsibly - leave the "cool" at the party and always use seatbelts
and take drugs responsibly - http://www.erowid.org
(and try not to fall off high places)
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DJ Buju
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 01:18
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On 2005-06-09 01:01, magevet wrote:
wtf? it seems some of u r saying something along the lines of: gee, if we ride in a car back from a party and we're all drunk and stoned and tripping and tired and then we have an accident and die then there was nothing that could have been done. that's life.
helloooo!
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Not really, what I'm saying is that people who drink shouldn't drive, if you tripping your tits out then don't drive and if you did do all the logical things any person would do and still had a car accident then yeah thats life and there is nothing you can do about it.
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this thread is esp. relevant to this scene because we drive off to far away places, often 2-3 hours away, party all night long till late morning, take drugs, and then have to drive all the way back home. not to mention when our parties get busted right at the peak of everyone's drug taking and totally hallucinating ppl r sent out to drive on the streets.
these problems r special to our scene and u know it. (driving back from a club a short distance after partying only for a few hours is quite different.)
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I myself been to many parties where I needed to drive for a long time to & back, took loads of drugs (back in the day) and yes sometime we wouldn't think about it and drive back home even when we were @ the pick of our trip or really drunk. THAT WAS A STUPIED THING TO DO and as you grow up or get smarter I hope most people realize that and are more carefull.
You could live the club/outdoor party and get stabbed under your house as you are about to get home even after you've been the most careful and logical person.
Could you prevent it ? NO thats life and I wouldn't go and open a thread about how come people get stabbed so much and what you should about it...
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anyways, buju, it might not be fun to think about needing to be careful and to party responsibly but i think it's an important thing to bring up, because if this thread makes even just one person behave more responsibly then it might possibly save some lives...
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I agree & disagree - Yes it's important and people should be more aware and carefull but my very SIMPLE point was that their are many other things in life that we can talk about again & again and one might say it could prevent someone dying but you wouldn't go an open a thread about every subject cause it makes no sence imo.
The reason I said it was offtopic was that people open a thread releating to others death and try to find a connection within them but if you think about it there is none what so ever.
I respect and totally think what you say is noval and caring but i feel that it is not releated to this forum/section.
Once again it is IMHO 
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so ppl,
drive responsibly - leave the "cool" at the party and always use seatbelts
and take drugs responsibly - http://www.erowid.org
(and try not to fall off high places)
peace and safety
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jou*
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 02:09
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Carlos "Chaq" from the mexican act Sharigrama also died in an accident last year... RIP
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a3k
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 14:35
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didn´t he commited suicide in brasil?that wasn´t what i read here in isratrance...but hey i can b wrong..anyone can confirm thix?
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Dainty Doll
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 17:25
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 20:36
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No it doesnt make it more of a tragedy. Part of the reason I posted this is because some of my friends have been in/died in serious accidents. I however post about them because nobody here knows who they are. When it happens to a DJ/producer however an opprotunity arises to have a discussion about the issue of accidents and how to prevent them. Sure accidents are part of life but that doesnt mean there are no precautions that can be taken.
For example could work to make wild driving less socially acceptable. I was in a car with my friend the other day and he was driving like a maniac and I tried to get thru to him that the thrill of accelartating around a sharp turn just isnt worth the risk of going flying off the road into the wall. I doubt he'll change his ways but at least I said something.
This topic isnt about celeberty or about complaining about the uncontrollable, its about trying to learn from the past.
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Licio2
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Posted : Jun 9, 2005 23:08
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I think that this is an useful thread and NOT off-topic.
I have learned from my mistakes, and if I'm still alive and writing on this forum it's because I've been lucky even if I've been a TOTAL IDIOT in the past on the road, driving back from a party....
Now I'm more responsable, more careful (which does not prevent an accident to happen), but I hope that this thread will make people think twice before start driving in the wrong phisical condition.
Be careful my friends!
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daniel duarte
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Posted : Jun 10, 2005 03:57
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On 2005-06-08 23:53, Liquid-Vision wrote:
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On 2005-06-08 20:19, Psycosmo wrote:
Death is permenant.
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I can think of a number of major world religions which would disagree with you on that one.
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Sorry for going on another way.. but... I think that for all this years, if those religions had not teached their people to believe in life after death, then there would be no point for not comiting sins and etc... Stuff that people took really serious some years ago, (and still do now I guess) Like the chance of going to heaven or hell..
Just think about it.. If it wasnt for that *mind input* then life would have a totally diferent meaning.
People would live it 10 times better and enjoy all their time as much as they could.. I mean, if there's no life or other pseudo form of conscience after death, then we better enjoy our life while we can... |
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