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What´s going on with the party people in México?
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mita_sabina
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Posted : Feb 6, 2007 20:16
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I was wondering, since the last 3 parties i´ve seen so few people, whats going on?
What do we all need to be happy and party in peace?
I think we have had some nice parties lately and great line ups too. But if we want to have secure and nice parties we must attend to them.
Its very sad to see much effort and people just not going 
Just a simple thought
  *Mita*
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Serag
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 01:16
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psytrance is dead. |
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MॐZC4L1†0
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 02:08
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On 2007-02-07 01:16, Serag wrote:
psytrance is dead.
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 very baphomet engine dude
well mita i can tell u, i imagine that the partys u r attending r progressive parties and this aint fashion right now, i believe that if u attend 2 a party where the line up is bizarre contact or skazi, gms, im u know cheesy commercial stuff, u will have like 4000 people dancing around and moneando... Either that or the scene's popularity its coming down and the saiko fever is passing and soon things hopefully will be back 2 normality 
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deliria mara
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 04:03
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Ay Mita! I wish I know.
Maybe soon, the people is going to realize that if they dont support the parties that they love, they will start to dissapear. Almost every organizer I know is losing their money. At the end is very rewarding to have a great party, and that's one of the main reasons to make one, but sadly that is not enough.
Anyway I wish the best luck to any good organization making parties here in our country, I hope all your effort and hard work is gonna be recognized in every way soon!!!!
Love from Deliria family.
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Janue
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Posted : Feb 7, 2007 11:02
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Maybe some people are starting to do other things in their lives, who knows? 
If u are Something, Dont ask for nothing
If u are Nothing, Dont ask for something |
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vision dream
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 01:44
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i wondering the same taht you asked before but, seems to be no answer because the people act like they rather do it!..here in Guadalajara happens,too. some thing really doesnt be good!... just keep relax and see how the other people get self distroction!.. acaso estoy mal mita??? |
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Substance/Atari.1
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 06:57
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i think its easier than all the already written except for janue.
just before ppl started not going to parties... parties that used to get 1000 and up ppl lacked of something...
from artists... to decoration or something already announced so its natural to see that ppl are not going because of the trust they used to had isnt there anymore... they just got tired of being ripped off.
lately ive seen promoters changed their mind and became
real and responsable (not all but most of em).
anyway... good work will attract good results like anything else in the world but it will take some time before the scene recovers. luckly its not because the "cheesy commercial" genre or the "ultra psychedelic brain melting" dark music (neither groovie progry music) as its actually rising and more ppl its getting attracted to any of this...
on  ... whats going down its ppl supporting where the music comes from (Cds, labels etc)
my personal thought.
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Alternative control
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Posted : Mar 6, 2007 11:44
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On 2007-03-06 06:57, Substance/Atari.1 wrote:
i think its easier than all the already written except for janue.
just before ppl started not going to parties... parties that used to get 1000 and up ppl lacked of something...
from artists... to decoration or something already announced so its natural to see that ppl are not going because of the trust they used to had isnt there anymore... they just got tired of being ripped off.
lately ive seen promoters changed their mind and became
real and responsable (not all but most of em).
anyway... good work will attract good results like anything else in the world but it will take some time before the scene recovers. luckly its not because the "cheesy commercial" genre or the "ultra psychedelic brain melting" dark music (neither groovie progry music) as its actually rising and more ppl its getting attracted to any of this...
on ... whats going down its ppl supporting where the music comes from (Cds, labels etc)
my personal thought.
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Hey cabron , agree with you about the music thing....i am sorry to say , but everyone are now downloading , and to be even more honoust in Mexico , its really bad bad case....
I know from experience , that labels ,even the big once , in Mexico .sales arround 5-10 cds maximum .....depends ofcourse from a release to release...but thats the numbers..
About the parties ,my oppinion as the one who is coming to visit Mexico all the time...
That ppl has started to split them self , in 3 crews...darkers undergrounds , cheesy happy commercial , and electro proggy , from my point of view all the line ups i saw lately on the flyers in Mexico ..were not mixed up witht the music , but the main acts were strictly from one of these 3 genres of trance..meens or it was total dark or it was total progggy .. or just cheesy full on
My oppinion ppl should mix when they make party , like in any festival in Europe ...
Dark night to be at night , full on and cheesy stuff untill 10am , 11 am maximum , and then till the end of the day proggy ...with nice deco , good place ( nature ) + tha main thing SOUND SYSTEM , i am sure ppls number would have arrise..not go down for sure...
I am not saying this would solve the problem , but would help organisers for sure..
+ the old story about 3 or 4 organisations joining into one project ( party ) , for making something bigger and more serious , more professional ..... in most of the countries , this fact worked perfectly.
But problem with ppl has EVERY country , maybe just not Brasil hehehe , they have more then enough .....
see ya ,boom
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*shove*
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Posted : Mar 7, 2007 01:22
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Hey Mita ... i think this is normal... after all the bad experiencies that all of us had in the last 2 or 3 years... the scene needs to back to the roots... to their origins.. small parties, with people that really likes to go the party.. people interest to make parties because of the music.. and to make this interaction between the people, the ambient and the music... Also i think is a good oportunity to support our own artist and give a force to our own scene... its not so necessary to have hug line ups... if we can have small ones.. with a party of nice quality... its the time to back to the roots...and start again with an already grown scene and clean:)
So... everyone needs to make part of it.. if we want to recover our old good times...
PEACE, LOVE, UNITY, RESPECT, MUSIC, ART AND HAPPINESS ..and of course.. a good dosis of psychedellic music...  |
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Xikwri-Neyrra
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Posted : Mar 7, 2007 05:57
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i think.. nobody is talking about psychedellia,... nobody is talkin about the art and the expression... the problem is.. every body thinks the raves are a disco in the forest... but isnt... everybody goes there and put themselfs full of drugs and then is when the problem starts,,.. when the ppl withouth responsability start to put in strange ways to act.. i think the plur is over.. thesese scene is pure egocentrist and a battle of styles.. and a battle of DJ's and everyone wants to be the best... but i tell u one guys.... these is not a race or a competition... these is art.. and is a way of expression... u just need the perfect place.. the perfect ppl.. and the perfect music to the place and the mood of everything and u will have a nice party.... not just coming to see sesto sento and dance eating extacy... but... where is the learning... where is the magic??? its just the point of view from each one.... i just tell u.... psy trance is dying ppl... we have to grow up again from the undergroun.... stay altert.....
respect to the point of view of everyone... but i just see the things since here... i dont judge.. i just tell u what i see on the partyes... have a nice day everyone...!! |
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*shove*
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Posted : Mar 8, 2007 03:01
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On 2007-03-07 05:57, Xikwri-Neyrra wrote:
i think.. nobody is talking about psychedellia,... nobody is talkin about the art and the expression... the problem is.. every body thinks the raves are a disco in the forest... but isnt... everybody goes there and put themselfs full of drugs and then is when the problem starts,,.. when the ppl withouth responsability start to put in strange ways to act.. i think the plur is over.. thesese scene is pure egocentrist and a battle of styles.. and a battle of DJ's and everyone wants to be the best... but i tell u one guys.... these is not a race or a competition... these is art.. and is a way of expression... u just need the perfect place.. the perfect ppl.. and the perfect music to the place and the mood of everything and u will have a nice party.... not just coming to see sesto sento and dance eating extacy... but... where is the learning... where is the magic??? its just the point of view from each one.... i just tell u.... psy trance is dying ppl... we have to grow up again from the undergroun.... stay altert.....
respect to the point of view of everyone... but i just see the things since here... i dont judge.. i just tell u what i see on the partyes... have a nice day everyone...!!
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Nobody is talking about psychedelia and art... if you saw the post that is before you can saw perfectly that i used those words is not for you to get angry if i let you know this.. but you have to read carefully to put an objective opinion .... all of us are on this ... so we need to help us each other... as you said... is really sad.. but psytrance is dying... sometimes is not about the music... and about the "artists" (also im with you on this, its not fair to see the guys dancing.. making nothing at all, im not talking about anyone in particular ).... in Mexico i think the problem right now is the opinion that many people has about PSYTRANCE parties... we need to recover that MAGIC as you said ... to make the people beleive again that the scene can be a good scene again, and its not necesary for them believe... we need to put efford... to make it happen... We need people get interest again to comment.. to participate.. to believe and to dance and enjoy!!!!!!
Nice words Xikwri-Neyrra... RESPECT! ( sorry about all the happy faces... but its just a little bit of optimism) |
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Aluxe
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Posted : Mar 9, 2007 07:36
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Frankly who cares if nobody is interested in going to the parties. It's better to be with a small group of people that are in the right mindset than in a large party where most people are disconnected from each other and could care less about the vibe.
Hey, please take a moment to think what its really all about.
Like why are we so eager to chase fans into our scene? I just don't think we need to be in that position. Hey, if people are not interested in the scene then let them be, yeah let them go their own way. This is not a popularity contest or a fashion show. The real underground was never about trends and what is popular.
Its about the truth. About the genuine psychedelic experience. About the true love for art beyond the glitter and gold. About true connections with nature. About opening new windows of counsciousness to awaken our true naked vibe. Its about freedom and about all that is real and stepping out of the bullshit which our society enslaves with.
And its not about trying to get people to believe in our scene, but about being involved because it's precisely what you believe in. And that should be enough to satisfy your soul and mind, not so much the fact that there are 10,000 people dancing around you.
I also don't think it's about keeping trance or psychedelic trance alive. But rather about keeping the vibe real with your highest more free feelings so when you express yourself through music you can actually call it MUSIC and know by heart its the real deal.
Psychedelic trance is just a name, a tag. Underneath is the music.. and music has no rules and creativity no boundries. And your souls expression no limitations.
So just keep the music a true expression of your deepest most liberated and free self.
And Celebrate!!! Yeah, even if its just 5 people dancing to the desert moon. What matters I think is that we keep it real where the magic, the ufos and the true psychedelic experience takes place.
That is the real scene. And it has no nationality and no boundries. It's like a cosmic experience. |
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Alternative control
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Posted : Mar 10, 2007 18:52
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On 2007-03-09 07:36, Aluxe wrote:
Frankly who cares if nobody is interested in going to the parties. It's better to be with a small group of people that are in the right mindset than in a large party where most people are disconnected from each other and could care less about the vibe.
Hey, please take a moment to think what its really all about.
Like why are we so eager to chase fans into our scene? I just don't think we need to be in that position. Hey, if people are not interested in the scene then let them be, yeah let them go their own way. This is not a popularity contest or a fashion show. The real underground was never about trends and what is popular.
Its about the truth. About the genuine psychedelic experience. About the true love for art beyond the glitter and gold. About true connections with nature. About opening new windows of counsciousness to awaken our true naked vibe. Its about freedom and about all that is real and stepping out of the bullshit which our society enslaves with.
And its not about trying to get people to believe in our scene, but about being involved because it's precisely what you believe in. And that should be enough to satisfy your soul and mind, not so much the fact that there are 10,000 people dancing around you.
I also don't think it's about keeping trance or psychedelic trance alive. But rather about keeping the vibe real with your highest more free feelings so when you express yourself through music you can actually call it MUSIC and know by heart its the real deal.
Psychedelic trance is just a name, a tag. Underneath is the music.. and music has no rules and creativity no boundries. And your souls expression no limitations.
So just keep the music a true expression of your deepest most liberated and free self.
And Celebrate!!! Yeah, even if its just 5 people dancing to the desert moon. What matters I think is that we keep it real where the magic, the ufos and the true psychedelic experience takes place.
That is the real scene. And it has no nationality and no boundries. It's like a cosmic experience.
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Yes dude i agree with you in a certain point , but tell me then ...
Without money , ppl , big organisations , and commercialising the scene , how for example you ..or some of your friends...would be able to hear their famous project lets say live act or dj set doesnt metter , ?
Artists do need money , thats a fact , as every musician , you need to imporoove your music , and not stay on the same level for years , for improving i am affraid in these days , you as an artist need a lot of money , to express yourself on the way you would really like to ,and not just trying to finish another and another track and put it on the internet and become famous...you need to work hard...and not just artist , EVERYONE..
Starting from a just an ordinary fan ,who instead of just spending money on drugs and internet connection downloading the music , he could actually spend some time , buying a favorite cd of his favorite group , as it is happening in any other scene , then for example trying to PAY the ticket for the party , not going just to the parties where he knows organiser ,and who will let him go in for free , then we can move..to an organiser who has...a lot of responsibility ....a lot a lot...lets not getting with details , but you know what i meen ..
And ofcourse there is an artist responsibility , who needs to give his maximum in every aspect ...i am affraid lately everybody become " artists " , " producers " , " djs" not to mention...everyone wants to be something, and unfortunatelly thats what kills us , since less and less we have normal party ppl , but more and more..we have " EXPERTS " who are debating about someones album production ?!?! then talking about this and that without any logical back up ..for what they are saying..
My point is , we all should do our job , whatever you are , dj , producer , just party freak , or organiser....
Do your job and dont stick too much nose to what other ppl do , dont be HATERS , try when you give someone critics , to do it with normal attitude , with normal approach , smile more , and try to make the scene better !!
Otherwise as many ppl already said...the whole this movement is gonna die , and if not die totally ,then turn into something that many of us wouldnt like at all to see ,and make us run away .....
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djnahual
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Posted : Mar 21, 2007 08:38
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Its not a very complicated thing , if you you get a bunch of reach guys that want to do a party but has no clue wwhat so ever about what the they are doing , of course things go wrong , also if you do a Party for a 100 People at the beach and don't bring one single grabeage bag and after the Party the Beach its like hell and every body is lost and the music suks and onand on andon
of course people won't come who want's to go to a Party that you Know is going to be Bad
,,So We need to get the knowldege so that we do Prties at a Profesional level , and Respecting Nature
Just mi opinion
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psylocybe
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Posted : Mar 24, 2007 18:42
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My opinion: The scene is better this days than one year ago, its still a lot of things to do, but the time and the right people will do this. The crowd from 7 years ago is still alive, is aware of how the things are in the scene, and with time they are going to take interest again in assist to the gatherings, just dont quit. The things are improving. |
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