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What is your opinion about the relation between Psytrance scene and Darkpsy idiom?

DETOX
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 17:25
Chillout : Sit in the bathroom and masturbate on your own LOL

This topic got out of hand           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
xrust
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 17:31
hehhe totally agree in both .it is the christian way,the paravoles           Signature:



uforica025
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 18:01

xrust wrote:
i really think that the above links dont have anything to do with satanism.more with stupidity ...
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yap! nice opinion!! So your favorite artists are stupid!!! nice very nice...no more
comments...
uforica025
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 18:03
and btw, cause now i'm expecting some excuses like "this is a marketing thing' etc,
in that case artists have a bigger. responsibility as they except from their labels all this shits for their own vanity.

For me, should be more fair to say ok yes that we are believe and that's it(as many death metal bands does), than stupid excuses about marketing etc...
xrust
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 18:07
uforica sorry my friend but you misunderstood me.how do u came to the conclusion that the artists in those links are my favorite??i said exactly the oposite
i am a prog fan after all
so if you dont mind read again my post           Signature:



uforica025
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 18:14
yap, sorry mate, that i answered to you,
i know witch way u spoke,
nothing personal with u and even with darkpsy followers, i just don't understand the reasons they are refuse some things like their names covers etc.
just it was a catch for me to give an answer to this silly
opinions that all is a matter of marketing
Jedi_knight
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 18:14
Dear uforica025 and detox :
I can't understand why psy trance has to be more related with pop sounds rather than rock sounds.
This is just a matter of music taste and not the definition of psy trance...
In the beginning there was only goa trance.
Now there are many subgenres with different influences (pop-progressive-house-rock-techno-trance-gothic-metal) but all in the same umbrella of psychedelic trance.
Why you think some influences are more psychedelic or spiritual than the others?
The only thing that realy counts is if there is any spirit left in this music...
One more important thing is that the music background of each one who envolves with psychedelic trance for the first time is different so the music taste of sound ,rythm and beat is also different.
Psychedelic has to do with the soul and it's journey or it's adventure or it's substance e.t.c.
I think you forget the soul and the spirit because you notice only the wrapping and not the content...
For me i think that dark psy is closer to the spirit of goa trance than full on wich is closer to uplifting trance of israel...

          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
uforica025
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 18:37
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On 2007-12-12 18:14, Jedi_knight wrote:
Dear uforica025 and detox :
I can't understand why psy trance has to be more related with pop sounds rather than rock sounds.




i was never said things like that,
and off course i believe that stupid remixes of Madona's tracks (and NOT Depeche Mode's ones, that's a different story, as this band hads great history in electronic music) are also made for marketing reasons and they do the same harm in our scene as i believe for darkpsy.

If you see my answer to CHP on the first page, you will see that i believe that is a big relation between psytrance and parts of rock music...

d1m1tr1
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 18:54
yes jedi knight

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DETOX
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 19:08
Jedi i already answered to the same question placed by Dark Elf.

We dont like pop remixes the same as you.

Dont try to explain one extreme by pointing out another extreme

Psychedelic Trance has very little to do with Dark Psy as it also has to do with fluffy full on and those remixes by Madonna that all of you guys already mentioned.

I cant understand why Dark Psy fans always mention israeli full on when they debate with psy trance fans concerning the matter whether dark psy is a sub gendre of psy trance.

Psy trance fans dont like fluffy israeli full on.-

Happy now?           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Jedi_knight
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 19:21
Quote:

On 2007-12-12 18:37, uforica025 wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-12-12 18:14, Jedi_knight wrote:
Dear uforica025 and detox :
I can't understand why psy trance has to be more related with pop sounds rather than rock sounds.




i was never said things like that,
and off course i believe that stupid remixes of Madona's tracks (and NOT Depeche Mode's ones, that's a different story, as this band hads great history in electronic music) are also made for marketing reasons and they do the same harm in our scene as i believe for darkpsy.

If you see my answer to CHP on the first page, you will see that i believe that is a big relation between psytrance and parts of rock music...




I still can't understand why darkpsy harms our scene and full on do not?
They are both different from the old goa trance.
They have both their fans today.
Also many people in our scene like them both...
It is better for the people to be separeted or to be united?
If there was a festival with 4 different stages: one with full on , one with progressive, one with dark psy and one with chill out it would be an ideal party or a disaster?
I would like to see one day something like this and i'm sure that many people would go around from the one stage to the other...
Try to be openminded about the music taste of the others , after all we are talking only about psychedelic trance...
The worst enemy of our scene is ourselves...


          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 19:29
il tell u why Jedi_knight dark harms people more
than full on cose Dark Artists have more black cookies to bring people on there side........

welcome to the dark side u earned ure cookies


d1m1tr1
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 19:35
im opening a bakery then !!! hehehehehe           http://darkelf.gr
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 19:36
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On 2007-12-12 19:08, DETOX wrote:


I cant understand why Dark Psy fans always mention israeli full on when they debate with psy trance fans concerning the matter whether dark psy is a sub gendre of psy trance.






Only because there is no pure psytrance nowadays like the old days and everything related is a subgenre from the original music genre.
For me your music taste is full on(not especialy israeli).
You have to be fair to admit it...
          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
uforica025
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 19:38
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On 2007-12-12 19:35, d1m1tr1 wrote:
im opening a bakery then !!! hehehehehe




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