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What is your opinion about the relation between Psytrance scene and Darkpsy idiom?

PSYTOUR-night oracle recs
Psytour

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 14:19
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On 2007-12-12 13:28, xrust wrote:
i think it is the same relation with

having simple romantic sex and beating the shit out of your woman (while having sex)

some people find it weird or pervert or whatever
some others enjoying it

someothers doing it both(why restricting your self????)





A good example u gave
          *Night Oracle Records
www.night-oracle-records.com

*Vertigo Records/Indigo Recs
*Femina Mandragora/Rhakti Dei
PSYTOUR-night oracle recs
Psytour

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 14:22
DETOX i listen now a dark atmosferic psychedelic track at 144 bpm. am i a satanist??


get over it my friend. styles of music is a personal taste. dont judge anyone!          *Night Oracle Records
www.night-oracle-records.com

*Vertigo Records/Indigo Recs
*Femina Mandragora/Rhakti Dei
AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 15:30
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On 2007-12-12 01:14, DETOX wrote:

And not only the music is different but the way each music promotes itself is different,i mean Dark Psy artists (the majority of them at least) include demons,skulls,satan,evil creatures,black magic signs and more on their album covers and personal websites and often name themselves using names that refer to death (Sipsis for example) or to satan (Baphomet Engine for example) or other elements that are more affiliated with thrash and death metal and gabba and happy hardcore than psy trance.



here some examples
http://212.227.206.198/cgi-bin/zoom.cgi?dvs1cd001_b.jpg:CDs/dvs/dvs1cd001.html:;
http://212.227.206.198/cgi-bin/zoom.cgi?psh1cd003_b.jpg:CDs/psh/psh1cd003.html:; read the title.
http://212.227.206.198/cgi-bin/zoom.cgi?xil1cd001_b.jpg:CDs/xil/xil1cd001.html:;
http://212.227.206.198/cgi-bin/zoom.cgi?moo1cd001_b.jpg:CDs/moo/moo1cd001.html:;
http://212.227.206.198/cgi-bin/zoom.cgi?vio1cd002_b.jpg:CDs/vio/vio1cd002.html:;
http://212.227.206.198/cgi-bin/zoom.cgi?djv1cd007_b.jpg:CDs/djv/djv1cd007.html:;
http://212.227.206.198/cgi-bin/zoom.cgi?ime1cd006_b.jpg:CDs/ime/ime1cd006.html:;

          [b]osobuko/b]
http://www.landmark-recordings.com/absolut_zero.html
http://www.myspace.com/absolutzero_or
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 15:32
i don't mean that everybody is satanist but you slant to that side
No hard feelings..i have many friends that like dark psy music          [b]osobuko/b]
http://www.landmark-recordings.com/absolut_zero.html
http://www.myspace.com/absolutzero_or
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dj-AbsolutZero/147091981997578
xrust
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 15:43
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On 2007-12-12 15:32, AbsolutZero (MoonSun Rec.) wrote:
i don't mean that everybody is satanist but you slant to that side



i really think that the above links dont have anything to do with satanism.more with stupidity ....(but hey,it is just my personal opinion and we are living in a free world,everybody chooses the most suitable way to express himself.now if some ppl choose this kind of pictures and names....

i really dont have any problem with the twisted kind of music,actually i tried to make a track recently in 155(just for the experiment)and i found it weirdly addictive!i really dont understand why ppl want to limit their selfs under the whatever kategories they are picking!open your minds dudes           Signature:



DETOX
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 15:46
Having romantic sex with your partner is actually called MAKING LOVE while beating the shit our of your partner while having sex is part of BDSM for those familliar with the term.They both have to do with sex but they are different,otherwise according to your way of thinking making love with a man/woman is the same as bestiality which is the act of sex between a human and an animal,they are both related to sex but they are very very different you know.

This was a very bad example in my humble opinion.

I think i got a better example that has to do with painting which like music is also an art.

Surrealism and Impressionism are both styles of painting,they both use colours and canvas in order to be created but only a blind wouldnt be able to tell the difference between Monet and Degas works and the works of Dali and Malta.They both share many common simmilarities but the things expressed in one style and most importantly THE WAY things are expressed in one style are way different than the other.

Here are two links from wikipedia for your eyes to enjoy and compare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressionism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealism

A flower or a human figure is expressed differently on Surrealism and differently on Impressionism.

Surrealism and Impressionism are both styles of painting but they are way different with each other dont you think?Also Graffiti is considered as a style of painting just to let you know which is way different than both Surrealism and Impressionism.

Same with psychedelic trance and dark psy,they are both music styles but they are way different with each other,like i said before Dark Psy tried to get involved with psychedelic trance in order to gain more exposure and popularity which worked really well.

This is my personal belief concerning dark psy and noone is obliged to aggree with it ofcourse.

Dear Psytour i also dont believe that any of the guys involved within Dark Psy are into satanism,they just use the skulls and pentalfa symbols as a promotion trick so that the people will pay attention to them.

As about dark atmospheric psychedelic tracks well i am also listening right now Spirralianz-One Way Ltd. which i consider as an amazing dark atmospheric psychedelic track and unfortunately i dont think that any of the music labelled as dark psy has anything to do with this magnificent tune           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 15:48
i think ure confused between dark psy
when u put 1 track 155 bpm doesnt have to be that dark psy is that ,we heard tracks from dino psaras and joti
and kox box that are dark psy ,i think u have the
idea that dark psy is just fast tracks there is good quality dark artists with 145 bpm and realy good atmosferic sounds kox box last album was
catigorised as dark psy , i dont see why if u dont like dark in general u get so offensive against it
some people cant hear sunset melodies all the time
and what forest sounds more psychedlic, and by the way yes dark psy has more devil signes and more gothic culture than full on styles ,but i prefer seening a cd with a skull than with flowers on it heheeh
d1m1tr1
Dark Elf

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 15:52
so now let's hear Depeche Mode remixed in some Israeli way, or Madonna or whatever >>> very connected with goa - trance and spirituality ...

long live to the pop - trance

elaaaaa to caroussellll pame hohohoho



be careful parasites like me are around

chasing demons, u forgot?

hehehe
          http://darkelf.gr
http://www.sonic-loom.com
DETOX
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 16:07
Dimitri noone said that its psychedelic to listen to remixes of Depeche Mode and Madonna ala Israeli way.Actually israeli full on is being accused of not being psy trance even more than dark psy.

Dont use extreme examples in order to prove your points because it doesnt help you at all,quiet the opposite i dare to say.

          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
psyqueen

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 16:12
The Book of Genesis

Chapter 1

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters.


3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
          In trance we trust, defenders of the faith
DETOX
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 16:18
I dont think that God was listening 160bpm music when he was doing all that.

Lets leave God out of this hehe.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
xrust
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 16:26
and besides,darkness doesn exist technically.it is just the absence of light(totally irrelevant,but i remembered it from school,thriskeytiks lesson )
and please psy queen,we are havibng a serius discussin here.if you have something important to say say it,but posting samples doesnt help           Signature:



**HoffMan**


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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 16:38
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On 2007-12-12 16:12, psyqueen wrote:
The Book of Genesis

Chapter 1

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters.


3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.




oo kapse mas!!
man god is a dj but he is playing chill out.           KAPOTE KATHOMOUNA STA AKRIANA BRAXAKIA,THYMAMAI POU
KATOURAGA TA OMORFA PSARAKIA
**paschal**
d1m1tr1
Dark Elf

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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 16:44
right

just i got a little nervous i guess           http://darkelf.gr
http://www.sonic-loom.com
xrust
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 16:55
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On 2007-12-12 15:46, DETOX wrote:
Having romantic sex with your partner is actually called MAKING LOVE while beating the shit our of your partner while having sex is part of BDSM for those familliar with the term.They both have to do with sex but they are different,otherwise according to your way of thinking making love with a man/woman is the same as bestiality which is the act of sex between a human and an animal,they are both related to sex but they are very very different you know.

This was a very bad example in my humble opinion.

I think i got a better example that has to do with painting which like music is also an art.





ok,i ll try to rephrase it
leaving love aside,because it is a feeling,while sex is a physical act!

progresive house:making slow sweet love,licking behind the ears ,barry white on stereo,phrases like"i love you baby" and stuff like that.

progresive trance:allmost the same as above,maybe a litlle bit faster,red hot chill peppers instead of barry,maybe some schratches from nails in the back an pulling some hair.and words like"yeah baby give it to me"

fullon:thinks golittle faster here,more tense,maybe some slaps in the ass,pulling hair,some light bites and expressions "fuck me hard baby"


darkpsy:,nails in the back,bites,stakastakastaka quickphase,
"pull my xair,slapp my ass,fuck me hard you bastard give me that big hard c@ck" and similar stuff..



oh hell i like them all


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