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What is your biggest struggle?

the five assed monkey
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Posted : Aug 26, 2015 13:55:08
I'm curious to know what other people struggle the most when producing music..
Cheers
wirakocha
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Posted : Aug 26, 2015 22:19
in the mix stage about to make that dimensional sound of your music... like from another space...           d(((+_-)))b
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Supa Tu Zill
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Posted : Aug 27, 2015 20:38
Arranging. Giving me hard time everytime.           Jonesy
knocz
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Posted : Aug 30, 2015 14:11
Three main struggles for me nowadays
- finding spare time
- remembering to place risers in my tunes while I'm making them
- making drum rhythms

(and, I'm also completely stuck on this Louis Prima mashup... I just cant get anywhere with this guy's style )           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
moki
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Posted : Aug 31, 2015 15:00
Main struggles:

- "Quantifying" my midi input after I have recorded some nice long fast-changing instrument (or VST) by playing on midi keyboard
-> and as I record most of my paths in this way (and not drawing rectangulars, exept only the drums sometimes), this is probably what I struggle most and what would make my life very easy if I knew how

- Keep the overall output clean without good hardware equpment -> and have the discipline to learn professional sound design step by step without expecting miracles

- Switching between the need to do things together with someone else to make it more interesting and inspiring on one side, and the need to make music alone, to be free to create and not to be permanently told how "every trance producer does it this way". My friend produces since more than a decare and loves to tell me what is what which can be cool but also restrictive.


Actually there are too many struggles anyway. But who knows, may be this is what makes it attractive at all.
moki
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Posted : Aug 31, 2015 15:59
No, I lied. My biggest struggle is the idea that so many people have done it so well before me and a life would not be enough to become better than them, so at the end of the day music production might probably not make any sense in my life. Good that there are moments when it is only important to be here and now and lose any "thoughts" going with the flow - this is the biggest struggle in trance.
knocz
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Posted : Sep 1, 2015 01:29
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On 2015-08-31 15:59, moki wrote:
No, I lied. My biggest struggle is the idea that so many people have done it so well before me and a life would not be enough to become better than them, so at the end of the day music production might probably not make any sense in my life. Good that there are moments when it is only important to be here and now and lose any "thoughts" going with the flow - this is the biggest struggle in trance.



I get your feeling.. but then you lay down a killargh beat and man, there's nothing else better in the world Dum bada dum bada dum bada dum           Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz
frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 1, 2015 23:47
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On 2015-08-31 15:59, moki wrote:
No, I lied. My biggest struggle is the idea that so many people have done it so well before me and a life would not be enough to become better than them, so at the end of the day music production might probably not make any sense in my life.



You shouldn't think like that. This isn't some competition. Only hardcore fans and marketers need to be constantly pointing out who the best is. Try and find two of them that match. It's THAT much subjective.

I can relate to you feeling like you don't have the time that you feel you'd need to bring your production to another level, many of us struggle with similar issues. But there's always enough time for you to just be yourself, and if you can pull your act together and deliver something interesting, then the community will welcome it for sure.

What I'm trying to say here, is that you should never look at it from that angle. It's not either the top 10 worldwide or nothing. There's a lot of room in between and one should really just focus on doing the best one can and be happy for it. Just do what you can with what you have and the time you can afford to put in - and make it count!

Prakul


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Posted : Sep 3, 2015 06:32
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On 2015-08-26 22:19, wirakocha wrote:
in the mix stage about to make that dimensional sound of your music... like from another space...



+1 for this. Mix stage. Getting each sound in your track to sound professional, clear and dynamic in the whole mix.
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 3, 2015 08:54
Overall structure or arrangement. Usualy I start with kick and bass and some synth line. Than hats etc.. and then.. the intro.. to make it fit to the first part is often a struggle.

This time my hardest struggle is to get my cubase working. Since one month trojans have conquered my system. All I do now is producing on renoise but Still fun.
routingwithin
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Posted : Sep 3, 2015 13:09


The thing I realized after about 12 years is that there should not be a struggle at all. I don't think that many of the Greats had problems with anything. Maybe here and there but solved it and moved on.

I believe that if this path was meant for you it would have been easy to do and also felt like it just came naturally.

After a long time blocked up within a loop, not getting that unique sound required for progression I put down my hat and moved on.

I grew up with rock and alternative metal. So then I concluded that psytrance, does not run through my adolescent veins.
Now give me an electric and ask for metal and my composition is endless. Riff after riff - it just flows naturally. There is no hesitation with knowing what comes next and how the arrangement should emotionally progress.

I am not saying giving up is the solution, but maybe, trying to find the space in this world where you fit perfectly.

          " We are together in this matter you and I, closer to death, yes, closer than i'd like. How do you feel? - There can be no division in our actions, or everything is lost. What affects you affects me. "
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 3, 2015 17:14
Writing the actual music and making it sound good has never been a struggle for me, although writer's block happens to everyone.

My biggest struggle these days is with the point of doing it at all; why am I putting so much effort into making this kind of music when no-one buys music any more and none of the major festivals are willing to give my act a chance to be heard, even after 20 years making a global reputation for originality and live performance? It gets me very depressed.
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 3, 2015 17:49
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On 2015-09-03 08:54, TimeTraveller wrote:
Overall structure or arrangement. Usualy I start with kick and bass and some synth line. Than hats etc.. and then.. the intro.. to make it fit to the first part is often a struggle.

This time my hardest struggle is to get my cubase working. Since one month trojans have conquered my system. All I do now is producing on renoise but Still fun.




Try to download, install and run a full scan with Malwarebytes software (it's free) and you'll be amazed with the number of stuff it picks on your system - never failed me once. Get yourself some software capable of cleaning the register for residues of previous installed software. Then have a look at your startup to check if there's anything that shouldn't really be there. After this, your system should already feel a lot quicker.

When you're done with that, let me know. I know of some bugs with Cubase 8, like crashing on exit and stuff like that. But there's actually a quick fix for it, which is akin to turning off the accelerated graphics for plug-ins that make use of it, like Fabfilter's Pro Q 2 for instance. Another thing that I noticed immediately is that Cubase 8 and Automap (novation) don't get along very well for the time being (had to disable all automap vst plugs + the automap thingy by itself for the time being). Hit me up with a PM once you have your system ok and I'll send you the details. Cheers
frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 3, 2015 18:00
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On 2015-09-03 17:14, Colin OOOD wrote:


why am I putting so much effort into making this kind of music




the whole scene needs people like you. I can relate to how this entire scene does not value the veterans like it should, it lives on constantly updating the lineups to the "next big thing" - which can many times not sound as big, it's mainly a marketing thing. that alone can be very frustrating, but speaking for myself, I'd like to see that change. there's much more then one generation playing this game now, not so young myself (32 atm) and don't exactly relate to all the shinning new stars filling the lineups nowadays. a more diversified scene would certainly be welcome.
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Sep 3, 2015 18:03
If it needs me, or us, it should fucking hurry up and let us know before it's too late. I tell you now I'm at the end of my tether.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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