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what happend to the trance ???
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nir getafix
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Posted : Oct 28, 2004 19:19
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hi peaple ... in this full on (full money) days i ask my self ... what happend hear ...
the trance be more like faction .. peaple like what all the peaple like ... and every thing sound to me more like "we come to do alot of money" and not music .... music r need to come from the hart ... god dam its a
art ....
and all this kids .... thay dident know what is real trance ... dident know what psychodelic means ... dident know who is juno reactor ....
if i ask some peaple in the streets of israel what is trance ???
thay for shur tell me .. trance is skazi or some thing ....
all this days reamind me the "nizhonot" ..
every track is a gimik ..
to where the trance r going ???????
plz coment what do u think ... and corect me if u think i worng ...
peace nir ....
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blueOrb
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Posted : Oct 28, 2004 20:28
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and i was just wondering how come anyone hasnt posted a "old scene rocks new scene sucks" ,"damn these kids", "goa trance what hapd.", "blah blha" etc...post since a long time.... 
seriously dude even i never heard juno reactor.....but does listening to juno make me more psy......???
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HandA
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Posted : Oct 28, 2004 21:11
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On 2004-10-28 20:28, blue orb wrote:
and i was just wondering how come anyone hasnt posted a "old scene rocks new scene sucks" ,"damn these kids", "goa trance what hapd.", "blah blha" etc...post since a long time....
seriously dude even i never heard juno reactor.....but does listening to juno make me more psy......???
peace
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Nope I doubt it but it might open up your eyes to why so many old timers think the new Full On music suck  |
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nir getafix
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Posted : Oct 28, 2004 21:15
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mr. blue orb ...
u realy dont understand the real point of my
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i dont talk about old r good and new is suck ,,, and realy not about if u or i more psy ... and juno its only example about from where trance music come from ... and why ...
i think trance or psychodelic music is come to open your mind (with drugs or with out) ..
when u dance u dont think about girls or some thing ... its only u and the music .. this is trance!!!
and in this time we dont have alot of artist
they know how to do that very good ...
and alot of artist want to do money more then art ....
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furthur
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 05:57
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Also, a LOT of artists do it for the music and the art, just stop focusing on those that don't. Granted, with so many releases coming out, many of them sounding very similar too, it is harder to find the gems, but when you find them, they really stick out and they make the search all that much more worthwhile.
There is still a lot of good music out there, not less that before in number, but definitely less proportionately, which should not be surprising at all; it happens to any genre as it grows and becomes slightly more popular, there is more shit coming out. Some time later, this shit is what makes the hype die down, and only those that were in it for the music stay, as they don't care that the music suddenly became less popular. Look at prog rock for example towards the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80's with the thousands of groups making a very similar sound, and the people complaining; but some 10-15 years later, with so much less people listening to prog rock and so much less critics paying attention to it, much more of the stuff (percentage wise) became innovative and listenable again.
You'll find your fix Nir if you look for it.
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soulsphere
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 07:51
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i agree with nir,more and more nowdays acts sound the same,involving that boring formula of catchy tunes+vocals+house elements...
(the new Astrix)
for me,this is not what trance meant to be.
i say - stay oldschool,ya
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ganjagil
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 08:23
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I fully understand what you all mean and all i can say is that everybody is right because the scene right now is for money most of it at least but then again you still find artists who do the music from their hearth and soul and it takes a lot of time to get to the great level of creating a machine for the dancefloor...but as time passes by new artist will arrive and some will do the same so i recon that through all the times their will still be the psychedelic music that we all love and their will still be those moments of pure love and energy through the music in the dancefloor only these days they are harder to find!
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Jeff
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 09:36
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On 2004-10-29 08:23, ganjagil wrote:
the scene right now is for money most of it at least
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I know I already posted about that but... one day you have a thread about the Psy scene being on the verge of chaos (mp3-stealing, corrupted party organizers...) with artists who can't make a living out of their music, and the other day almost everybody says that lots of psy producers today are in the scene exclusively to make money !
I feel deeply disturbed (once again...) : is Psy Trance a milking cow or a dead cow ??
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ganjagil
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 09:42
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mmm it's very difficult question the thing is you mention IM - Cities of the future now this is one of the ego driven tracks which is clearly made for money so i understand that you are confused man, the scene today is not dead and never will it be because there will always be artists who make the good music only you have to search more and you will surely find great music that will satisfy your hunger!
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nir getafix
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 12:50
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hi friends ... i am realy happy that some one in my opinion ,,,, but i have a question .. may be all this money time and all what we talk about ... its all because the internet ... i mean that in the past u go to the cd rec and buy some orginal cds and thay with u alot of time .. u fall in love tham ... and about unr music ... if u want unr music u need to be with very big conection or " to suck ... to d.j " .. today every one have all the unr ... and dont need the rec store any more ...
may be its because the internet ???
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blueOrb
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 13:13
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Dark_Dork
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 13:44
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On 2004-10-29 09:36, Jeff wrote:
is Psy Trance a milking cow or a dead cow ??
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I don't know for sure, but maybe a milking cow for infected, skazi, etc,  and a dead cow for underground artists... I wouldny say dead cow though, more like a retarded 3 legged cow.  |
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PsyGoatDelic
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 15:29
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On 2004-10-28 19:19, nir getafix wrote:
all this days reamind me the "nizhonot" ..
every track is a gimik ..
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i noticed something... couple of years ago when a good trance was produced labels were huntung it and releasing it on several compilations... and now... alot of tracks sounds the same so whats the point..
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deejayridoo
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 17:17
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On 2004-10-29 05:57, furthur wrote:
Also, a LOT of artists do it for the music and the art, just stop focusing on those that don't. Granted, with so many releases coming out, many of them sounding very similar too, it is harder to find the gems, but when you find them, they really stick out and they make the search all that much more worthwhile.
There is still a lot of good music out there, not less that before in number, but definitely less proportionately, which should not be surprising at all; it happens to any genre as it grows and becomes slightly more popular, there is more shit coming out. Some time later, this shit is what makes the hype die down, and only those that were in it for the music stay, as they don't care that the music suddenly became less popular. Look at prog rock for example towards the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80's with the thousands of groups making a very similar sound, and the people complaining; but some 10-15 years later, with so much less people listening to prog rock and so much less critics paying attention to it, much more of the stuff (percentage wise) became innovative and listenable again.
You'll find your fix Nir if you look for it.
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wise words, my friend!!!
as soon as there´s masses of people involved in something, the capitalists see the potential money in it and the spirit gets lost.
this is the problem of being all too open and tolerant to everybody.
there must be some restraints, not done by people, but by the impersonal content of the culture.
there´s no need to bust out the ones who do not join the scene for the love of the music and the spirit.
- we just have to stick to our thing (musicwise, culturewise, etc.)
and then, everything goes the right way.
no censorship, just autonomous behavior will keep the money bastards out.
i, for my part play exclusively twisted psychedelic music which simply is too much for the "wrong type of people", which make them leave
i also speak a lot about psychedelic culture, spirituality (buddhism), sociology, politics etc.
this is all interlinked and bores the hell out of the people who just want to make quick cash
so, let´s just be imperturbable and calm.
we don´t need to do too much. it all comes as it comes |
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Psypepper
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Posted : Oct 29, 2004 19:21
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The same problem in Russia... People do not know a trance, they know skazi... Kill itself amfetam and do not wish to be improved spiritually. The stage is covered with commercial boom...
PS: Dark generates evil!
I not against Dark Psy, about against dark aggressions... |
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