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What effect had l.s.d. at psychedelic music?
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 5, 2004 16:48
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On 2004-07-05 03:15, Side-A wrote:
we are more than just physical & animal bodies
there is more than just our human perception of reality
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Ofcourse there is...for sure
But why do we have to use LSD to find out ways to xpand our perception?
You obviously underestimate your brain abilities mon ami.
Plus that you are trying to convince others ,with a DANGEROUS and immature efort,
that whilst LSD is burning your brain cells,it is not harmful though, for substances such as serotonine,dopamine etc
If the research saying this CRAP is albert hoffman's one...well...i am not surprised.
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olivier
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Posted : Jul 5, 2004 16:53
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albert hofmann was an eminent chimist and scientist ... and lsd has nothing to do with serotonine and dopamine , so please stop saying this bullshit because that's not true, that's not the way lsd effect the brain ! make your researches and u will see !
u r talking about something causes by drugs such as cocaine , mdma amphetamine that fuck off serotonine and dopamine in the brain, and that's absolutely not how lsd works ... |
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 5, 2004 17:13
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Albert hoffman was a hallucinating "mentaly disturbed" philosopher.The word scientist is a disgrace for the whole scientific society,to use for such a clown
Albert yes...but Ainstein was a scientist,and a bright example of what the human brain can achieve
Brain cells are the conection for all brain substances.
Stop being a fanatic supporter of miss informing ppl.
LSD IS BURNING YOUR BRAIN,YOUR BRAIN EFFECTS YOUR BODY WITH ALL THESE SUBSTANCES (SEROTONINE,ADRENALIN,)
LSD is a DRUG!You can recover even from heroin,but NOT FROM LSD |
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olivier
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Posted : Jul 5, 2004 17:55
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On 2004-07-05 17:13, euphoria wrote:
Albert hoffman was a hallucinating "mentaly disturbed" philosopher.The word scientist is a disgrace for the whole scientific society,to use for such a clown
You can recover even from heroin,but NOT FROM LSD
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there is nothing objective in your arguments ...at least i try to be objective
before being a philosopher , hofmann was an eminent chimist ( a chimist is not a scientist to u ??)
about your last sentence .. that's really sad to read such things , it's even disgusting....
before being so categorical about a subject, please do somes researches at least for yourself ... |
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 5, 2004 19:20
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Can you tell me at least one andidote against LSD?
I can give you plenty against heroin.From recovering communities (human factor)
To methadone (medical factors) etc etc
Nobody will bother to put an effort for all these poor victims of LSD.
The world is suffering a lot cause of heroin,so please,don't support LSD.No need to add another DRUG problem to the medical society.(at least not another massive one)
LSD victims are helpless.
And the disgusting thing about the whole situation,is unfortunately, that ppl like you are trying to convince others ,so fanatically,that lsd is ok for mentaly strong ppl...Who are you anyway to put limits about "mental strength"
PPl have "gone"for ever even with ONE acid.
Get serious cause this is going to far |
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 5, 2004 19:29
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Objective?by Hofman's theories?
The conection of brain cells with brain substances isn't objective enough for you?
Or brain cells are far from dopamine etc etc? |
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olivier
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Posted : Jul 5, 2004 22:34
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i m not trying to convince anyone... i don't say such things as "try lsd it's amazing" or "don't ever try this shit" , i only say if u want to try, do it in the proper & appropriate way , knowing the postive & the negatives sides |
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panaeolus
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 21:30
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only 2 words for those suporting the l.s.d. use:
sick and destroyed
xaxa...we are all seek u think?
use of lsd ...one or 2 times a month
is not harm u...beside makes u real philosopher!
another view of life...and if u reject that point of lsd..use mushrooms that gives u a reborn!
for the one who says there is not a cure
...search plants my friend...if ur not a consumer only u ll find the CURE for all
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esiN
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 00:39
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What a bunch misinformation and utter close-mindedness i read in this thread.
Please inform yourselves before coming here and blurt out BS, and calling a large number of trancers like me burnt-out and brain-damaged.
One good place to (hopefully) start your research would be http://www.erowid.org . Largest online database on psychoactives with accurate unbiased information. Keep in mind that physicians all over the world corroborate and actually use this info on their daily work.
It has been long proven that LSD causes no physiological damage to any part of the body - including the brain, spine or chromossomes (in the doses that most people use it).
And there has been only one known case of an LSD attributed death (when some folk decided to SNORT a large amount of pure crystal LSD - hundreds of doses worth).
If there were no LSD, my friends, rest assured there would be no PSY-trance scene.
Lolz!
Do you think psychedelic music/arts existed before people started taking psychedelic drugs?
Sorry, they didn't. Nothing even close to it existed. Surrealism maybe, but not the full on psychedelism that has been flourishing intermitently since the sixties.
So, no LSD doesn't kill the scene. LSD brought up the scene. Worry about the 'feel-good' drugs like amphetamines and cocaine. And even these, i know of good normal people who use them quite responsibly.
It's virtually impossible to die from an L overdose. And virtually impossible to get addicted to it.
Sorry it will never cause problems like that of heroin! It has been around for more than 60 years. A large number of people have used and some even ABUSED hard, as in eating hundreds of doses on one sitting (called thumbprints: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1427364&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1) and/or eating acid every other day for long periods of time.
It simply doesn't cause the kind of problems Heroin does.
Please read some unbiased studies on it. Newspapers are biased, and so is most government 'propaganda'.
This thread looks like it comes from my local preacher, or the jeovah witnesses that sometimes come to my door.
I have had dozens of doses of LSD + dozens doses of other psychedelics like mushrooms and DMT.
I'm at university. Never failed a year. My peers still see me as a normal, responsible, not brain-damaged person. If these drugs changed anything in me, it was purely caused by the experiences themselves (not the chemical) and it was for the better, might I say.
Not to say there aren't any 'acid-casualties'. There are many and i know some personally. These drugs are not for everyone.
So, please don't take them!
If you must take the risk though, do it with responsability and moderation. This is mighty powerfull stuff. Any bad experience can be seriously traumatic. You may not ever be the same again. |
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 02:09
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I'm at university. Never failed a year. My peers still see me as a normal, responsible, not brain-damaged person. If these drugs changed anything in me, it was purely caused by the experiences themselves (not the chemical) and it was for the better, might I say.
Not to say there aren't any 'acid-casualties'. There are many and i know some personally. These drugs are not for everyone.
So, please don't take them!
If you must take the risk though, do it with responsability and moderation. This is mighty powerfull stuff. Any bad experience can be seriously traumatic. You may not ever be the same again.
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two months ago a guy died in our city combining acid and vodca.
Anyway.your last words are somehow confusing me.
Whow can you/me/everybody,know who is going to get serius,medium,or noy damaged at all?
I also mentioned heroin as a massive drug problem.Do you want lsd to become another one?And i am not talking about adiction cause there is not one for sure with lsd ,but,there are plenty of other ones...
As for taking acids every day without harming your self ,well,i should laugh but it is no good at this time.
And all these researches...looks like you want to offer an alternative drug that doesn,t harm your brain?Or your body or or
Then why do you say in the end about serius and traumatic experience?By wich mean?
Sorry confused |
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 02:21
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What a sight....
COME ON This is an lsd advertisment.Who the fuck are these ppl
SOrry this is rediculus. |
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macdeath
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 02:50
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you have to understand that the lsd world is fake!consider how many "friends" you have make at parties ."oh,honey let me meet you my best friend i know him for five minutes,he is very good person,come on give me a hag buddy"and after the event you may not ever see him again.PEOPLE WAKE UP ALL HIGH SOCIETY PEOPLE(GOVERMENT,RICH MANAGERS...)LIKE A LOT THIS SITUATION BECAUSE ANY OF OUR TORTURED BRAINS IS DANGEROUS FOR HIS COMFORTS! |
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 10:43
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.PEOPLE WAKE UP ALL HIGH SOCIETY PEOPLE(GOVERMENT,RICH MANAGERS...)LIKE A LOT THIS SITUATION BECAUSE ANY OF OUR TORTURED BRAINS IS DANGEROUS FOR HIS COMFORTS!
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That's right
And this is the social point of view.
I have a feeling that intelligent actually ppl are more attracted to substances like lsd
.And some how this makes me very sad.I think that the "market target"for lsd dealers/producers,are the last natural high brains in this world.
Very nice point macdeath |
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olivier
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 10:48
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On 2004-07-08 02:50, macdeath wrote:
.PEOPLE WAKE UP ALL HIGH SOCIETY PEOPLE(GOVERMENT,RICH MANAGERS...)LIKE A LOT THIS SITUATION BECAUSE ANY OF OUR TORTURED BRAINS IS DANGEROUS FOR HIS COMFORTS!
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That's right
And this is the social point of view.
I have a feeling that intelligent actually ppl are more attracted to substances like lsd
.And some how this makes me very sad.I think that the "market target"for lsd dealers/producers,are the last natural high brains in this world.
Very nice point macdeath
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u don't use lsd but u are for sure paranoid ...
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euphoria
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 11:06
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you have to understand that the lsd world is fake!
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Come on side -A 
Read more carefully the point that this guy is trying to reach....
You said thet i don't use lsd but i am paranoid 
So you admit that lsd makes you paranoid afterall?
Cheers mon ami |
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