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Braindrop
Braindrop

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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 21:31
of late..ive been thinking of something ....
mp3 and file sharing.....and i know how big a menace it is to evrybody and on how the labels and artists are losing a lot coz of it.....
but lets see wat cld be the problem.....of course i'd say 90% of the ppl want to buy the cd's...BUT.....how to get the cd's when its not available in ur store??? yes i know u can order it online....but wat if u dont have a credit card??...wat if u dont have enuff money to order it thru the ONLINE way...coz it costs much more than u just goin to a store and pickin up a cd!!...so...having said all this....you really dont have much of a choice do u? u love the music....u dont have a credit card so that u can order it online! so r u left with a choice?..no...the only way to get the music is to download them....

So in the end....it also boils down to the method of distribution.....coz its something which is not available in all the stores...

wat do u guys think?? i think all the label managers might have something to say abt this...
BOOM
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TrancEisT
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 22:07
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S-E-A-R-C-H (and this time it actually has a double meaning, instead of the usual evil moderator saying)
suomi guy
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 22:27
in Israel there is only one good shop that bring lots of cds more and less underground and its more expensive there than in online order (concluding the shipping payment).
Most of the sites also take cash which you send them in mail. or try to ask a family member or a friend with a credit card to pay and you'll give him cash.          "My single one to cross the ways that have heart, any way that has heart. That way I cross, and the only test that is worth is to cross all its length. And that way I cross watching, watching, out of breath"
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Nathan
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 22:43
UrbanPsySpirit; I agree with u- 100% true.           -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning=
radi6404
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 23:13
True UrbanPsySpirit, if i can buy my cds in a store that i can go there of course i would buy cdīs instead of download. But i hate online buying and thatīs the reasom why i download. I remember the time that i have found more psy cdīs in the sotres, but today all is clean from psytrance stuff. I have buy very much cdīs at the 2000/2001, but after i hadnīt found any or good psy stuff in local stores.
mubali
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Posted : Oct 11, 2005 23:58
Before I got a credit card, I would just have my roomate buy the stuff on his card and I'd pay him in cash. It's not really hard to find a way around these things, you just really need to be dedicated enough to want to purchase cds, and to this day I still buy stuff.           An Eagle may soar, but Weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Basilisk
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 05:50
If you really want it, you find a way.

I monitor all the online shops and ebay and eventually purchase everything on my want list. It works quite well. Credit cards are your best friend or worst enemy, depending on whether you need to eat
full_on
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 07:02
I started to use my girlfriendīs credit card and voila: now there are only 3 CDs in my wishlist... I bought ALL original stuff I ever wanted...
And Iīm not rich, Iīm a PhD student here at Brazil and I earn less than US$ 450,00 per month, I pay my rent and all my bills (itīs really truth, just type FAPESP on google, itīs the institution that pays me, on their homepage youīll find how much they pay to a PhD student at Brazil, being a scientist here really sucks! ).

So donīt say you canīt do it, I hear a lot of people saying that, and I know these people and I see that they just donīt want it bad enough...

1 original CD here in Brazil (including shipping payment) costs the same price of an good ecstasy pill or a blotter. I see tons of people at parties here that say "I love trance, trance is my life", they take A LOT of drugs in every party, but NEVER bought an original CD. In fact, more than 98% of people here at parties never saw a original CD with their own eyes.

Also the party tickets usually are more expensive than a original CD.

So people go to a lot of parties and take a lot of drugs, but never bought an original CD... If they really wanted, they could buy it.

And Iīm just talking about psytrance stuff, people use money on a lot of non-psytrance related superfluous stuff and say they "Iīlove trance, Iīm plur, PLUR, PPPLLLUUURRR" and all this sort of bullshit, but NEVER bought a original?

I bet this is not different in other countries: people like to talk, but lack the attitude.
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ucc
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 07:14

if i spend all my money on music i would've been dumped already!
full_on
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 07:28
Iīm not saying to spend all your money on music.

Iīm saying that I think it is very difficult that buying 2 CDs per year will make you get dumped...

One think is to buy a few CDs, other different thing is NEVER buying any CD, specially when people say that they love the music and use as an "excuse" not to buying: "we just canīt find it".
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ucc
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 07:36
hey, i'm buying more than 2 cds a year!!!

i understood what you mean full_on
CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 12:42
we have a common place friend full_on.what u say Its true to the bone.in fact with 50 euros(party admission+paraphernalia ) u can buy 5 cds and party for a week.keep that in mind
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Braindrop
Braindrop

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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 20:25
i agree with all of u....and im not sayng that ive never bought an original cd......!!cmmon guys....my point is.....THE DISTRIBUTION!!
if the cd's were available like in almost all good stores ....then this downloading thingy wld have reduced considerably....my question is??...why is that it is not distributed in major stores??...for ex: where i am at, if i go to Virgins Megastore.....teh only psy related cd's are Yellow Snshine Explosion collection.....the Goa collection...and stuff....and blve me.....most of it aint all that good?....so why dont the otehr labels promote the album that way??is the distribution costs and overheads too expensive?just wld like to know

boom!
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Oct 12, 2005 20:34
Quote:

On 2005-10-11 21:31, UrbanPsySpirit wrote:
wat if u dont have enuff money to order it thru the ONLINE way...coz it costs much more than u just goin to a store and pickin up a cd!!



Thats not true...From my experience at least, and Iīve been to several shops in europe selling psy music, its much cheaper to buy over the internet.

Quote:

yes i know u can order it online....but wat if u dont have a credit card??...



I believe there are ways to buy without a credit card, check paypal, I think you can do money transfers and use debit cards and then pay via paypal.

Nowadays I buy so many things over the internet, its very reliable, and normally you get your order at your door in about 2 days.

Also Iīve ordered cds with "pay on delivery" where you pay in cash to the postman or later you go get it at your nearest mail shpo, but I think that method doensīt exist for all countries.
Pax
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Posted : Nov 12, 2005 13:51
Not everyone is so lucky, or so well off as to be able to plunk huge amounts of money on things like that..I mean we'd all like to, but the psy scene has (gasp)trancers who've got very limited funds. I'm not going to defend downloading (it is bad, I know that), but it sure seems reasonable when a.)you have looked in all your local record stores and it's not there. b.)it's not on ebay and c.)Saikosounds and Psyshop don't carry it either. This happens on a regular basis when I am looking for specific older titles or comp's. Something to keep in mind.
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