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Psybaba
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 12:17
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the idea of long mix does not stand for psy trance at all, pal
do you remember goa/psytrance have much much much more story than house or techno..that is why i like this music a lot.....
i would say long mix like that kills music even if it sounds like rmx.
that is why still many djs such as raja ram, goa gil and some old most respected djs are not beatmixing but still knows how to mix ( or even i would say connect music in the right way )
that is the bottomline that Dj SO is not psytrance dj for many points even he can just beat mix tekno
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russ
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 12:54
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hi mad factory/el-5!
greetings from russ! long time no see! how have you been?
you seem to have got very excited about something:) don't worry, there is no war here!
a few people were simply mentioning a few dj's they like. and of course certain dj's tend to like certain styles of music. it's not such a big deal for you to get so excited about.
i agree to a certain extent what you said about dj's getting stuck in one style. this is boring. the best trance dj's in the world are able to play across all genres and play the best of the old and the new. but there are very few dj's able to do this! james monroe is one of the few i have seen who can. he plays unreleased stuff and then an old classic track from 3 years ago, but you don't know it's a classic track, it sounds like you are hearing it for the first time. and the truth is i have not seen ANY dj's in Japan at this level, so I was just mentioning a few who I think are good, not great.
also, some of the good dj's in japan are very young, like sal 21 and so 22. it is very difficult for a dj so young to have control over a wide variety of styles. but give them some time, and they will mature. i remember hearing you play at roppongi 4 years ago, and there was no variety in your style either! it was just very fast and very "psychedelic". but you have grown as a dj and become more mature and learnt to add variety to your sets. these other dj's will do the same.
also i don't totally agree with you about playing for the crowd. of course you have to have one eye on the crowd, but you also have to have one eye on creating a journey that is satisfying artistically. in japan at many parties there are so many young people that if you play only for the crowd, you can just play non-stop GMS/Alien Project style, and everyone will go crazy! when domino plays, the crowd goes fucking crazy!! but is she the best dj in Japan??! NO! there is no artistry or skills or intelligence in her sets at all. it is just fodder for the floor.
Also, those dj's who watch the crowd play for the people IN THE FRONT, not for those IN THE BACK. the people screaming in the front of the dj booth or the front of the speakers are often teenagers totally off their head on e or speed. can these people get a deep experience from the music? i don't think they even know what they are hearing. they just hear a kick drum and crazy synth leads and scream and stomp.
But what about the people in the back?? People on acid tend to find more space for themselves away from the craziness. They also tend to listen more carefully to a set over a long period of time and are much more patient. But if I am listening quietly by the trees, can you as a dj see me? Can you know what I am thinking? Can you change your set to reflect my moods by listening to me not scream? No, no, and no. To reach the people in the back, you have to look over the people in the front and use your imagination and trust in your own vision of the music.
trance parties are very long. there is time for much variety between different dj's over the course of the 2-3 days. i admire a dj who has the confidence and courage to play music that he likes, even if the crowd is not screaming.
and finally, you say that some of these dj's play too much techno or house, and it is not psychedelic. the psychedelic experience means different things for different people. i personally find much "psychedelic trance" produced today to be absolute bullshit music. it is produced almost entirely on computers by amateurs with sounds from sample cd's and cookbook style basslines and ideas recycled ad naseum from 5-10 years ago. what is psychedelic about that?? why does "psychedelic" mean fast and crazy? to me, psychedelic means deep and surreal and spiritual. to me the most psychedelic dance music being produced today is the very underground dark and deep house coming from Australian labels like Zero Tolerance and EQ Grey. This music has style, it has substance, it has depth, it has spirit, and it is sick as hell! If i take acid and want to have a deep psychedelic experience this is want i want to hear, not dj domino riding the goa-galaxy express. if you think only "psychedelic trance" is psychedelic, you too will always be limited as a dj.
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PIN
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 13:22
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Sorry to ask again, but what about Ryo 
And El-5 isnt brazilian
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mad factory
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 14:11
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hi russ,
hope you are well,any way...i in japan man!
and i mean play for the crowd,i mean not only for the
front,i mean play for every body man!and of course keep
my style!and also belive in my taste!what i just like say
is,now is ,many djs just play for they self!never looking
around and dont care if people enjoy or not!this what
i mean,djs have to play for the people!but any way...forgot that man...only what i need is making the people happy on the dance flor!russ i play live @ deffer
arieke this saturday,hope see you there man!
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PIN
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 15:17
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Ppl said you are one of the best japanse Djs, I thought you were one of the best Brazilian Djs ...
Just checking. |
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Psybaba
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 15:53
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well mr.russ, let me quote the moderater's word from different topic - it's only your opinion but i agree some point.
sounds like you are old man though.
well, myb dj domino ( btw she is british or somehitg, isnt she ) is not standing out for any skills but look at how many ppl screaming and following her parties. she is famous and she is giving some energy and positive vibe through her dj set. that is another fact we cant deny as you are mentioning.
trance could be categorized as techno as any other electorical music, but goa and psy trance is something different as you know.
yeah there is many music which sounds more psychedelic than psy trance(= most progressive and commercial full on are not psychedelic at all).
at most, i totally agree with mad factory saying,
PLAY TO MAKE PPL HAPPY and djs have to have fun with them and share the moment as well.
Dont say young or old, that is negative vibe.
who care if the guy dancing beside you were the same age as your kid or 10-20 yrs younger than your age.
Young ppl must have JUST found out the good time at the party and wanna get the power from dj, dj gets power from the crowd not the guy sneaking around trees being on acid.
period
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russ
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 16:16
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hi psybaba!
yeah, sometimes i talk like an old man, it's true! but i am not so old yet ;-) also i love your expression about "the guy sneaking around the trees on acid"! lol  sometimes that's me! but don't worry, i can dance like a young person too!
i also love the young people when they give the positive vibes. at the australia eclipse party, there were so many young japanese there, and they all gave great positive vibes with their unstoppable dancing! everyone i talked to was blown away by the japanese trance spirit. all i meant was that sometimes the young people only want energy, and that the most interesting trance sets are not only energy. that's all i meant.
and el-5, i also don't like dj's who play "only" for themselves. that is selfish. it's a real balancing art of making yourself and the crowd happy. i think we basically agree but just say it in a different way. good luck this saturday at difer!
peace to all!
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 15, 2003 18:00
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In my experience, if a DJ builds a set properly, he can put on whatever music he wants, and the crowd will thank him. Buddha Source played a progressive/minimal set, starting under 135 bpm after 3 hours of full-on. This is usually a safe way to make nobody dance. He didn't put one track "for the crowd", and yet, after 15 minutes the entire crowd was hypnotized, after 30 minutes you could understand what set was the best at the party (even agreed by one of the full-on DJs that played before him) - and that's AFTER 2 German and 3 Israeli DJs.
If a DJ does his job right, no matter what style he prefers to play and what his technique, everyone will thank him.
Like Tsuyoshi at Samothraki. 210 minutes of going crazy like it was 1997 again.
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Psybaba
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Posted : Jan 16, 2003 05:34
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hehe the ages are only numbers, russ.
dont get old emotionally that really matters and make difference.
I believe Dj Tsuyoshi Suzuki is the roll model of SELFISH dj who only play for himself.
He participate in some trance events and plays beakbeats and house even the crowd is expecting best legend time of his.
And i dont agree with Mr.Kaz saying at all, it is the job that has to be done by ORGANIZER, to put the right style dj on the right time.
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HIKARI
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Posted : Jan 16, 2003 09:57
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I agree with you Russ, as a DJ it is a balance of playing your style of music and what the crowd likes. I like to play progg and techno, so i try to find a balance where the people can dance and i can also have fun. Thats whats fun about djing, finding the right balance.
I personally fall asleep at a party when i start hearing Full on fast music. Thats because theres nothing new there. But this is just me. But I am sure there are a few people like me at a party who would rather hear proggy or tech than full on.
If you are a dj i think its important to do your job, as Mad Factory said its important to play what the crowd wants, but if all the dj`s did that(played for the crowd) dont you think the all parties would just be filled with GMS,Astrix,etc... Thats why i think it is also important to have dj`s who play a certain type of music. It gives variety.
Psybaba we seem to be going at each other for some reason. I never said DJ SO is psychedelic, I agree he is not a psychedelic trance dj(as in Full on Psychedelic), I wrote that he is a good Proggressive trance dj. Sorry if if that didnt get through. |
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Psybaba
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Posted : Jan 16, 2003 10:39
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you got the point, moderator.
there is not so much variety or balanced music in one party.
but i dont think the party will be filled with those commercial psychedelic trance.
that will be related to the organizers selection of Djs and live act to make it have good balance.
I dont think most of organizers no matter which is bigger or smaller, they dont know music that much.
Well nothing personal to you, but this forum gets off the original quetion or topic being asked often.
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mad factory
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Posted : Jan 16, 2003 11:29
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i dont think the party will be filled with those
commercial psychedelic trance!hikari i mean play
for the crowd,play the track in the rigth time!some
times i play early @ clubs so i not play gms,astrix,etc...
btw...gms,kox box,astrix,whorever...they are not commercial artists!commercial for me is madona,michel
jackson,elvis,this artists and others like same,yes this
are commercial for me!artists @ psychedelic scene they
dont sale more 0n 5000 or less copys!this nothing
compared with madona!not easy to live in this world!
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Psybaba
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Posted : Jan 16, 2003 14:38
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yep i agree
myb we should change those ' commercial ' music to SELL OUT artist's sound
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HIKARI
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Posted : Jan 17, 2003 10:08
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ok it seems we are going off topic, so lets start a new thread.
from now on all posts in this thread are for
BEST DJ IN JAPAN. all other posts will be Deleted. |
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Barak
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Posted : Aug 24, 2003 21:29
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Hello over there rising sun ppl!
Barak just knows one Japan Dj, Dj Shed, he really does rock with all that Underground music!!! Boom mister Shed! |
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