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Vision Quest dont pay!!
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neuromantik
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Mar 9, 2008 11:52
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Is it too hard to ask for upfront payment before giving the track away? Why do people keep repeating the same mistakes? |
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extazya
Extazya
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Posted : Mar 9, 2008 15:04
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Freedom Fighters
Freedom Fighters
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Posted : Mar 10, 2008 07:16
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Happend to us as well we released in V/a New Visions by Vision Quest and we havent got any of the money that they owe us and not even a stinking copy...
VQ, where are the good old days?
 Freedom Fighters @ Utopia Records.
www.Myspace.com/FreedomFightersMusic - Music & Profile. |
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Morphonic Records
Morphonic Records
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Posted : Mar 10, 2008 12:14
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...very sad...
(damm' I wanted this track for my VA ! )
After the TPE story (+ the "good old ones" from Arcadia) problems continue to rise on the japan psytrance scene...
for info : I didn't see Mister John Nakamura online on my messenger for long time also... same style block or something problem / escape from Japan... investigation starts  |
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tHuJoN
Freakulizer / Khainz
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Posted : Mar 10, 2008 12:44
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psychotrop
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Posted : Mar 10, 2008 12:51
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rumble pack / motion drive
Rumble Pack
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Posted : Mar 10, 2008 12:56
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On 2008-03-10 12:51, psychotrop wrote:
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On 2008-03-09 11:52, neuromantik wrote:
Is it too hard to ask for upfront payment before giving the track away? Why do people keep repeating the same mistakes?
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agree
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well..looks like most of us believed that a big an respected label like VQ wouldnt do such a thing.
Unfortunatley these days almost no label pays upfront, they need to wait for the money from the distributions, then they pay you. And this works with all the other labels we work.
www.myspace.com/motiondrive
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Basilisk
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Posted : Mar 10, 2008 15:30
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Don't be surprised if they come through after seeing this thread and realizing what a public relations nightmare they have on their hands  Isratrance seems to be remarkably effective with these sorts of issues...
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Mesq
Reality Pixie
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Posted : Mar 10, 2008 15:59
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On 2008-03-09 11:52, neuromantik wrote:
Is it too hard to ask for upfront payment before giving the track away? Why do people keep repeating the same mistakes?
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agree !
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I agree also. No money, no wave file. |
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Hugo
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Posted : Mar 11, 2008 20:17
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On 2008-03-09 11:52, neuromantik wrote:
Is it too hard to ask for upfront payment before giving the track away? Why do people keep repeating the same mistakes?
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agree !
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disagree, the 90% of labels pay after of the release, "some of them doesn't want to take a risk paying the andvance because the marktet" ,the rest (10%) belongs to major labels, Hommega, Neurobiotic & Solstice so you just can't, suprise that you psychotrop have an opinion like this one you know of this... anyway, there is a lot of labels that not even pay an advance or after so this is getting worst & worst each day.
Michael Jackson "Some people prefer to take life as it is without complications, some others we like to take life from the cornice of the wildest jungle"
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Talpa
Talpa
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Posted : Mar 11, 2008 20:29
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u cant take the milk in the supermarket unless u pay for it... |
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Spocko
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Posted : Mar 11, 2008 20:35
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The problem is: I'm a producer and if I don't receive advanced payment, I don't give my track to the label. Ok, I'm very rightful, and straight and stuff. But then, another producer will do it without the advanced payment. What does it mean? Labels don't need you! They will always have an upcoming producer thirsty for promotion and ready to give his/her (Psynina is a woman right? RIGHT!?) track away...
I'm not really a producer, not even a DJ, but I see things this way... if ALL producers don't change their atitude, the situation will not change to...
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psylogical
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Posted : Mar 11, 2008 22:14
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shit |
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psychotrop
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Posted : Mar 12, 2008 09:03
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On 2008-03-11 20:17, Hugo wrote:
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On 2008-03-10 12:51, psychotrop wrote:
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On 2008-03-09 11:52, neuromantik wrote:
Is it too hard to ask for upfront payment before giving the track away? Why do people keep repeating the same mistakes?
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agree !
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disagree, the 90% of labels pay after of the release, "some of them doesn't want to take a risk paying the andvance because the marktet" ,the rest (10%) belongs to major labels, Hommega, Neurobiotic & Solstice so you just can't, suprise that you psychotrop have an opinion like this one you know of this... anyway, there is a lot of labels that not even pay an advance or after so this is getting worst & worst each day.
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yo hugo
first of all i don't think we can still use the term major because even these sell nowadays around 1500 2000 copies max
anyway, at least the artist can ask 50% of the track on the command, and get paid the 50% rest when the track is released(contract agreement)
if all artists would do the same thing labels wouldn't have no choice, and would accept this
i was just saying by "agree" that it should be the normal way!
but as the trance scene is going down everyday and seems to be unprofessional... (luckuly exceptions still exist)
it's like when u play on a party or festival and you don't get paid: the normal way is to be paid before putting a feet on the stage to perform
Psychotrop(Neurobiotic Rec)
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rumble pack / motion drive
Rumble Pack
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Posted : Mar 12, 2008 09:27
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@psychotrop
you've got a point , but still...we're no newbys, we released 2 albums and over 30 compilation tracks, and in all the cases it worked out. Sometimes we recieved the money befor..sometimes after.
So when you face a big label like VQ, you excpect money shouldnt be an issue. I mean they still do partys every month for thousands of ppl.
Of course with new labels i never worked with, i ask 100% befor, thats kinda normal.
www.myspace.com/motiondrive
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