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freechameleon
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Posted : Jan 13, 2011 20:33
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well, i thought i'd better contribute a bit and did some brainstorming while i took a walk through the rainy forest.
everyone has a different approach when it comes to producing psychedelic sounds.
i for myself believe that the psychedelic feeling doesn't come from the synth or preset, at least not alone, and not from any special settings or waveforms, but from the arrangement, general atmosphere, pattern, modulation and fx.
lately i really dig strong fm for insects' sounds. i'm doing this on a mw xt, but the virus is capable of this too, as are most vsti (i guess).
osc 1 (the f-modulated) set to saw (i like saw - as all do - for the richness in high freqs), oct +2 or +3, sent to mixer.
osc 2 (the modulator) set to saw (or other ;-)), oct -3 or better -4, mix amt = 0, fm amt pretty high, maybe max.
then i set an adsr to mod osc 2, amt pretty high and negative.
so basic structure is here, if you press a key, you here a nice zwiieeeeeep zwieeep zwiep ziep zip zip z z z z z z z
bp or hp, high reso
(if you lower adsr mod amt and set osc 2 to -2 or -1 and play with the settings you get so many darkish psychedelic fm sounds you could fill a whole track with it.)
what i do now is set a random pattern, apply pingpong with nice feedback time, and just a little reverb for ambience.
cutoff mod by random, not too high amt, or you set the filter to keyfollow and choose yourself.
pan mod by random, max amt.
mod adsr a bit.
or do a faster pattern with short notes and similar settings, but instead of random you use:
mod cutoff with lfo, sinus is cool, amt medium.
mod volume with same lfo to your likes.
mod pan with same lfo, but 90° offset, amt high.
mod reverb (if you can) with same lfo.
stereo delay.
now you have a swarm of crickets circling around your head!
have fun! 
imo there are no special psy tricks for the virus, if you know the trick you can do it on nearly all synths, it might sound different, but all crickets also sound different! |
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:11
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excellent will have a play and get back with my version of what your doing
what i thought was more like a game of tennis
not trying to recreate but to push things a bit further....cos its all starting to sound a bit samey |
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:19
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the one im playing with mostly at the mo is the classic square wave sync 303 emulation
osc 1 square wave
osc square wave (hard sync)key follow set to zero
modulating osc 2 pitch by filt env( using velocity to effect amount)
then using lfo3 (sync to 1/6) to adjust portameno speed (SET TO 2 OCLOCK) in a negativ amount in the mod matrix
then play about with the lfo3 delay and mod matrix amount to get an exponential amount of porta
cant realy give you a set amount on this as it depends on the speed of the song and feel of the riff
hope i made this clear
actually i will write this down and get back
to you about how i do a 303 stye glide
but anyway cheers for the beers bro |
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:29
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i dont know about pro mate.......started of with a spectrum and a hacked midi lead
even had to write the software to sequence
tracks
you guys these days have got everything at your finger tips.....
im abit jealous when i think of all the fucking aroun we used to do just to jam a bit |
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:34
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ever tried recursive modulation? its an old modular system trick but it works on most stuff that wil let you
using an envelope to modulate its own attack and or decay
will give you a more plucked or softened sound depending on the positive or negative amount of the attack or decay |
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:39
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:46
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sorry it kicked off the wrong way
synth tennis.......
some of this stuff will be relevant for other gear as most modern synths are not that different
ps. i work as a chef and your apple pie recipe sounds tasty but a lot of work. |
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 00:56
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any of you guys work with Velocity off
been using it as a kind of cheep sidechain method...eg effect amount.filt cutoff pitch bend
anyone else got a thought on this |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 01:02
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you mean modulating filter cutoff or pitch bend with velocity and then setting the velocity of a certain MIDI note to 0? or am I misinterpreting
apple pie signature is a carl sagan quote btw 
 If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records |
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 01:03
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ok......lets get down to buisness
EXPONENTIAL GLIDE (303 STYLE)
lets get this baby nailed
any synth any style
please chip in |
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 01:04
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On 2011-01-14 01:02, willsanquil wrote:
you mean modulating filter cutoff or pitch bend with velocity and then setting the velocity of a certain MIDI not to 0? or am I misinterpreting
apple pie signature is a carl sagan quote btw
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not quite its based on the key
release.....when you lift your finger(note off)sorry should have been a bit clearer (virus chatter)
was only joking bout the apple pie....but i am a chef..... |
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freechameleon
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 10:32
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when you glide from note X -> Y on a 303 the glide starts before the end of note X and then glides into Y.
so if your synth doesn't glide like this, you can shorten X and insert one more note just before Y, then glide from X to the inserted note, and from there to Y.
it's a common trick 101 users do.
and you also need to get the accent right. |
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freechameleon
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 10:49
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On 2011-01-14 00:29, woodster77 wrote:
i dont know about pro mate.......started of with a spectrum and a hacked midi lead
even had to write the software to sequence
tracks
you guys these days have got everything at your finger tips.....
im abit jealous when i think of all the fucking aroun we used to do just to jam a bit
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even in the past there were good sequencers (for the time) and many trackers around.
for example i started with magix music maker and magix midi studio, they were widely available and - don't lough - i know tekno producers who made their tracks with the music maker in those days.
audio editors were available in those days, the one i used came with windows. each step took 15 min or so. :-P
then came 'affordable' cd burners and a friend gave the first cubase vst and some more stuff to me, i was so fascinated i spent whole days playing around, not knowing what i did.
it had some bugs, but that was ok.
the funny thing is that back then no private person i knew had an internet connection, so all was to be learnt by trial and error.
the good thing was that nobody told you that your kick doesn't sound psy, or not enough distorted for tekno, you just made the kick you could and all was cool.
and btw.: for the real cricket modulate the pitch of the second osc with a fastish square wave.. |
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woodster77
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 13:15
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i know mate but didnt have the shops near to me at that time......but yeah your right back in the days even before acid no one to tell you your shit wasnt right
sequential six trak was my first synth....still got it somewhere
and your spot on with the 303 glide i usually drag the start of the note back but its still a bit linear.......try using an env to shape the speed... works better imho |
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Posted : Jan 14, 2011 13:17
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so yuor talking bout cross mod......
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