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Very Important Matter Concerning Cd Releases

DETOX
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 21:03
Hi there.
I just noticed that the new GMS cd is already released in Japan and that its going to be released somewhere around June in Europe.
I also noticed the same thing happening with other cd's (i cant recall any names now to be honest but i did noticed that).
My question is the following.
WHY THE HECK ARE THEY DOING THIS?
Why do the artists make this kind of contracts?Why do they release their work earlier in certain places and later in other places?This is discrimination and it shows total disrespect to their fans around the globe.Secondly they force their fans to start downloading these new 'non released' instead from buing them simply because not everybody owns a credit card so that he can order the cd from Japan or any other country,so i dont want to see again these specific artists complaining that they loose money from their music being all around the net.Personally i started loosing respect to GMS because they showed clearly that they dont care about the music but they do care just for the money,thats bad and later on they are going to regret this,just remember my words.They dont respect all of their fans that passionately await for a new release and they just find out that the cd is released but they just have to go to Japan in order to purchase it.Thats bad guys,thats really bad,maybe we have to inform these artists that they have to respect as a little more,maybe we can change their minds by doing so.
Respect to all the trance people out there.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
cyberdelia
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:05
Iam with you here, Detox           BE HAPPY!!!
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:11
Before you'll know it they gonna divide the world to several areas and in each area they will release a cd which you'll be able to hear only in this area.
Like they did with DVD           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
tom anteater
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:18
i'm with you that what they did with dvd sux big time.
however do we know for sure that gms released first in japan because of gms? it might be unfair to blame them if it is the fault of their distributer or label.

on the whole though i agree releasing things first in different countries is very annoying and not fair.           >>love will tear us apart...<<
Luiz Paulo
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:26
Anyone care to explain to me what's the big problem?
If you are going to dl the album from the net, the fact that's been released on god-knows-where and not on your country or continent doesn't matter at all.
If you have a credit card you can buy it, even if it's released only in Japan. I regularly do so.
Take movies for example. Do I feel disrespected because Lord of the Rings opened in the USA before it opened here in Brazil? Not at all, because it doesn't matter.
It should be about the music, not about who gets what first.
Stop thinking this is a competition. This is about pleasure of listening to good music, not about the rush to have it before everybody else. This paranoia is what feeds this whole ridicule mafia trading...stop worrying about when you get your music.
GMS will come out in Europe and everywhere else, if one can't wait, then the album is not meant for him.
          the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist....
Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:27
Luiz, Im with you man.           "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb

LyTe Email:TechnoLyte@gmail.com
DETOX
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:32
Tom my friend just a little question for you.
Since when do groups have contracts at the same time with 2 labels or 2 distributors?
I guess they do have 2 contracts with different people at the same time (if they are allowed to,because i dont know if thats legal)when they want to make more money.Making money out of your work is not bad,but when u have 2 contracts at the same time then u have to pay more attention to one of them than the other.What i want to say is that if GMS have a different contract with Europe and a different one with Asia then its obvious that GMS are making all this work just to make money and for nothing else.
As for the thing u said about not blaming GMS because of their label action well i have to say that i cant believe that GMS label acts without their permission,its obvious that they knew about this kind of distribution before even signing their contracts.
Anyway these kind of actions are tottaly UNACCEPTABLE.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
DETOX
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:40
Luiz the problem is that there is supposed to be a Trance community around.What i want to say is that the Hollywood business has nothing to do with our topic here because our music hasnt yet been tottally comercialized while on the other side the Hollywood movies are just being produced to make money and break the box offices.
I dont want to think that trance artists produce music just to make money,if they do so then i guess that trance is heading into the wrong direction and something has to be done about it before its too late.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
tom anteater
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:40
yeah, i see what your saying detox its just i don't know the situtation and don't want to be too off hand about condeming someone (or something). it is at least possible that it wasn't upto gms no?

as to what luiz says - i guess i agree with you that psy trance music collecting is not the olympics (personally i have never been anywhere near ag anyway) but still if its been released elsewhere and its one of your favourite artists you could be forgiven for wanting it. you are right though that you could just order it with a credit card - i guess then the question becomes is the airmail quicker than the release schedule

peace           >>love will tear us apart...<<
Luiz Paulo
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:41
Man, I'm sorry, but why so much bitching about GMS?
yes, they can have different contracts for Japan and Europe. And u bet that Spirit Zone knows the cd is being released in Japan by Solstice. Are they worried? No, because most people will get theirs from them. The Asian market will get it from Solstice, and that's it.
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GMS are making all this work just to make money and for nothing else


And if their music sells, what's the big sin in GMS getting their money for it? They made it happen dude, with hard work and talent. I'm not a fan, but there are ppl who are, and GMS makes music for them, simple as that.           the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist....
Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:42
detox, it's not different contacts. it's called Distributors. it's not like Infected or posford or GMS signed on various record companies. and like ANY artist in the world, be it a trance musician or a rock band, saying these things are not fair is plain childish.

say i am an art fanatic, and i hear there's this great new exhibition of Cubistic art (say, Piccasso). but the first and second exhibition are in the Louvre, and me? i live in New Zealand. now how the F*** am i gonna see the first exhibition if it's so far away? To answer that - i wait, and i don't go on about how those bloody exhibition organizers signed with the louvre first instead of the New Zealand Museum of Arts. see how stupid this last sentence sounds?

btw, i live in israel, the New Zealand thing was just for emphasys.           "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb

LyTe Email:TechnoLyte@gmail.com
tom anteater
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:46
good point jason

patience is a virtue after all           >>love will tear us apart...<<
Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:48
yes, and ignorance can be bliss somtimes           "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb

LyTe Email:TechnoLyte@gmail.com
DETOX
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:48
Luiz i dont have a problem with GMS,in fact i am a fan of their music,a big one probably,i would have said the same things about any artist.
I just demonstrate for the whole thing because as i said before that i have noticed that recently many cd's are being released first in other countries and then in others,and the time between these releases is a lot because 3 months its a hell of a time isnt it?           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Luiz Paulo
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Posted : Apr 27, 2002 23:54
Come live in Brazil and see how many CDs get released here, and how much it costs me to buy my music. Then let's see if you complain

Anyway, i still can't see where's the disrespect in this. Not all coutries are equal, not all music is the same.

And I just can't see how people who can afford DSL connections or high-flying phone bills can't have a credit card, go online and buy the cd.
chaosunlimited has it, saikosounds too. just go there and treat yourself to some full on.           the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist....
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