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moksha_mind
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Posted : Apr 14, 2006 23:21
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hey everyone,
I was wondering opinions on what a good backdrop material, coatings, procedures, etc. for making good uv backdrops? I've been searching around abit and am still undecided.
We've decided on wildfire paints, but are still undecided on other materials. (still open to other suggestions on paints)
We need something to hold up for outdoor parties in the desert. washable perhaps, foldable, rollable, sunlight resistant properties etc. any help in general is good!
Mold is not a concern, just want matierial suggestions that will last a while and be somewhat resistant to the elements and work well with the paints, durability and environment.
any help, links, or expertise is appreciated. thanks and big fluoro grins!    "The sparrow is sorry for the peacock for the burden of its tail" -Rabindranath Tagore
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Pyite
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 02:44
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I like to paint on black canvas. First I draw what I want to paint with a normal pencil, then I paint everything in normal white paint and then I paint over top of that with fluoro acrylic. I find that wildfire is really good for some colors like purple, but with colors like red and blue cheap acrylic paints glow just as well and are a lot cheaper. It can also be a good idea to buy some major colors in non-UV paint. That way you can add some regular paint to your UV paint and itll glow less. Its good for adding a sense of depth.
Good luck!
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moksha_mind
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Posted : Apr 19, 2006 20:44
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Thanks for the ideas pyite. Well, the project is underway. My artist friend has all the stuff and ready to begin. I passed along the info you posted to her, she thought the idea for increasing sense of depth using non-uv acrylic was great.
She's painting on premium pre-primed duck canvas and then sealing with the UV protector from wildfire to avoid sunlight damage or fading. I'm going to sew a heavy border around the edge of the backdrop and install grommets in the corners for hanging. This is her first time working in UV medium, and she's really excited (me too!)
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Pyite
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Posted : Apr 20, 2006 18:10
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One quick note about non-UV acrylic :
Some of it glows weird colors under blacklight, so you might want to be careful. I bought a bunch of regular white one time that glowed bright purple.
Any idea what she's going to paint?
Boom
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moksha_mind
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Posted : Apr 20, 2006 21:47
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On 2006-04-20 18:10, Pyite wrote:
Any idea what she's going to paint?
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Something along the lines of a sentient lunar garden... I'll post pics once its done.
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Psycosmo
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Posted : Apr 21, 2006 21:32
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On 2006-04-17 02:44, Pyite wrote:
I like to paint on black canvas. First I draw what I want to paint with a normal pencil, then I paint everything in normal white paint and then I paint over top of that with fluoro acrylic. I find that wildfire is really good for some colors like purple, but with colors like red and blue cheap acrylic paints glow just as well and are a lot cheaper. It can also be a good idea to buy some major colors in non-UV paint. That way you can add some regular paint to your UV paint and itll glow less. Its good for adding a sense of depth.
Good luck!
~Pyite
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Ahhhh white first! so thats how ppl get the colours so bright on a black canvas.. thanks for the tip!
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maximjou
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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 03:45
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HI my question is. What do people use as canvas ? something durable and good to paint on.
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Pyite
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Posted : Apr 25, 2006 04:14
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Art stores often sell heavy duty canvas in really large sizes.
I just went to a fabric store and said "Hi. I'd like a bolt of your thickest, heaviest black canvas."
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Rik
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Posted : Apr 26, 2006 00:32
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Don't forget to buy fireproof stuff
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~Cortex~
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Posted : Apr 26, 2006 12:51
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or just fire proff it before... tribe of frog canvass sux for money it costs... personally use the best you feel works for you... and fire proof it yourself... in the u.s you must have loads of proofer products... and the primer idea? maybe for figures and 3d... even normal canvass painting... but uv?? i dont think so... and i have tried
ps the weight is important... too heavy more paint to use... like spung... and ypu have to hang these from high levels... not too practicle... ow when wet.... it molds... light weight is better... happy hunting =) U.V Art & Design
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Rik
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Posted : Apr 26, 2006 15:14
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Fireproof sunblock screen is very cheap, doesn't absorb much paint at all, much lighter than heavy cotton fabric, and ok to use indoor...
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moksha_mind
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Posted : Apr 28, 2006 23:25
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thanks for the xtra tips, fireproofing is a good idea. that could be a disaster!~
@cortex
you don't prime your canvas? Curious why you don't. In your experience, what is better about not using primer for UV stuff? (I'm not an artist so I don't know much about this, but will send the info to my friend) Our current project was primed and so far is working great.
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maximjou
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Posted : May 5, 2006 18:20
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hey guys this may may be a stupid question , i was wondering if i get a black canvas or even white and ,spraypaint the entire piece white ,as a primer
1. will that help me , get more color out of lighter tones ?since theres a nice layer of white.
2. is it a good idea to use spray paint at all on canvas ? (as backround)
3. after the piece is finished. it needs to be fireproofed, but is there anything else i could do to add any sort of protection. cause ive seen some pieces where the paint cracks when its dry, or is that just too much paint ? if anyone could get some time to respond it is appreciated.
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susan
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Posted : May 6, 2006 13:08
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i don't think fire proofing is neccessary. none of my backdrops are fire proofed,
i've never had any trouble. just don't hang your stuff near fire or other
extreme heat sources.
maximjou-
perhaps the paint you see crack when it dries is due to the overspraying of the
fire-proofing or it could be because there has been too many thick layers of
paint applied to the same area. both these things can cause your paint to crack.
if your paint cracks maybe your technique is not quite correct, adding further
'protection' won't do much to save it, and could even cause it to crack further
because of the extra weight you've added to the canvas, in specific areas where
your paint may have been applied thicker..
after heatsetting my work which waterproofs the paint, i've never oversprayed it
with any sort of further 'protection', and after 4 years of it being hung outdoors
frequently in all kinds of extreme weather everything is still in perfect condition.
the paint has not cracked and the colours are still very bright.
i NEVER fold my work, this too will eventually cause the paint to crack, along the
fold lines. i always roll on cardboard tubes.
i don't use canvas at all, i find it much too expensive and much too heavy.
i use the thickest cotton you can buy, here in Australia it's called twill. just
ask at the fabric shop, get them to show you what cotton they have available.
good luck mate 
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begreen
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Posted : May 6, 2006 15:29
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may may be a stupid question:q:
qestions cant be stupid
some camicals in to the coler u like and it gloos right away (without light)
but allso in black light
will give link when i know more about that stuff:-)
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