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xrust
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Posted : Oct 8, 2005 17:25
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what is yr opinion on that?not many have done it.i only know MAGUS
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andonis
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Posted : Oct 8, 2005 19:01
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I think that when using a sample it is the meaning of it that matters the most and also if it fits the rest of the track not the language that it is in. In this sence I like a greek sample if I find it to be meaningful and fitting and I dislike it if I find it to be silly or out of place.
P.S. I liked ''Skies tou feggariou'' by Psychonauts. I think it fitted as a sample with the rest of the track.
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Polyester Corespun
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Posted : Oct 8, 2005 19:07
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Vocal samples can add much power
and much atmosphere to music.
I think it needs a lot of work to find or create the right ones and use them properly within a track.
For example, look how much the vocals contributed in making Xibalba's Killing Feel a top summer hit!
And I also luv those samples with mystical deep male/female narrating voices taken from movies.
Yes I would like it if I heard greek vocal samples within tracks but I think that only greek or half greek artists could use such extracts wisely
enough.
Maybe because there must be some direct or indirect connection between the meaning of
the words and the track's title or mood, that’s why most samples used are in English.
But ok this is not always necessary. Most often it's just the colour
and the tone of the voice that does all the magic, so even if some foreigner would not understand the greek words, he would still like the track!
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aliened
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 00:04
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On 2005-10-08 19:07, Polyester Corespun wrote:
even if some foreigner would not understand the greek words, he would still like the track!
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hm !!! probably u r right ..lots of ppl likes songs , real songs with lyrics even they cant understand a word , but it u wanna send /add some msg to listners u shud be sure they can understand wot u wanna say
SPACE ODESSEY - RED CIRCLE
"..pera apo tin alithia pu vlepis
pera apo tin alithia pu akus , pu diavazis, pu esthanese
pera apo tin alithia tu thiti ke tu thimatos.." 
" And as the gods have given us , so we return the gift " - Bill Cosmosis " Gift of the Gods "
" That's right - otherworld lifeforms . A fucking alien ! "
'Strange word like 'psychedelic,' you know - drugs, the whole bit, you know, 'fre |
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gay_trancer
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 00:30
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greek vocals???...........hmm...check out tracks from Psychonauts and Cyan......vocals give a personality to the track but of course no vocals from cartoons or greek songs...we're talking about REAL vocals.... |
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 10:20
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Gr producers dont like living in Greece i guess as many other non artists,so even if it is possible someone is gonna wr8 down gr stuff,he wont.
a track with gr vocal should give a funny feel for the greeks and smth misunderstood for the others,hehe..it reminds me veggos trance listened at early 90s
Could u post a commercial gr vocal for example that could be moved to a trance tune?
English are chosen to be worldwides first language for its character..
Short words,easy speaking and listening etc,
It fits best on music instead of Greek or other traditional languages.
Notice that when listening/composing smth that u know that it can b understood from ppl all over the earth gives a universal feel that is completly difrent from the other elements of the music,it makes u feel somehow kool!
(if u know what i mean ;-)
ps.I ve listened to some infected mushrooms analog style tunes with israeli vocals and sound really differend instead their chill out album with en speaking that rocks..
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kelsos
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 13:34
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I guess it's really nice to listen vocals in your own language... space odyssey - red circle & cyan - daylight are two great examples of how greek vocals can fit nice in a track however listening to Shadows Of the moon by psychonauts.. gives you aniother opinion on the matter... tha track is great... but the vocals some how ruin it... whenever i play it i skip the vocals because it sound somehow stupid... that's what i believe  |
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Beat_Kiddo
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 18:27
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hehe...it seems that u ppl r not aware of matthew dekay's rmx of "poso se thelo" by despoina vandi
 though i think this track sucks,dekay's mix comes out really good,quite oriental,and da vocals come out really good.matthew dekay is dutch
i think that in some tracks vocals fit in really nice,it's worth having tracks with beautifull male or female voices.what mostly matters is the sound and hue of a voice,the use of it within a track and fitting it in rightly.so,i guess,language is not such a matter.
the track rings of the lords by G-pal includes vocals by "galadriel",some of it r in "elvish".i don't think anyone really cares about the meaning of the "elvish" words of Kate Blanchet,since her voice fits in sooooo nice in the track:)
it's worth making tracks with vocal samples in many languages,not just english.i think greek language sounds nice when spoken,even if not understood,like most languages(instead of dutch).
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xrust
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 19:55
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i was mostly refered at samples from movies or something,not into recording your own vocals.the meaning of the words of course is importand but for me what matters most is how the vox fit into track.anythin can be used,even star channel news for example!as for movie words,i know some full-samples movs!
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aliened
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 20:47
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On 2005-10-09 19:55, X_RUST wrote:
anythin can be used,even star channel news for example!
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lol kool !! wot bout private gold or rdv or playboy tv translated in greek lol kool ..that cud be nice .. greek is beautiful lang but heh hm .. words shud be clear to understand , not just a pile of sounds .. funny to hear some israeli stuff where they speak inglish with funny lol israeli accent ..anyway lots of peeps like song in foreig langs , w/o any understandin .. and thats pamperin my ears when i hear some words /samples , not only vocal in my native lang
" And as the gods have given us , so we return the gift " - Bill Cosmosis " Gift of the Gods "
" That's right - otherworld lifeforms . A fucking alien ! "
'Strange word like 'psychedelic,' you know - drugs, the whole bit, you know, 'fre |
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xrust
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Posted : Oct 9, 2005 21:32
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if u r talking bout "convrting vegeterians"vocals i totally agree man.it is so funny this accent
"this is the time of the rrrrevolution"lol
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VIRTUAL THOUGHT
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Posted : Oct 10, 2005 06:04
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a friend of me told me that listen a track with babastroumf at university last time.
the track said something like this:
''Kouragio stroumfita einai ena oneiro. ta oneira einai mono sti fantasia mas'' 
i ll try to find details. sounds interesting. hehe
i laugh a lot anyway...
i have listen rumors for magus - alitia
its a track that leventis talk (?) 
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Polyester Corespun
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Posted : Oct 10, 2005 11:56
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On 2005-10-09 19:55, X_RUST wrote:
i was mostly refered at samples from movies or something,not into recording your own vocals.the meaning of the words of course is importand but for me what matters most is how the vox fit into track.anythin can be used,even star channel news for example!as for movie words,i know some full-samples movs!
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yes this is exactly what I had in mind when I wrote my previous post : vocal samples from movies or recorded lectures/speeches by some famous person or extracts from real life situations etc.
For example there's a track by Groove Armada-Fly me to the moon, where the vocal samples are recorded from NASA's operations room in the process of a rocket's launch.
There's also a track (I can't remember artist or title) that contains parts of a speech by Albert Hoffman describing a psychedelic experience.
Creating vocals and using them in a track is different from copying and pasting vocal excerpts with a certain or no meaning as a supplement within a track's flow.
This is why I think it needs a lot of work to find good vocal samples and insert them properly into a musical piece.
I remember I had met a guy who had an enormous collection of vocal samples taken from greek unerground/cult movies, he used to spend a lot of time just watching movies and selecting those pieces that seemed interesting enough for use in music!
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xrust
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Posted : Oct 10, 2005 13:26
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On 2005-10-10 06:04, VIRTUAL THOUGHT wrote:
a friend of me told me that listen a track with babastroumf at university last time.
the track said something like this:
''Kouragio stroumfita einai ena oneiro. ta oneira einai mono sti fantasia mas''
i ll try to find details. sounds interesting. hehe
i laugh a lot anyway...
i have listen rumors for magus - alitia
its a track that leventis talk (?)
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the one with strumfita is a "krama" track.now as for "alitia",yes the track is indeed"alitia"!respect to magus!!
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JaLi
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Posted : Oct 10, 2005 17:31
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My brother has used greek samples from the poet Embirikos..It sounds great
Reasons to be cheerful are 3..! |
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