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PoM
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Posted : Sep 9, 2014 14:19
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hey guys have you used more this synth? whats your though |
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Posted : Sep 9, 2014 18:07
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Sounds great, I don't like that much the interfae and it's beyond my knowledge to program it.
 "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 9, 2014 23:57
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have you tried the second skin in the menu ? i like this one and yeah for programing same..i experiment and see what sound good, after looking at the manual it get easier
it s very good for modern psytrance sound cause of all the audio rate modulation and how you can modulate them ect and the sound is not dark , or muddy easily but more on the bright side and detailed imo
for sure lot of futur killah sound in psytrance will come from this , thats my though |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 10, 2014 14:35
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@login: you still need to know at least the basics of subtractive synthesis before you engage in programming this. but it's actually something that can aid you in getting down to business if you push yourself to it!
programming is second nature with anything modular, like ACE's slogan - "any cable anywhere" - the idea is to embrace the experimental side of sound design!
what must be confusing at first to the initiate is that you actually need to build the signal path, which is hard-wired in most other instruments. for example: oscillator (source) > filter > amp. this would be the most basic form and one that's found in many many instruments, from 70's classics to recent Moog or DSI synths.
then you need to plug the modulations. it's not that much different from setting things up in a modulation matrix on other instruments. you always need a modulation source and a destination for it. you could pick an envelope to modulate filter cut off, for example.
best tip: force yourself not to use presets!!! or when you do, let it be just something you look at to analyse what's going on, so you can claim that knowledge to yourself and apply it when you need to!
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 10, 2014 18:01
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I find Bazille as well great synth but couldn't force myself to spend enough time with it so far (reading the manual, diggin the pre'wired' signal flow etc)because Ace has hijacked my mind. It became an exploration field for me or a world of pure joy, a territory to explore many new worlds. Love this plug in indeed and I love it how it sounds hehe but I think Bazille is a monster too although a different kind of.
What I find a bit pity and time wasting about Ace is that retrigger mode is not working precisely, so percussive sounds with a defined pitch should be bounced down, maybe this one is better solved out in Bazille. I need to spend more time with Bazille, so long the price for it is tempting.
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 10, 2014 19:03
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i love ace too but maybe you will agree with me, i find it specially good in the lower octaves but i m not a fan of the highs/ i find it lack sparkle on top, it make me think a bit to some moog . |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 10, 2014 23:19
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definetly agree with you mate, the lows are decent but the highs sound often suboptimal or maybe somehow rough. Still for me a workhorse and a magic toy to play with 
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 11, 2014 14:01
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I agree to! But that's similar to what you'd find with the Virus, it's got to do with the character of the thing, U-he is a bit Virus-like in that it tends more to the dark side, as opposed to a Nord-like synth that's more bright and clear on the highs.
Apart from that, I think Bazille is indeed more precise when it comes to reseting the waveforms, fixing phase positions for the oscillators... I mean, I can get better kicks and bass and drums out of it, compared to ACE for sure...
Check out this preset:
https://meocloud.pt/link/07356261-71eb-46de-ad72-e64789d94f73/Kick.h2p/
nothing fancy going on, just a kick made with the filter modulated by an envelope that's triggered by a synced to tempo lfo, whose frequency you can speed up with the mod wheel. but I feel it shows how this thing can be precise!  |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 11, 2014 14:49
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On 2014-09-11 14:01, frisbeehead wrote:
I agree to! But that's similar to what you'd find with the Virus, it's got to do with the character of the thing, U-he is a bit Virus-like in that it tends more to the dark side, as opposed to a Nord-like synth that's more bright and clear on the highs.
Apart from that, I think Bazille is indeed more precise when it comes to reseting the waveforms, fixing phase positions for the oscillators... I mean, I can get better kicks and bass and drums out of it, compared to ACE for sure...
Check out this preset:
https://meocloud.pt/link/07356261-71eb-46de-ad72-e64789d94f73/Kick.h2p/
nothing fancy going on, just a kick made with the filter modulated by an envelope that's triggered by a synced to tempo lfo, whose frequency you can speed up with the mod wheel. but I feel it shows how this thing can be precise!
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Cool 
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woodster77
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Posted : Sep 11, 2014 20:04
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probably the best way to get an understanding of this is by just using simple sinewaves, instead of saws and fractal waveforms, a lot of harmonics in the signal wont show the spectrum of tones,
this vst is phase modulation, slightly different to fm in the fact that i produces more stable tracking but the theory is the same
subtle amounts of fm with various types of structure
1 mod 2 carrier
2 mod 2 carrier
even feedback (cross modulation) one osc to another then back to the origional osc
and so on,
will the filters let you pass controls or are they only in the audio path ?. ie low pass gate stuff (1 pole low pass filter and an amp chained with the same env)
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Sep 12, 2014 01:09
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yeah, but you can actually do both phase distortion and fm (as in audio rate pitch mod) with it! |
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 27, 2014 22:10
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guys do u still use this plug? didn t try much to do some leads yet but i find it fun for fx .
smart demo by uhe..once you made tons of presets with the months in beta you have to buy the damn thing ,anyway intro price always same as second hand if not cheaper with their plugs |
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 29, 2014 16:23
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 15, 2014 00:38
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 15, 2014 02:17
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have it too, and it s a beast,might be firts time i like the preset on a synth too, or that there is presets suited for psychedelic stuff.. lot of awesome one..
for now i find it s beast at fx,bells,fm leads, syncro style leads and more ...in fact it s very flexible and it can cover a lot more than i though at first.
the filter and the modulation on it sound good, very smooth buttery sound..fx with self oscilalting filter = smile (long time i didnt turn my frxs on that maybe why i m excited but the filter fmed seems to sound really good and it s the first thing that strike me on this plug )
what could be better? maybe the envelops for tight drums (didnt give a try yet but the envelops seems nothing special ,good but.. )and the sawtooth more raw |
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