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Suloo
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Posted : Nov 15, 2011 21:38
somebody wrote:
would someone be so good as to make initial patches for the 4 synths that are modelled please? (ir load the correction osc/filter/env)

thanks

It's not that easy...

The Minimoog should be obvious.

Juno 60 is DCO (only PWM and Saw) -> HP Post (no boost) -> LP OTA Ladder (rough) -> Analogue envs

Jupiter 8 is DualVCO -> HP Pre -> LP OTA Ladder (clean) -> Analogue envs

Jupiter 6 is DualVCO -> HP Pre -> LP OTA state variable -> Digital envs (Curve on)

Alpha Juno is DCO -> HP Post (no zero) -> LP OTA state variable -> Digital envs (Curve off)

MS-20 is obvious again, but doesn't have its own envelopes           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
Suloo
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Posted : Nov 15, 2011 22:49
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On 2011-11-14 18:15, demoniac wrote:
Very very FAT! Wow anybody found a way to make the oscillators stable for a classic kbbb bassline?





http://www.3amnoise.net/strict.h2p           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
Upavas
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Posted : Nov 16, 2011 08:02
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Djones
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Posted : Nov 16, 2011 19:41
Quote:

On 2011-11-15 22:49, Zork wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-11-14 18:15, demoniac wrote:
Very very FAT! Wow anybody found a way to make the oscillators stable for a classic kbbb bassline?








http://www.3amnoise.net/strict.h2p





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Suloo
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Posted : Nov 16, 2011 20:21
a preset for having everything stable in order to build a kbbb bassline..

you can work from there..           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
Djones
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Posted : Nov 16, 2011 20:53
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On 2011-11-16 20:21, Zork wrote:
a preset for having everything stable in order to build a kbbb bassline..

you can work from there..




Aah big thanks!
But what are the exact modifications you have done to this preset?
As I could nowhere find the oscillator phase-lock button.

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Edit, now I've tried it, it doesn't seem to be really stable after all.
PoM
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Posted : Nov 17, 2011 01:14
acutaly the only thing that need to be stable for kbbb is the phase of the osc and there is no way i have find to retriger it.(and it make sense it s not there beeing analog emulations,i doubt they would implement it but who know..if lot of user ask for it maybe..this thing would probably be the best bass synth on software imo..)

i think this synth have the best oscillator i have heard in softsynth..i was really septical at first but this time u-he made it ,i hope they give us a update to ace with the same code
demoniac
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Posted : Nov 17, 2011 05:49
Also full with character, nothing sounds like this...
yeah we will need a retrigger or something like that

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PoM
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Posted : Nov 17, 2011 14:47
yeah i like it, it thicken well the sound at lower setting, but i wish for a switch between this and the overdrive like on the phatty for acid/screaming sounds
Djones
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Posted : Nov 20, 2011 19:22
Quote from mr Urs himself at kvr:

'I'm slowly preparing myself to give in to the request of resetable oscillators though (none of our analogues does that... but hey...)
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 20, 2011 22:38
Djones cool nice to hear ! when it get implemented it gonna smoke for bassline...problem is everyone gonna use it as it piss on everyhting digital for phat analog bass
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Nov 21, 2011 00:08
This guy makes the fattest synths imo. Great tool ! Thanks for posting           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
demoniac
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Posted : Nov 21, 2011 00:17
Quote:

On 2011-11-20 19:22, Djones wrote:
Quote from mr Urs himself at kvr:

'I'm slowly preparing myself to give in to the request of resetable oscillators though (none of our analogues does that... but hey...)
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Then how was the bassline made before inventing digital and vst synths? (honest question, not a joke)

And yeah everyone is going to use it, but better use this one than alien303


          VA - Spiritual Science out now!
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 21, 2011 02:29
depending of the notes used, how they are sequenced and the synth patch you dont really need the osc to be retriggered, it become a problem with kbbb using mostly one note the lowest the bassline the worst it is..

take 5/10 minutes to sample 2 octaves so it s not really a issue ...sampling is the best solution in fact, as you don t want to waste one hardware analog mono synth just for a bassline when it can make great fx and leads.
PoM
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Posted : Nov 21, 2011 03:01
if i have time i will make a special one just for fun and upload it if i get good result, diva moog bass meet thermionic culture , problem is that all our softsynth leads will sound so thin in contrast to a huge bass like this

btw diva really make me want to get some hardware with how much cpu it takes...,i love the moog in it so i ll probably get a phatty ,to me it sound even better than diva from what i have heard of it but offcourse i will get diva too ,having that sound as a plugin and so much possibilty is just amazing...

think what u-he can do in the futur in plugins..they can make the best standalone filters (maybe they do already with zebra fx version but it will get better..) they can bring new emulation into diva or make some other best analog sounding plugins... they can bring that code slowly into zebra ..make a ace v2 (that would be amazing as it really feel it need a update after playing with diva,specially the osc to me...)smell good

or imo they should go dsp,offer a dsp platerform with real power and not a joke like uad, to make the best analog sounding plugins
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