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Troll Scientists - Sir Eel

a'damn
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Posted : May 30, 2009 07:57:55
Artist: Troll Scientists
Title: Sir Eel
Label: Exogenic
Troll Scientists Website: http://www.myspace.com/trollscientists
Exogenic Website: http://www.exogenicmusicgroup.com/

1. Disco Doctor 5:53
2. Fishermans Symphony 3:06
3. Follow the Sardines 6:19
4. Birth of Wainamoinen 4:59 (feat. Tim Lundblad on drums)
5. Gongo Party 3:57
6. Un Question Du Pop 4:49
7. Ajattara 3:39
8. Zemel Dance 8:54
9. Ziko 9:20
10. Witch Protector 8:22


You know, Troll Scientists are really good. Their whole "thing" is massively awesome. I dig it. A lot. Their first album, Useless Science, off of Space Boogie Productions was a simply awesome. I wrote at length about it here [ http://kpsu.org/node/24450 ]. Troll Scientists' new album takes that same awesome and does something even more awesome with it. Seriously. It is, the Last Train to Awesome Town.








Anyway, the new album basically retains all of those extremely psychedelic tones, pulses, noises, and harmonic styles that made you remember early Koxbox/Psychopod/Slinky Wizard energies on that first album. Then they go and Quirk them up a bunch. More various tempos, songs that might seem "too slow" or not have enough triplet bass lines. More stretches of sound for a different style of album. One that reminds you of the first, but feels a bit more grown and developed. It's aged like a fine single malt [ed note: lol. have i told you that i am the champion of bad metaphors?]. The whole thing is quite sSuIrRrEeEaLl.

And awesome.


So, just because the album is slightly more rounded with its story-like texture of sound, I don't want to imply that there are no more tracks fully delivering those trippy, psychedelic, black light floor killer'nesses for your dance floor any more. It's all there. Just intermixed with the other stuff. It's quite nice. Really. I think you'll like it. And if you don't like it, we obviously have vastly different opinions on good psychedelic dance music.

But the Troll Scientists are really good. Even if you think that we have different opinions on music, give this album a listen. It is really good. Massively awesome. De gustibus non est disputandum.

xoxox
-A'damn
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canyon-Kalle


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Posted : May 30, 2009 13:33
A bit of a let down really. I thought their deput was, well not perfect, but still a promising start and would've liked them to continue where they left with amazing tracks such as 'Vill Du Ha Luft'.

I find there's some good tracks and some average ones here to put it short. The most striking dissapointment is the loose concept of the album - the album has so many different type of tracks it doesn't feel like an "album" at all, but just a bunch of ideas collected on one cd. Also, there's only a few real psytracks here, which of I find Zemel Dance to be the highlight.

Listen before you buy is my advice.
Le Lotus Bleu
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Posted : May 30, 2009 14:09
where's the review?

no tracklist , is that post serious?

i mean "really good" 3 times &" awesome" 6 times, it's not constructive words, make an effort please & post directly the full lenght review here

To the isratrance team, i can understand, you want some people to write reviews for your own site (www.isratrance.com) but honestly, i don't think this kind of short false review are very helpful for the forum .          you can find easily all my psytrance & chill reviews on my blog at:
http://www.myspace.com/le_lotus_bleu
a'damn
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Posted : May 30, 2009 16:52
This isn't a review because it doesn't contain a tracklist? You can grab that from discogs or various other places on the Internet.

That middle paragraph says everything you need to know to either make you feel the way Canyon does, or to make you excited for the album.

"Anyway, the new album basically retains all of those extremely psychedelic tones, pulses, noises, and harmonic styles that made you remember early Koxbox/Psychopod/Slinky Wizard energies on that first album. Then they go and Quirk them up a bunch. More various tempos, songs that might seem "too slow" or not have enough triplet bass lines. More stretches of sound for a different style of album. One that reminds you of the first, but feels a bit more grown and developed."


That is exactly how the album sounds to me and I remember when Quirk's "Quality Contrl" came out a decade ago, it faced a lot of negative criticism and backlash as well. But damn, that album is oh so good.

So maybe Canyon isn't finding this one to be good, maybe you want me to describe at length with shitty pretentious verbiage every second of every song, but that is unnecessary.

Canyon thought the first album was lacking, add to that the new Quirk'd up second album and we have a final answer of Dislike. Which is what Canyon says, not into it.

Personally, I think the new album is the bee knees and am quite into it. But yeah, it isn't all bangers and mash. Nor is it supposed to be. It's a different album. I like that. If you don't like that, then you don't like that.           nlm - http://goaconstrictor.com v4.2
Le Lotus Bleu
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Posted : May 30, 2009 17:26
there's the tracklist on discog , each new release has the tracklist & a photo of the cover, check mate

My problem is not what you think of the album but how you wrote it (2 expressions repeated 10 times in a small paragraph...), for a start review thread, 4 lines explaining vaguely the content of an album isn't serious, just my view. It doesn't excite anything in me, maybe for others who know ...

About the full lenght review , i wanted to say that you were able to wrote one for their 1st album on your blog why not doing the same for the second (i'm sure you could have make a lil effort)?
          you can find easily all my psytrance & chill reviews on my blog at:
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razzz_
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Posted : May 30, 2009 17:34
I wonder why this is released on Exogenic Records??

The album is not that bad, but it is one of the worst releases this label did.           Ain-Soph (Trancebum Productions / Freakdance Records)
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a'damn
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Posted : May 30, 2009 17:49
Le Lotus,
Strangely enough, I put effort into this review. The over-the-top uses of "awesome" was kind of the point. It's also why I added the cheesy video for Last Train to Awesome Town (which fits better in the review as an embedded hyper link on the text of Lest Train to Awesome Town, but Isratrance doesn't allow that, so I had to improvise here). I just don't feel that every album needs a 6 paragraph dissertation, especially when this album is much like the first in so many of the same ways.

The big difference between the two is that this one has slower movements and more Quirk'ish behaviors. The hidden track is an example of the alienation that will put off some people. But it is quite a choice ending, IMO.

There was no need to write at great length about the fine details of this release because you can easily extrapolate the new album from the old with the information given. But I also don't want to give too much away. The people who are excited for this album should know that it was Quirk'd up and is a bit more slow and drawn out at times. But it was a very exciting album to listen to for the first time and be surprised by it all.

Very lovely journey.
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shahar
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Posted : May 31, 2009 00:06
I liked the review, much more interesting for me then the typical track by track long tedious reviews I often read here. Made me wanna check this out. Hopefully I find the time.....

I edited the original post to add the track list. That was lazy of you a'damn...           ---------------------------------------------
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Le Lotus Bleu
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Posted : May 31, 2009 01:20
when i say a full review it only means more sentences (at least one paragraph) than 4 poor ones & not a track by track one, i never asked for that, neitheir to last 2 pages.

For the rest you can't judge the quality of the review if you haven't at least listen to some sample to check the sounding... if you find the time lol


For that it would have be constructive to give some clues of the best tracks for example... you know the kind of thing you always find in a "decent" review , i don't say short or long or medium but "decent".          you can find easily all my psytrance & chill reviews on my blog at:
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a'damn
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Posted : May 31, 2009 09:06
People who think that there is a best track, think there is a worst track. People who think there is a worst track are constantly judging. People who are judging are not experiencing. People who are not experiencing are not living.

That entire concept of picking and choosing a favorite track is a strange concept. With an album like this, there is no best track. Each track is different for a different context and a different placing. I am not going to tell you what is good. If I had the power to do that, I wouldn't have to skip most psytrance parties because of the shitty full-on trauma Cult-of-Gil dark psytrance. That shit sucks. It is shit on my dick.

Me telling you my favorite track is absolutely pointless. It is 100% without merit. De gustibus non est disputandum. This entire discussion proves this concept yet again.

I have never thought of a review to be "decent" because it included a ****""""BEST TRACKK!!!!!"""**** piece.


If we want to get deep with this concept, we can extend this. The main problem with our world is that there is this constant Better v Worse struggle happening. Students are forced to compete against each other, rather than work together towards a common goal. Students have a constant tension regarding their education and progress (or even their sense of worth) versus that of the person sitting next to them. That type of competition does not foster, nor promote, a healthy collaborative community.

The 'clues' you seek are all answered. Seriously. If you buy the album, you will understand. Did you like the first album? Did you like Quirk, or are you okay with weird mixed-tempo?

I don't play One Set.
I don't only play FULL ON NIGHT TIME 145BPM GOA HAMMER YOUR NUTS OFF music.
I don't only play 135 BPM PROGRESSIVE MINIMAL CHUNKY FUNKY.

I play and listen to a wide scope. My mind does not, in any sort of context, compartmentalize music in a manner of which you are seeking in this review. It does not happen.

I understand your criticism to a point, however that little dig about a "'decent' review" is absolutely bullshit and -to me- shows that you have a rather sad way of experiencing the world. If you are always looking for the best and the worst, you are not actually painting your own picture.

That is shallow.
That is kind of a bummer.


And what is really sad is that I don't actually believe that this is how you are. I think you have been conditioned to seek these things out and to expect them. But I don't think you believe that this is actually the case. We all have a lot of deprogramming to do. We all are completely fucked by society and the media, but that doesn't mean we need to sit by and passively let it happen.

Here is my suggestion for "best" tracks: ALL OF THEM.
Seriously. I have listened to this album _a lot_ over the past week. I have never skipped a track, been bored by a track, wanted to hear a different track, or was let down by a track (except for when I need to get up from across the room and walk over to the CD player to hit 'play' to get the wonderful hidden track 11 to play. That is rather annoying. Silly hidden tracks). It is all great. All of it. But it is all different. The tracks are all different. If you only want one style of sound, yeah, you might hate half of this album. This is not something for me to care about. Your misgivings are not of my concern. I am here to tell you about my misgivings and my joys. This album is all a joy. To me. But I am just a person. Just as you are. My tastes are not yours. Obviously, my writing style isn't yours either. But . . . that is good. Not everything is a competition.

Life is about together, not against. Community, not segregation. Love, not war. My perspective of a what a "decent" review means is obviously different than yours. So, just wait around for another review. Or . . . even better . . . listen and judge for yourself. Don't let me decide for you.
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a'damn
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Posted : May 31, 2009 09:11
Oh, and sorry Shahar. It's been a while since I posted a review here. The tracklist skipped my mind. I figured people would go to the Troll Scientists' MySpace page or Exogenic site and see it there.           nlm - http://goaconstrictor.com v4.2
Le Lotus Bleu
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Posted : May 31, 2009 11:54
hey a'damn if you're not into giving favourites, no need to give a full explaination text for that, just tell you're not into it, ok.

Chill down

For the rest, your argue is "buy this album" instead of giving good tracks examples , it's quite pathetic because this is what your review should target ...

The aim of favourites tracks mate, is to help people with limited time, for example Shahar, & help them checking some choosen tracks & not the entire tracklisting fault of time in order to help them having an own idea of the album, you see

ps:i never talk about segregation, chill down, i explain you (& i try in a constructive way, maybe i failed here on the form) why i think your review is a bit "lazy" as said Shahar.          you can find easily all my psytrance & chill reviews on my blog at:
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Le Lotus Bleu
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Posted : May 31, 2009 12:40
Btw if you really want people to check the samples & buy it, you could at least give the direct links to shops of the album, like this:
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/exo/exo1cd039.html
http://www.beatspace.com/dettagli/dettaglio.asp?id=5044
etc...
          you can find easily all my psytrance & chill reviews on my blog at:
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a'damn
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 05:58
I was drunk last night when I got home and read that. It's all good mate
The "decent" dig made me get defensive.
lol


I drove up to a beautiful mountain today, covered in snow, and listened to this album again during the drive.

It still rocks my socks off.

Tracks 1 starts where the last album left off. It feels like a great intro into the new world of the Trolls.
Tracks 2 and 3 get a bit more bassier and start really fucking things up in a neat new way. I am very excited to drop some of these tracks on a nice sound system next weekend.
Then the middle is all slow. Downtempo, mixed tempo, weird bass and chill. Around track 8 it picks up again and starts to move you more and get those feet dancing.

Which is helpful for some, sure. But I am so very very happy/pleased/excited/delighted that I was able to experience this album without knowing much about it. I like surprises.

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Elad
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Posted : Jun 1, 2009 13:38
defintly top album this year!
we have here masterpiece nothing less.


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