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crackerjap
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 07:00
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the old goa parties used to have Camera Breaking Crew. photographers were given the option of giving up their film, or having their cameras destroyed.
apparently there were piles of broken cameras by the end of a big party.
its a bit mafioso, but maybe a good way to keep things underground. |
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mrtdeep
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 08:49
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well nodoubt everyone likes to look at pics taken at a party,however when the camera keeps flashing it realy irritates people who are really tripping hard.and moreover its damn invasive as some here mantioned earlier. well im not teling those people who love clicking to stop or something just that dont do it on the dance floor is not like some club or something.man just think of the people tripping hard and just realise if you were there and then someone flashed a camera rite in ur face will it not freak you out.
al i request of people doing this is dont do it on the dance floor or in the face.
all in all just have some consideration for your fellow trippers and trancers cause they are all in a state of trance.
Just my 2 cents..
BoooooM
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mrtdeep
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 08:51
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On 2005-10-04 07:00, crackerjap wrote:
the old goa parties used to have Camera Breaking Crew. photographers were given the option of giving up their film, or having their cameras destroyed.
apparently there were piles of broken cameras by the end of a big party.
its a bit mafioso, but maybe a good way to keep things underground.
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Nice idea Hahahahahaha 
"Cause we're living in a world of RULES breaking us down when they all should let us be." |
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microdotpsybaba
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 16:32
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On 2005-10-04 01:35, Nasos Tantrumm wrote:
I dream a dance floor of unity, a mass of people dancing to one rhythm, breathing in unity to the eternal beat.
well said nasos.. i concur a hundred percent.
take pics but nt at the expense of others.. if u have paid money only to take pics at a trance party then u might have wasted the money coz u r there for all the wrong reasons.. i noticed someone saying that the 'flasher' (so to speak) too paid teh same amount as everyone else did and he has the right to do what he wants to do.. now the question being does invasion of someone else's privacy one of the rights??
"You have the right to express yourself and create art as a photographer, videographer and/or audio artist."
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"You have the right to ask someone to stop taking a picture of you, recording your image or recording your voice in any way. However, keep in mind the nature of radical self-expression, capturing expression is a form of self-expression.
You have the right to know what someone plans to do with your image. "
~~Boom Shanti~~
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FaceHead
FaceHead
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 18:39
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so it seems we are all in some sort of agreement you really summed up both sides nicely micro, so dont get me wrong people im not one of the flashers ive brought a camera but never bothered to get it out because my mind was elswhere i was just put off by the militant comments and responded accordingly i am a semi proffesional photographer but i never do people unless asked to even without a flash having something pointed at you can feel intrusive and most times be it as well. so youre right all of you on a certain level and usually when that happens in a conversation its over.
thanks for entertaining my mind again.
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Gringoqueto
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 22:35
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I'm a trancer/partier. I'm also a photographer (amateur, anyway) and I hate flashes in the middle of the night especially in my face while I'm flailing to some sick psychedelic music.
So, when I'm taking photographs at night, I do several things. 1) I don't use flash (apologies for the times it went off by accident) and this makes the photograph much more challenging. Cam is particularly good at this - check out his photos on Mistress of Evil tribe. 2) I prefer the candid shots to the staged ones so many times I don't ask permission to take the shot, however, I always show the photo to the subject immediately and then ask permission to keep it. Sometimes they say no and I delete it right in front of them. Benefits of digital photography! 3) Other times I'll make it obvious that I'm about to take a photo and just watch to see if there is any signs of discomfort on the subject. If I even suspect there is discomfort, I don't take it and I move on.
It is all about respect.
Laughter is the shape that darkness took around the first appearance of light.
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KiloWatts
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 02:03
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Unfortunately, the second you take a picture of an event, you turn it into a spectacle - at least for a few minutes - and we all know we don't want a spectacle.
I remember being at a party recently, and that 6am moment came in all its glory, and smiling faces all around, cheering and acknowledgement that "we made it!", etc... but also a multitude of people with cameras, climbing up poles, crouching down in the middle of the dancefloor, snap-snap-snapping, and for those few minutes, we all unconsciously posed, aware that we were being watched, photographed, seen, etched into history.
Not a bad thing, but still a bit debilitating to the goal we strove to attain.
Everyone wants to see pictures, of course, because we want to remember those moments, those awesome moments - but also remember that photographs will still never be able to capture what goes on at these things. The event is about the journey inward, the unphotographable innards of the psyche, the deep exploration of body and spirit...
And to go along with what mrtdeep said, frankly I'm sure that some of us look a little funny while going through these excursions. Sometimes it's not exactly a photogenic moment (ie: flailing around seemingly posessed by *something*) That's certainly not a picture I would want to fall into the hands of my boss, or others...
But yeah, as Gringoqueto said, just be respectful - understand what's going on... |
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Liquid-Vision
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 22:44
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i dont think they're should be any rules about it but sometimes cameras really piss me the fuck off
its about common courtesy
We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home. |
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Cam
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 03:16
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Hello every one. I’m glad to see so many opinions shared surrounding this subject. It’s amazing to see how many people can communicate with one anther and stay on a respectful field of discussion. First I would like to acknowledge Nasos Tantrumm for starting the discussion, however if feel quite offended by the title you have given to this thread. The paparazzi in my eyes are scum; they have no respect for there subjects and sell the images for the benefit of themselves and there pocket. When you even joke about giving photographers like my self and others that name, we feel as if you are labeling out art; a joke for the benefit of vanity. However I understand if that was not your primary intention, yet using words loosely such as labels can cause controversy. Please watch what you say. Take note of others feeling.
Back on to the subject, I do have to say seeing the “good” things people do on the dance floor and in the surrounding environment during gatherings is amazing. All the colors, lights, dancing, and fire dancing make the environment at these gatherings a wonderful place to take photographs. However at night problems seem to be more prevalent. As technology grows it seems more common to find every one and their grandma to have a digital camera and to tell you the truth most of them don’t know a dam thing about them; except point and shoot. I have maid an effort for some time now to bring down the amount of flash use on the floor; for my self and others. I hate the flash too. Most of the time I use long shutter speeds and other tricks so I don’t have to use a flash and blind every one on the floor. I also wait for the crisp early light of the morning. That the best time to take pictures. Now I think the real problem is not with in all the photographer it lies with in the inexperienced and negligent camera owners.
A lot of people seem to be consumed with taking pictures of themselves, their friends, and the environment at these gatherings. Most of the time though, their photos don’t come out the way they anticipate. It sucks for them, it sucks for us, and it sucks for everyone. So here is a resolution. Make signs that say “no flash photography on the dance floor.” Of courts if the production company wants to post them. Remember most of the best pictures are taken in the day and early morning anyway. And the ones I take a night are dam hard to capture especially because I am using the light around me, black lights, fire lights, projectors light, moon light, and occasionally a flash.
In conclusion, I pledge to do what ever is in my power to make my photography more comfortable for everyone. If you don’t want to be in photos I will do as you request, with no question, I have done it before for others. If you see me around taking pictures or dancing, don’t be afraid to come up to me and talk to me about photography or any subject. I’m cool, I’m nice, and I like to converse with opinions.
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