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Kris_K
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 09:25
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This has become more of a relegion to me and i bet with many other people
Why cant it be a official relegion?
The Artists and Dj's can be called as the 'Learned people'
Record Lables as the 'business community' and the 'welfare associations'
Parties as the 'relegious meetings'
Something as 'Holy water'...
We have got all the things that is required for a relegion definition
What are your opinions?
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Stash
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 11:57
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why not have Kris_k for pope  
 At the end there is a DOOR & waiting for you on the other side of that door is either HEAVEN or HELL |
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inkubator
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 12:37
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music has for me nothing to do with religion, politic or any other group of people that want to control others life.
music stands for fun and emotions.
just gimme more of the same. its just a test! |
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nobody_4
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 12:47
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People behind Religion cause Religion to do more harm than good these days. And history tell you that it's been this way as long as mankind can look back. Religious "Brainwash" equals Power, Money and Wars. So why start a new religion? We got plenty as it is. 
Music can make people tune into their spritual side but at the end of the day music is only music. The "Religious feelings" are many times caused by various substances and mass-illusions (hysteria)
Keep music clean from Religion. Keep it simple |
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blueOrb
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 14:35
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a3k
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 14:39
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well, kris k, i´m with u in thix matter, but an advice, don´t bring thix ideas here or else u will b crucified  ...
people have different ideas of what they live into...i respect them all, i have my vision of what trance is...and people have their own....i give my life the meanin somnethin like related 2 relegion...but i know other people don´t have thix vision, wich is perfectly correct and normal...it´s a matter of what u are willing 2 belive...
it´s a matter of what u are willing 2 fight (in the good sense of course) and your beliefs...
stay cool!
rememnber that is u, who decide what u want 2 believe!
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A_Agonia
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 15:45
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Im pretty sure some of the Metal people , Rap or even house people also think and act the same.
kids need to belong to a movement, dress all the same, belive in a group and fight for comun ideas. Music for me is just fun 
If copy kills your music, then rip it 192k |
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Insomniac
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 17:10
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Paul Connelly wrote this article......
What Is Religion?
A number of modern scholars of religion have commented on the difficulty of defining what religion is. Over the centuries, influential thinkers have offered their own definitions, with greater or lesser degrees of assurance, but virtually all of these definitions have been found wanting by the majority of scholars. In some cases the definitions are too narrow, defining religion in terms of the speaker's religious beliefs or those of his or her culture and tending to exclude the religious beliefs of other cultures. In other cases the definitions are so vague and inclusive that they do not sufficiently delimit religion from other areas of human thought such as psychology, law, economics, physics, etc.
There are several problems in trying to make a definition of religion that is not overly vague and general, but that still is "inclusive enough" to not leave out any of the beliefs and practices that seem religious to most intelligent people. By their nature, religious beliefs tend to motivate other aspects of human behavior beyond those which would strictly be considered to be of religious concern. And the institutional structures which promote most of the so-called major world religions have taken on, in their periods of rapid growth, many other beliefs and practices that have little relation to the "core" religion but that helped a given institution to accomodate the political and social realities of its host cultures.
The ubiquity of religion seems to argue for some innate "religious instinct," on the one hand, while the diversity of religious forms and the frequent conflicts among them seem to argue that religion is more a socially acquired characteristic of human life, on the other hand. How do we resolve this conundrum?
The key insight in arriving at a resolution is that religion always begins in an experience that some individual has or that some small group of people shares. The response that this person or group makes to the original experience is what begins the process of interaction between the religion and the community. In extreme cases we can imagine a religion which lived and died unknown to all but the original experiencers, because their response turned inward and never created an interaction with others in the community; or a religion in which the response to the original experience so quickly and completely assimilated it to the traditions of the community that the germinal religion never acquired an independent identity. Most recognizable religions fall somewhere between these extremes, and thus acquire the identity by which we can recognize them.
So we can offer the following as a definition that takes the above factors into account.
Religion originates in an attempt to represent and order beliefs, feelings, imaginings and actions that arise in response to direct experience of the sacred and the spiritual. As this attempt expands in its formulation and elaboration, it becomes a process that creates meaning for itself on a sustaining basis, in terms of both its originating experiences and its own continuing responses.
Kris_K after reading this article you think the same??????
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Noized
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Posted : Jul 6, 2004 23:39
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I am a psy-priest, send me 10 dollar and your soul will be free of pain! 
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dNETv2
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 13:33
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Religion is stupid... Believe what you want to believe, and be who you want to be. |
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Vicky
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 14:40
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On 2004-07-06 12:47, Kris wrote:
People behind Religion cause Religion to do more harm than good these days. And history tell you that it's been this way as long as mankind can look back. Religious "Brainwash" equals Power, Money and Wars. So why start a new religion? We got plenty as it is.
Music can make people tune into their spritual side but at the end of the day music is only music. The "Religious feelings" are many times caused by various substances and mass-illusions (hysteria)
Keep music clean from Religion. Keep it simple
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nicely said
very true
so chill and
dance ------------------------------------
Beyond Logic!
Euphoric Meditation n' Beyond...
vicky@beyondlogic.net
http://www.beyondlogic.net/
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Dr_Faguntes
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 17:34
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Some drug addicts see their drug abuse as a religion too, they also call their taking-drugs-with-friends-ritual "religious meetings"... until they learn that life as lots of amazing things to offer besides that. Some can see that, some don't.
Get it? 
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Jul 7, 2004 18:45
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If you got to believe in something,why don`t believe in me??????
My fake plants died, because I did not pretend to water them. |
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Justin Chaos
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Posted : Jul 8, 2004 19:06
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Sometimes....you just HAVE to believe in something,anything at all any name it`s possible to don`t asume that the answer it`s inside of us.
My fake plants died, because I did not pretend to water them. |
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