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leviatan
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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 17:55
looks like somebody jinked us out this weekend.
i want to say to all of us : ppl are not stupid, they wont come to the same production again - if it sucked. (nevermind if the party was closed / the music was bad / the vibes were all wrong)
we should think about the way we promote our partys - maybe informationg is reaching the wrong destination?
hope that the producers will consider this thread and wont be asking for respect in anycase.
after all - the crowed and the ppl make the scene and the party alive - not the producers.
i say he who fluncked - should think twice why it happened.           naughty naughty naughty , you wicked old sumcka
leviatan
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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 18:59
when u pm to prompte it on the forum - that sort of false advertisment.
how can u know if a new prod. is good or bad ?
is it the line up?
today - with all the changing names of the productions (for commercial interests) - almost each one is new.
and the line up - could be great!          naughty naughty naughty , you wicked old sumcka
duplex
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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 19:10
thats the thing, that the new productions are really fucked up.

you can never compare old and origional Oma Coma, the kagans, itzik and david (rip) for the new orginizers.

90 % of the parties are bad, and fucked up (you can see it even in my reivew about the party that I was there yesterday).

they all think about money, like everyone else,
even the old producers,
but even though you think about it, there are ways to achive it.

and if you make smiles on peoples faces, this is the best way to achive it if you ask me.

cause next time you'll throw one, people will get there for sure....

take a moment to think about that .
OpuS
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Posted : Apr 9, 2005 23:37
of course every one want to make money for his hard work, the difference is there are ppl who wants to make tons of money for no work ...           Follow the footsteps ...

Senka tribe
Ananda604
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 03:40
First of all you can't tell lies when they are definitely incorrect!
if I wanted to do money , I'd give my party invitation on purpose to arsim and use 13,000 names SMS list .
What happened last night wasn't really our fault as we worked hard to promote this party to only good people . I didn't mind to have only 200 people , but no arsim ...please read my response on the Panica thread .
what people don't understand is that to do a party costs a lot of money . you must take between 60-70 to cover a party . unless you take 50 and 800 people arrive haha
I didn't come into doing parties to make money ,because there's not much money into it unless you do huge commercial arsim parties .
I want to do parties to make people happy and make people go out and not getting disappointed,that's my biggest satisfaction .
[quote]OpuS:I think that any producer who comes to amounts like 65% Arabs - faces - DLRs (like the Panica topic), has Money in his 1st pryority & dont really care how good the party will be. [quote]

why do you say things when you dont know any piece of information ?
1) I'd rather lose money but have a good party.
2)there weren't 65% arabs, there were 5 local arabs or were they druzim the security told me.
the others were simple shimons ! so please stop exaggerating because there were some unpleasant faces , there were many beautiful people who came despite the evil rumours of party shutting , and other beautiful people who came to support me personally , but I guess you see only the half empty glass , and maybe you should try to get into a different scene cause the trance scene is definitely not for you .
I dont expect you to write all parties are great, but I dont expect you to contempt and write everything was bad when party organizers tried to do their best .
most of party organizers do it for you and not for themselves (except the commercial bastards) so dont underestimate it and show a little respect to what people do for you! a lot of party organizers lose money and continue doing parties, why ? do you think they enjoy losing money ?!
so stop bitching all the time and just stop going to trance parties, or maybe that's your fun ...showing you know the best and that you were the best person in the party .
about pm messages here , some people here are really good , you can know them and their quality as you sit here through the yrs, they are the only ones worthy sending pm's .

ciao
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Candy
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 06:40
You have to understand that many times it's not the organizer's fault.
any times there are parties where the organization is not publishing it anywhere in the forum, giving flyers only to good ppl and yet there are still bad ppl and balloons that come to their parties. So how does this happen?

Well many times it's thanks to you. How? Many times you ppl want to show off with your knowledge of parties and want to "share" the information with others, so you post it. Maybe not in this forum which is highly moderated and such a thread not made by the organizers would be deleted on the spot. But there are other forums which are not moderated at all, such as Atraf forum for example, where you have no chance to get a party information post deleted.
So I suggest to every organizer to go into every Israeli forum during the week before his party and check if there is such a post and if yes, then react accordingly. These forums are: Atraf, Layla, Trancetribe & Psyheb.
About the balloons, many times they are tipped off by the security guards that get percentages from it. Yes, you heard it right.

So of course many times the organization is guilty of producing an amateur production without really knowing what it's doing. But as you see many times we ourselves help to the distruction of these events.
          Majority is never right!

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-Friedrich Nietzsche
sagireuven
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 12:25
leviatan-u know me 4 3 years i guess,
let me tell u something-u can say the organizers is wrong bla bla.
1st thing-may b ur right.sometimes organizers make mistakes(new organizers and older ones like moksha,ronen,avi,kav lashafan,panda,etc).
sometimes u can blame the organizers and that's fine,we take risks-we should care for the results.
so far so good(so what?:))
but my point is-the crowed can't blame the organizers all the time.the crowed should coaoprate! keep it hush! don't pass on everthing! new kids is in the scene and everythink is spreding away!
what should we,the organizers,do?
I'm trying 2 keep it hush as much as I can.
AND--I HOPE EVERYONE IS 2.

BaBuga.
Dark_Dork
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 14:29
Quote:

On 2005-04-10 06:40, Candy wrote:
I suggest to every organizer to go into every Israeli forum during the week before his party and check if there is such a post and if yes, then react accordingly. These forums are: Atraf, Layla, Trancetribe & Psyheb.



React accordingly? Seriously, what can they do? Suddenly change location?
karnaf
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 14:57
Quote:

On 2005-04-09 17:55, leviatan wrote:
i want to say to all of us : ppl are not stupid, they wont come to the same production again - if it sucked. (nevermind if the party was closed / the music was bad / the vibes were all wrong)



If that were true, so many party promoters would have disappeared from the scene. People have a very short memory in our scene (they have their reasons of course )

As to the pointed of jinxed parties - promoters should always check their promo lists (SMS, email, etc) to clean it from hazardeous ppl, and as candy said, they'd better check the promo forums on the week before the party. @Dark Dork : most forums will remove posts like that on the organizer's request.

Also, if organizers gave only enough amount of info about the party before, just tease, and give the full details at the end, there'll be less trouble. People will know that there is a party with DJ someone, but will have no phone number, no contact name, no location or anything.

peace.           Please REMOVE my cellphone number from any SMS spam list you may have. Thanks.

http://www.savetherhino.org
leviatan
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 17:57
well, as jef bridges said in big labowesky - NEW SHIT CAME TO LIGHT - with this hard beaking story of ananda - i would like to appologize if i hurt anybody feelings about his efforts - but again: the efforts were not seen at that party.
how did all that crowed came? that remains a mistery...
          naughty naughty naughty , you wicked old sumcka
Candy
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 18:26
Quote:

On 2005-04-10 14:29, Dark_Dork wrote:

React accordingly? Seriously, what can they do? Suddenly change location?



Contact the site admin and ask to delete the post for example.
If it's in a site that does not have any moderating like Atraf, then do selection on the phone first before he gives away the number of the infoline.
This is what I mean by "acting accordingly"
          Majority is never right!

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yossi
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 18:34
y not just start picking your parties and not go to every sms or email or what ever info u get?
          if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
leviatan
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 19:07
whow, thats a comperhansive thought. if a man would go to each sms or email he got - he would be in 5 places in the same time - and as u might know from the return to the future movie : 2 BODYS CANOT OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE THE SAME TIME.
really yossi - do u think we dont think twice and just go to the first invitation we get?!?
          naughty naughty naughty , you wicked old sumcka
Ananda604
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 19:20
look leviatan, I didnt send sms at all
and lots of arsim called me told me they got sms about my party, "what the fuck ?!"I shouted at them, "I didnt even send ssms!!!"
so this is fucked up and its not my fault for sure as I simply didnt send any ! haha
someone tricked me, tricked me hard ...and he can go to hell with it, cause I am not giving up .
I can assure you my next party with mekkanikka will be 150% better cause mistakes have been learnt.
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yossi
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Posted : Apr 10, 2005 19:51
@ leviatan - dunno... all i know is that i havent been in a BAD party for a long long time.


i guess we all know about the same parties...
so how is that?
          if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
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