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"The security is not going to be friendly with you" tell me your opinion ppl!
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yellow1
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 16:40
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I dont think the problem is whether they search or not at the entrance, but they way they behave inside the club, like they fucking own the place and they are the police....I dont use drugs and I still found it very annoying to see security people catching guys from the neck and drag them out and entering like furious into the toilets and slamming the doors to see what was going inside!
I had a friend of mine who I took for the first time to a party and was really shocked...If now the promoters WARN even before the event that they the security wont be friendly, just imagine what will happen there...I think thats a very good reason for me and my friends NOT to attend the event... |
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karnaf
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 17:03
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I don't know about Greece, but from my personal experience in Israel and other places, I tend to agree with griniaris and the rest who oppose it.
I find it in many times an annoying thing, very disturbing to privacy. It doesn't matter if you have something to hide or not, it is taking your freedom and privacy that disturb me.
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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 17:44
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When you will see neraida tomorrow you will understand that your investment has to be PROTECTED
The place is beyond any of anything you ever saw in Thesaloniki till now
Instead of arguing for search in the entrance
,take a look tomorrow at the enviroment inside neraida,and you will be the first who will want to KEEP this going forever and ever...
So once more.
The security will not allow BY ANY MEANS ,to anyone,to destroy what the majority of salonika ppl has achieved.
They will not be friendly to any one is breaking the law of our country against drugs.
You like it or not...take it or leave it 
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Karnaf your words are xtremely rud and way off the Greek reality.
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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 17:53
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Griniari
Don't play with words
The security will not be friendly To anyone who is breaking the law regarding drugs.
If you don't get it ...sorry it's your problem
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 19:01
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Eternal Motion,Karnaf gave you an example of how some party promoters work and think worldwidely BUT didnt said that you act like them concerning the drugs and security issue.
And Karnaf said in the first place that he doesnt know the Greek reality THOUGH according to my experience his words are not far away from the reality i have seen the last years all around Greece from some 'promoters'....
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karnaf
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 19:37
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I have edited my post since it appeared to have offended others. What was written there is from my knowledge of cases in countries other then Greece. I can't say what is the case in Greece.
I appologize if I've offended anyone. I hope the causes for searching ppl in Greece are more noble than in other countries.
btw, I haven't been to Greece since 1991 
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XrTC
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 21:25
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eternal, u say NO DRUGS INSIDE, right? what u CAN do about it is:
a) be more careful at the entrance. although not possible to be 100% sure that people won't take drugs inside, u lessen the possibilities and there will be less need to have "unfriendly" security.
b) give the chance to people to go outside whenever they want. some people want to smoke ok? let them go out, have their joint and then come back. i've experienced situations that security wouldn't let people out until 5 or 6am in the morning, which IMO sucks big time. again, this way there will be less need to be "unfriendly".
c) when u find someone "who is breaking the law regarding drugs" u can easily take him out of the venue and simply refuse to let him back in. there's absolutely no need to be "unfriendly" (u say) or violent (i say)...
u said u are only trying to protect the place. ok, fair enough. but think again, are you sure this is the right way? remember, violence will come back X2. if you have to be violent to achieve it, then something is deffinetely wrong.
p.s. this is only my personal view. i would never raise my kids by beating the crap out of them, but some will think it's not wrong. anyway, eternal, you were trancers once. think that way for a sec.........
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Tralala
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 23:06
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On 2004-10-22 21:25, XrTC wrote:
c) when u find someone "who is breaking the law regarding drugs" u can easily take him out of the venue and simply refuse to let him back in. there's absolutely no need to be "unfriendly" (u say) or violent (i say)...
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I think thats the whole point of this subject...is someone using drugs??OK, calmly take him out and never let him in....whats the point of posting beforehand that the security will be unfriendly???People just get annoyed and irritaded by that...Absolutely no need to act violently on anyone.... |
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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Oct 22, 2004 23:45
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xrtc what makes you think that we are not still trancers?
IMO a trancer-promoter is the best combination...
So i ask back to you:wouldn't be better if trancers start to think like promoters? 
It is in their hands actually to promote and protect their music scene in the end.
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sahedelic
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 00:59
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i believe that neraidas security doing great job,
ofcource the must be more agressive because when your brain is burn you doing stupid things,
keep it up guys
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 01:57
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Sahedelic like i said before they can be more careful BUT noone can be more aggressive towards others cause this is ILLEGAL!
Aggressive means attacking people you know
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Frenji
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 07:38
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i have a question to the promoters :
do u have ever seen the security guys at the door had find drugs on their searches ?
if yes how often thats happening and what was their reaction ?
i am asking this cause i am really curius if this way with security works really... |
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eternal motion - SG
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 09:53
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On 2004-10-23 07:38, Frenji wrote:
i am asking this cause i am really curius if this way with security works really...
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It works at a very good percentange in plenty of ways.
They even found a gun once for example.
some ppl even turn and going out when they realise that they have to face body search.
You all have to realise that strict security has been established for protecting the event.
plenty of times they have to deal with criminals,or even just stupid kids who think that they live in Amsterdam
Nothing more or less
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Alex Roudos
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 13:11
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Hello everyone and greetings from Amsterdam.
Security is necessary not so much to prevent the use of drugs inside a party(if anyone wants to pass drugs he can do it anyway, unless he's known "dealer" so he doesn't get in in the first place) but to bring the missing balance back and the feeling to everyone that there is some control about this matter.
We all know that if anyone wants to use drugs in a party he can always find someone to buy, who'll already be inside and looking for customers.
My opinion is that there will never exist a 100% drug free party unless all drugs just disappear like a miracle from all over the world. And don't forget that the guys that are above any suspicion are the ones that always do and have drugs in parties.
So the whole problem would be the quality of the security. How good they are on spotting dealers or users inside the party and most importantly how would they behave when they find someone selling or using drugs.
Even here in Amsterdam, there's a lot of security in all the major clubs and events.
Many clubs have metal detectors for guns, knives and after you pass the detector you are always being body searched. And noone complains, because they know that's the right thing to be done in order for their own safety to be protected. But at the same time the behaviour of the security are strictly pro and kind. And the same stands when they find you using drugs(not joints of course) inside. They ask you very politely to please leave the club or the event. They call you "Sir" and they never touch you(unless you resist and get aggressive). They just escort you outside the club and that's all.
Of course this is what's happening in Amsterdam which is another planet regarding drugs. I don't know how it is in the other european countries, but i think the guys here have found the right way and this tactic should be tried to be followed. |
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XrTC
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 14:15
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On 2004-10-22 23:45, eternal motion wrote:
xrtc what makes you think that we are not still trancers?
So i ask back to you:wouldn't be better if trancers start to think like promoters?
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first of all the fact that you are not thinking like a trancer and deliberately using aggressive security.
second, u don't comment on my whole post but on what's written in the PS. i tried to present you a way to achieve what you want without the need to be unfriendly. of course i was ALSO thinking as a promoter when i was making these suggestions.
i don't understand why you insist SO MUCH on this "unfriendly" security. it would only make sense if you were stupid, which i really don't think applies in your case. since there IS another way, can you explain why you keep defending your original plan?
p.s. for the last time i am saying that i am not suggesting the security should not be doing their job, just that they can do it humanely (like roudos said it's being done in amsterdam). they can do it not cos they are more educated on drugs, but because they know how a human being should treat another......
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