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the real psytrance society

MercuryFall
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Posted : Jan 9, 2006 12:49

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so ppl, in my opinion its all about maturity.do u use all those xperiences that u got from listening to psy in a productive way?has Psy generated new ideas as a way of living and thinking or u r being psychedelic only at the parties?
r u a true ambasaddor of this culture or not?
I believe that there are some ppl outhere who r trully being psychedelic and be positively creative for the common good at the same time and I believe that they r the true psychedelic society?
do u have any example of a person that i was just described?








Wow! I couldnt agree more!!!!

An exemple, as the legend wants it, is Bill Gates and the Microsoft company: It's said that they invented their solutions after taking LSD, and that the microchip was also invented this way: the LSD permitted people to connect and imagine the microscopical world in details.

These were real psychedelic ambassadors, and they changed the world. Anybody using a microchip in anyway is using a LSD-induced invention. Spooky, hu?
andrejcid
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Posted : Jan 9, 2006 13:52
elitism in action here ay?....

ganja my man, u really honestly do NOT make any sense. according to u, there is the 'real trance ppl' (what a load of bs) who are different but undeffineable, and the rest of the world's population who are just the ordinary siners or the 'new trancers'.....?!?!?!!!
in relation to the undescribable feelings and experiences that make one a 'trance person', as u mentioned earlier...just want to ask u how can it be that a PERSONAL 'feeling' u cant describe yourself is experienced by the other so called 'true trancers'?

as far as my opinion is conserned...
'real trance ppl' are those who consider themselves as such, those who praise themselves above the others in terms of their trance music 'knowledge'...in other words, they r egoistic elitists that like to be categorised with an idealised status which they dont seem to realise how stereotyped it is. they are ppl whose abilities in showing their personal values and skills in the real every-day world are defficient, so they seek for an easy boost of their fragile ego by overestimating the meaning of their seemingly eccentric and 'endless guru-knowledge' related to trance music.
its so easy to be a psichedelically&spiritually correct 'real trance person'.....and ooh how much I deslike them and/or being one myself.

why aiming to become(or define) the 'real trance person' when u can just enjoy yourself for the reason u actually like being involved with this music (whether thats the sounds, parties, drugs, ppl.. doesnt really matter)
          Why u little !!!
DETOX
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Posted : Jan 9, 2006 19:45
I just buy my music,enjoy it at home and clubs without taking any substances,spread the music to my friends who are into other kinds of music,travel abroad for parties and keep in touch with other people all around the world that listen to this music,keep getting informed on our small scene through magazines and the internet and sing Purple And Lunar-Subtle Thrust every time i take a shower.

Am i psychedelic enough?           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Pt.
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Posted : Jan 9, 2006 19:51
The "real" psytrance sociaty doesnt geek on forum boards, I can tell you that. The "real" psytrance sociaty doesnt even know the names of all the music they listen to is, they just find tripperfriendly music and go with that on their trips. The "real" psytrance people looks more like trolls and elfs. Stomping and pumping to a magical sound.

the real psytrance society is dead, but still alive, hidden.

...
Psy_mystic
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Posted : Jan 9, 2006 21:27
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On 2006-01-09 19:51, Kire-naj wrote:
The "real" psytrance sociaty doesnt geek on forum boards, I can tell you that. The "real" psytrance sociaty doesnt even know the names of all the music they listen to is, they just find tripperfriendly music and go with that on their trips. The "real" psytrance people looks more like trolls and elfs. Stomping and pumping to a magical sound.

the real psytrance society is dead, but still alive, hidden.

...




Right on my friend!           "Detox is for queers"
ganjagil
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Posted : Jan 9, 2006 21:40
The thread should not be called like this because it makes trance people look like some higher kind of people while all we are talking about here is the usual difference between people in music tastes and life! The real pystrance people, the enlightened ones or something hehehehe I do not agree with this kind of thinking at all...but what is true is that Trance people are different than the people going to a festival today! That's for sure!

Bom
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Jan 9, 2006 22:26
IMHO The real trance ppl live in the Amazonia, Africa, Asia in small tribal gatherings... They are ppl who have embrace this way of living for thousands of years. Ppl who like in the here and now and who have an spiritual connection to their surroundings. And I think the Utopia for psy trancers is a balance between this incredibly successful way of living, technology and mysticism. All danced and celebrated in the shape and form of a psychedelic rite of passage.

The ppl who are true to the spirit of the trance dance experience learn an alternative perception of the universe, as senses melt down, the mind enters a hypnotic state and centers, and for a second you and everything, are one with all existence. The connection of music, meditation, spirit, trance and dance is one of the most ancient in human kind... And for me personally I am glad we can experience it.

True trancers are those who believe in our interpretation of this experience. There is no pattern, no commonality, no equation which can define it, it is as human as it gets: a feeling... a feeling that speaks truth and brings the best in ourselves.

At least this is my interpretation.
EYB
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Posted : Jan 10, 2006 00:30
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On 2006-01-09 11:52, ganjagil wrote:
To Eyb:

You have no idea what we are talking about so stop telling me that i do not make sense cause you have not the slightest clue of what is psychedelic trance!



Why shouldn't i tell you that u make no sense to me if u don't do so?

U say i have not the slightest clue of what psychedelic trance is. Maybe i have another point of view then u, please tell me what u think what 'psychedelic trance' is.

I know for myself what psytrance is, psytrance as music and as a state of mind. And i don't know why u think i wouldn't know it, just because i see your 'real psytrancer'-statements as wrong and meaningless statements, especially coz u can't define the difference between a 'real psytrancer' and a 'fake psytrancer'.


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As you said you know "lot of freaks that are deep into the music but they give a shit of 'trance'. They want to party and want drugs, thats all" That is basically all the world man, real trance people are few because they are different!



What is this difference? Why do u say they, whoever it is, is different?
Are they better or smarter or what?
And don't say they are more psychedelic, without explaining it in this context of ur use.

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Anyway you will never understand what we are talking about because your new and all you think about is critisizing other people even though u do not have a clue!




Yes u r right, i don't understand u. And therefore u r write to me in an attacking way. Is this ur 'real psytrance'-spirit? Ok then i don't even want to be a 'real-psytrancer' at all.

U say i am new? Do u know me at least a little bit? No u don't. I am new in the scene for almost ten years and i have no clue. But i know that the way u thinking, the way in which pseudo-elitists are thinking, is not the way i want to be. And if i critize here something i do it because i think there is something wrong, u need to accept different peoples view on things and please try to view objective ur statements.
I also have to learn all the time, i am also often wrong, and i am happy if people help me with their critics.
If i critized u it wasn't a personal attack.


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happy search for Psychedelic Trance man!



Thanks

Even if i don't have to search long time.
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ganjagil
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Posted : Jan 10, 2006 00:31
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On 2006-01-09 22:26, offthenutboom wrote:
IMHO The real trance ppl live in the Amazonia, Africa, Asia in small tribal gatherings... They are ppl who have embrace this way of living for thousands of years. Ppl who like in the here and now and who have an spiritual connection to their surroundings. And I think the Utopia for psy trancers is a balance between this incredibly successful way of living, technology and mysticism. All danced and celebrated in the shape and form of a psychedelic rite of passage.

The ppl who are true to the spirit of the trance dance experience learn an alternative perception of the universe, as senses melt down, the mind enters a hypnotic state and centers, and for a second you and everything, are one with all existence. The connection of music, meditation, spirit, trance and dance is one of the most ancient in human kind... And for me personally I am glad we can experience it.

True trancers are those who believe in our interpretation of this experience. There is no pattern, no commonality, no equation which can define it, it is as human as it gets: a feeling... a feeling that speaks truth and brings the best in ourselves.

At least this is my interpretation.



Man thanks a million this is what i wanted to mean in my posts! absolutelt really nice words explaining the true psy experience!

Boom
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ganjagil
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Posted : Jan 10, 2006 00:38
At EYB :

Sorry man but every time i post something you are here to tell me i do not make any sense and now i think that maybe its my english!

Bom
ganja           Your sound, is your music, is your soul keep them all on the right track!

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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Jan 10, 2006 01:52
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On 2006-01-09 19:45, DETOX wrote:
I just buy my music,enjoy it at home and clubs without taking any substances,spread the music to my friends who are into other kinds of music,travel abroad for parties and keep in touch with other people all around the world that listen to this music,keep getting informed on our small scene through magazines and the internet and sing Purple And Lunar-Subtle Thrust every time i take a shower.

Am i psychedelic enough?



Detox with those post u r downgrading your status and the topic.This is not a "how psychedelic r you" topic.I can assume how much u like psychedelic trance from the quality of the EP releases and from the way u stand next to your label's Dj when he's (probably) playing your track selections but anyway ...
there are ppl out there who broke the barriers of Work all week - comes saturday - go to a party - dance - chill out - sleeep -go to work.they practice psytrance as a way of way of life and I just want to know which are their achievements till now.Is psytrance a culture based on an ethic code with principles and rituals or it's just entertainment.Is all this psytrance mummble mummble for real or we are just giving ourselves an allibi for our immature intepretation of life?
The bill Gates example is nice but not very true to my eyes . Those kind of things don't happen under the E man. It took bill gates years of learning and experimenting until he comes up with the windows concept and I don't think that Bill was a dude when he was a student.
and offthebottom respect u have a very positive interpretation concerning the subject.




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Pt.
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Posted : Jan 10, 2006 13:59
The real psytrance sociaty takes psychedelic substances
idka
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Posted : Jan 10, 2006 14:38
silly me!
i thought the trance community ppl have mythical appearence, they come from the woods on suterday's sunrise to give their happy n loving vibes to the world by performing their uniqe tribal ecstatic moves
just before disappearing back into the woods on sunset. (They dont have to go back to their routine and boring everydays life on sunday morning)

i think that this argument is very interesrting butt no longer relevant.
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Jan 10, 2006 22:21
I think it is very relevant
psychedelicious


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Posted : Jan 11, 2006 01:29
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On 2006-01-02 21:05, ganjagil wrote:
The definition of a real trance person cannot be really defined, nowadays i think that every person has his own evolution in music. I think the only way to understand what is in reality trance is only through the music, how much you can feel every sound. Were do you go with the music, it's all a long process of really loving the music so much that it's like in your veins or something. The definition is definatley undescribable!

Bom
Ganja





brilliant brilliant ;-)
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