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Hg
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Posted : Nov 4, 2003 01:46
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(ALL IS IMO)
It's been a loooong time since I went to a one-day party here in Brazil. imo they suck! For the past I dont know what time, I realized that organizers succeed in making a joke out of trance. I see terrible venues and expensive prices. Overcrowded parties and shitty djs. Cheesy music and a massive number of people that goes to take drugs. I no longer see my friends going to parties, they gave up! They dont like to go to parties anymore and so do I.
There's a culture of mass propaganda concerning what was once called a movement... An overpopulation of djs... An over-over-population of drug takers on parties. Hyperpopulation of money-seekers and shitty sets.
To tell you the truth, I want this "fiesta" to be over as soon as possible. But I know it's a stupid thing to wonder... what it used to be for me is already over! As for the festivals, not yet! In some festivals we can still find some of the things we are looking for, hear good music and party with friends.
Even this forum... we dont have any thing to say, it's like everything was already said, the moderators dont discuss anymore and dont really care. This room became a place of self-promotion and promotion of parties... Every single weekend there are millions of parties everywhere, organizers spending money to bring live acts that will bring the greatest number of people to their psy-what parties.
The people are now facing that old "full-on vs. progressive" deal... Arght, i'm tired and it's been a long time since i lost faith on these parties. Yes I love the music still go to some of the festivals and look forward to see some of the lives that come to Brazil. On the other hand... to me most of it's all over! My fears became reality!
How long will it take for "Tranci" to cool down?
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V.O.R
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Posted : Nov 4, 2003 02:22
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it is sad indeed to see what we like fucked up like this...
I wish I would not, but I have to agree with you...
what to do, man?? any suggestion? 'cause just complain is not the best thing to do as well...
best regards,
vor
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Hg
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Posted : Nov 4, 2003 02:34
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Indeed vor, I refrained 1 million times from writing about this because I dont know what to do. The fact is that lately I can easily count a vast number of bad things that are happening and only a very small number of good things.
what to do? 2 cents (just wondering now)...
*Take trance away from the big cities. Brazil is a huge country and we could do parties in other states liks Tocantins, Mato Grosso, in the northeast, as well. I have great hope on the new year's festival at Bahia. This, plus a reduction in the entrance ticket could bring back some people to trance - that's my major concern! And YES take some people away from it... Less advertisements...
I dont know. People would have to get together and figure it out like in those good old days "Let's do a party like this, a trance party!" "It's going to be difficult because no one will come..." They rocked!
respect!
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Lucas Aly
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I agree with your words shrOm. One-day parties has no long significance. But i think that they should not be extinguished. If there is a public for this kind of party (that nowadays is just like any other party with the difference of being outdoor) and if this public really enjoy it, i think they could continue making it. Imo, one-day parties have lost almost all their "context" and "magic".
The point you said about the forum. I must agree that our Brazillian section (specially) has become a Party Promotion section... We see no discussion about nothing here and as you said, it seems we have discussed about everything during this years. A pitty.
I'm on this br-trance list of chaishop, i confess that i read more than write, so i can consider myself guilty too for this "lack of information" and i think that is one of the only places where i see some real exchanging information about psychedelic trance and other sorts of electronic music.
And to finish up. Yes, Brazil is a hell of a big country. We don't need this "Milk & Coffee politic" in psytrance. I could write here a list of beautiful places for producing parties in Brazil. But it's not the case. The fact is organizers could start making parties far away from the "Metropolis". Uniting real trance lovers for reaching the destiny of the parties and preventing does one-day-party-trancers to get into there (not like they weren't allowed but i think you got my point).
PSđ: After finishing writing i see that i almost repeat what you said shrOm. Sorry for it lol  . But that's another proof that i agree with most of your words.
PSē: I think we could have more discussion here in the forum. People, when you have a doubt about any psytrance project or some e-music info, something you find interesting talking about, don't be afraid in writing it and answering with your own opinion. I know we got some special sections here in Isratrance for this topics and i don't know if what i am saying is illegal hehehe ( fact is that i have never read the rulles of isratrance, sorry  ). But i think is a nice way of taking off this sensation of "emptyness".
Peace.
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rastapsi
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Posted : Nov 4, 2003 15:47
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well said my friend.. but not unexpected...
it s normal from all types of idealism, and way of life to pass thru that..
first the initial fase, then the popularity, the the kaos, the shity time, the boom, over populated.. but after that, and we all hope soon, the declination to restart all over..
life comes with cyclis.. bad/worse, poor/rich.. and those type of things..
peace to all 
the thing is... nothing is too serious to be taken too serious ehehe |
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Drope
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Posted : Nov 4, 2003 18:02
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Shrom,
When I read the title of this thread I said... Oh god, shrom lost it hahaha But ur post is right. We just canīt let it be. I hate one day parties as well, they just donīt cut it for me anymore... But the newcomers, the invaders, should be calmly cooptated to the tranceīs original state of mind. We must strive. If we just give up, they will have cooptated us...
And yes, after the storm...
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Hg
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Posted : Nov 4, 2003 20:05
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there's always sunlight... This is when the pop pops.
Anyways... another point, I cant enjoy myself during the day as I did before... I'm becoming a night person. At least i dont see the faces during the night and the people dont see me. Am I becoming evil??? The heavy atmosphere is in fact really friendly and enchanting... girls look better...  how nice!
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Drope
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Posted : Nov 4, 2003 20:40
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When I first took a change from being mostly a nightperson to a dayone I used to say daylight was specially for when u like what u see around u... And darkness was for not seeing an unpleasant reality.
maybe u just feel reality ainīt that nice anymore...
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full_on
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Posted : Nov 5, 2003 01:50
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Well said guys...
Throw a party is not easy... In fact, throw a good party and loose no money is very difficult.
The best one day parties IMO are private, with people who really is there to enjoy the music, the deco, the friends and the vibes. But it's very difficult to do... Well, unfortunately I don't have any solutions...
 Well, shrOM, you're at Brasilia, did you went to the "Welcome to the Earth" party this weekend? The ticket costed R$ 5,00. If you where there, please comment it (in a pm, if you want).
Respect!
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...Be gentle with the earth...
...Dance like nobody's watching...
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Mogg
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Posted : Nov 5, 2003 02:28
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hi shroom
iīm from portugal and just want to say that here itīs the same thing!
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rastapsi
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Posted : Nov 5, 2003 13:03
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it s the same in all over the world.. welcome to the century of eletronic things.. where machine is start to think for the humans.... trance wouldn t be apart..
BUT.. i see a tiny little light..
the thing is... nothing is too serious to be taken too serious ehehe |
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Nov 6, 2003 03:43
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well, trance is still very underground in the US. small parties, mostly good vibes, sometimes very spiritual. but I see signs of it getting big, like it is in Brazil. we want to spread the word, we want everyone to love the music. but the music is not for everyone.
But maybe if DJs play difficult music, evil night time trance like Damage, or Grapes of Wrath, the ravers will be turned off because it's not pretty, it's not very melodic, and hard to listen to on Ecstasy. :?: it's similar with dark techno progressive like Midi Miliz. The most psychedelic music is not the music for most people, imo.
my 2 cents
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Posted : Nov 6, 2003 10:35
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I guess what we need in Brasil is new stuff.. ppl who cares about psychedelic music and it's evolution...
What r u guys complaining about? what do u expect from this parties if they r always the same? always the same popular dj's.. and why is that? cause that's what is "killer" and that's what "bombs" the dance floor..most ppl in brasil doesn't care about the quality of the tracks they r playing or they r listening to... lots of shitty mp3 dj's on big parties... and always the same ugly fluffy full on... always the same producers.. how many times can ppl see gms and skazi and atomic pulse and astrix in one year? DAMN! what we need in brasil is more information.. and open ur minds to the new stuff... like dimitry said we need stuff for NON XTZ LOVERS, intelligent new music like g.o.w, texas faggott, squaremeat, salakavala, shiva chandra and MANY MANY other brilliant ARTISTS!some stuff u've never seen in brasil before and i'm pretty sure most ppl in here never even heard about them... i had the chance to see texas,g.ow and squaremeat live and damn it's fantastic and inteligent!! differently from all this comercial xtz stuff that doesn't "grow up" cause they found the exact way to make money... that's why most of their tracks r the same.. and we r always listening to the ugly rock remixes they make... cause that's what makes money...
the psy ppl r not going to parties anymore, we r not coming to this kind of forums anymore because there's nothing new there for us... our place is becoming a crowded place full of xtz ppl...
i'm pretty sure that if brazilian ppl begin to know new stuff we can make a better scene and leave all this ugly stuff behind for the stupid ppl... anyway i don't mean to be rude... altough i might "sound" a bit rude but that's the way i am...
and by the way.. what does the police has to do with this? how do u think they could help us? like they do in israel staying all night on parties or coming by the morning to close and send everybody home? hehehehe don't think so...
IMO the answer for our problems is only one: Evolution!
 
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Mark(Dalmat)
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Posted : Nov 6, 2003 15:13
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i agree with u Duby....im not living in brasil but i think the partys there just full on no night dark music...
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Drope
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Posted : Nov 6, 2003 16:36
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This is in the way of becoming a full on vs something war...
I find it very said to see pp arrogantly saying that they hv evolved and who didnīt is shitty pp.
And yet yes, I like creepy night music... full on is a very stupid name... I like fullon and donīt call it fullon any more... yet donīt like fluffy stuff...
Specially housy proggy pseudo-psy music!!!
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