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segment 7
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 11:13
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On 2009-03-24 09:31, Login wrote:
I would tell you a simple argument why it sacares me.
because even if its still a democracy we already in our countries suffer from a problem well rooted in democracy: ¿ho w do you balance the preference of so many people?
The more people is going to be represented by a goverment the less an individual claim values. Dissent becomes harder and harder.
Imagine what politicans will have to do to have people form india, iran, us and japan happy all at the same time, and how many people will get upset.
The smaller the community is the better goverment it has, look at switerland, or the nordic countries people has more power over their politicians.
In fact we should go the pther way, fragmenting states all over into smaller territories so everyone can have a bigger say on the system they want to live in, and eventually move to another if they dont like it.
A liberal archipielago is what I dream of, where communist, capitalists, ortodox etc can have the country of their like with out violating others right to choose.
Imagine, one day we will have Psyland, where all trancers will live happily using drugs and partyng all day.
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very, very well said 
  Projection makes perception. The world is what you gave it, nothing more than that. It is a witness to your state of mind, the outside picture of an inward condition. As a man thinketh, so does he perceive- Anonymous
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XuN
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 15:18
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On 2009-03-23 20:36, mk47 wrote:
Ok then , im no expert on history , but just for the sake of argument , why should it `scare` anyone if suppose one day there is a unified world govt , hey .. we pay our takes to our governments , effectively making us slaves anyway , why should it matter if some time down the line were paying taxes to xyz bank or person , whats so scary ?
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What usually happens when you centralise power? (back to hitler  )
And when we have a monetary system that seems to be in control of the governments, then we do not have democracy. Then it's only corporate intrest governing the human affairs. And that does not include ethics or moral, because in a monetary competetive system, those factors are simply not affordable.
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Aluxe
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Posted : Mar 24, 2009 22:51
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why should it `scare` anyone if suppose one day there is a unified world govt
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The problem is that it’s not actually a world government; that is only what they tell us. The reality is that it’s a fucking mafia, a corporation to serve the interests of a handful of white collared killers with cero empathy towards the misery of the world. Those are the people who are running the show. It’s all about control, power and greed at the expense of humanity: kill hundreds, thousands or millions. It doesn’t seem to matter to them if it serves their interests. And they own the media so they can tell the people what to believe. It just fucking stinks. At least lets see it as what it is.
Yeah, if the genuinly GOOD people in the world stood up to unite and protect the world and get rid of the wars, poverty and inequality then it would be a totally different thing.
What is scary is that we are potentially being mislead over some fucking cliff and we do not even know it. And their tactics seem to be to create a problem ( like an attack) and then they can under the flag of protection create new laws that you would never dream of accepting. With control over the media they can make the mainstream believe whatever they want through simple repetition. They will fucking insert a microchip in your ass and collar in your neck and you wil be thanking them. Thats what is scary.
But no fear! Good has more power. And bottomline is we are the ones who in the end sustain this system. So we have the power to change it.
We should just have a bit more self esteem here, you know? Not just settle for such a miserable, mediocre outlook on this world. We shouldn’t give so much power to these so called leaders, I mean we should be able to rise above it. Because if we shrink in fear to the point we think we can’t do anything about it, then we won't be able to do anything about it. And that is the biggest lie and we should never accept such BS from those in power or from ourselves.
We have the power the change things.
We have the choice. And thanks to the internet more people are becoming aware of how things are really run in the world. It’s the first time we have uncensored media and that is huge and is having an impact.
We sustain this system, we can change it too.
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segment 7
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Posted : Mar 26, 2009 15:00
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^^^^^ Agreed 100%
The first step is spreading the word, which is the idea of these films, and then once enough people are aware we'll actually be able to do something about it. Even if all these films arn't 100% true, the large majority of the facts they present are, and so people need to be made aware.
Projection makes perception. The world is what you gave it, nothing more than that. It is a witness to your state of mind, the outside picture of an inward condition. As a man thinketh, so does he perceive- Anonymous
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Posted : Apr 6, 2009 14:09
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I haven't watched the whole movie so I won't comment too much on it. Thought the beginning was quite terrible though. Dubious people who claim quite sensational stuff and the movie doesn't back up those claims very well.
But what you must understand is that Alex Jones himself is on the extreme right(not in a racist way) in his views. He would definitely call the party most to the right here in Sweden at least for socialists for example. He is also a christian which clouds his impartiality. For example he dismiss Zeitgeist for socialist propaganda(a movie which first part heavily questions Christianity).
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XuN
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Posted : Apr 6, 2009 17:36
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esu > Actually Alex Jones is not a right or left winger. He makes that very clear. He is not for either the repuplicans or the democrats.
I would agree though on the fact that his religion is bluring his vision. But no matter what, he brings alot of facts out in the open.
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Posted : Apr 8, 2009 23:01
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Sure, a very interesting movie to watch but just like it sickens some of you it sickens me to see lots of people drawing lines towards the easiest thing, our bad guy hitler.
It's too easy...
Still a nice thing though, shows some interesting facts. |
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XuN
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Posted : Apr 13, 2009 17:52
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Doornen > I tend to agree. All those "badguys" are simply a product of our own conduct in this world.
Have you seen "Kymatica" ?
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Posted : May 11, 2009 23:38
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nice watch....another doc on what crap we have to deal with....
my advice is dont get hanged on images of hitler, mao stalin etc......isnt that what this documentary is about?!....dont follow the strong images but look at the big picture...something might be bullshit or over subjective but some things.....cammmoooon!!!wtf?!?!?
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NIKTHEQUICK
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Posted : May 11, 2009 23:40
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sure_smoke_alot..... nice blogspot btw!!!
interesting.... |
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sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : May 12, 2009 12:19
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^^ thx
the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!! |
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Kaz
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Posted : May 12, 2009 12:54
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On 2009-03-26 15:00, segment 7 wrote:
Even if all these films arn't 100% true, the large majority of the facts they present are, and so people need to be made aware. |
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The most dangerous lies are hidden between truths. Story from the middle ages: an infectious disease wreaked havoc around Europe. The Jewish people got a far smaller infection rate than the rest of the population.
In Jewish religion some of the rituals include baths (rare in the dark ages), washing the food you eat (as opposed to worms in cabbage being a sign that it's good to eat in the majority of the population), and so on. Not surprisingly, that entailed a much lower risk of contracting certain diseases.
Let's replace the last paragraph with a lie: the Jews brought this disease and are using it to kill the Christian population. This was widely accepted as a truth, even though nowadays it seems laughable (remember, back in those days medicine wasn't what it is today).
One lie between facts, notice how it makes all the difference. Instead of the message "hygiene is good, maybe people should adopt it and get sick less", what ended up was "Jews use their demon-powers to kill us".
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=225921&title=Large-Hadron-Collider
The lengths people will go for a negative spin on things.
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