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Mumukshu


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Posted : Jun 19, 2008 15:56
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On 2008-06-18 17:26, jabba wrote:
no mind = awareness of self = 101% possible

future never was and never will be as all live this moment none lived ahead , and if some sees the future is actually the projection of present changing into present again with probablities AND mi bros planets are planets different vibrational souls but only to facilitate the evolution which is now and ever will be as NOW.HERE .................. 2012 = quiet a long shot what about 2009 or 10 or 31/12/2011 ???????????????????

love today peace today calamities and changes are happening NOW

peace n light




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Cosmic Oneness
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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 01:12
So much said and all of it makes perfect sense ! It is now and this moment is all that is eternal !

Mumukshu "Let Go" means exactly what you say it is and beautifully added on by HIgher AccesS

2012 is a special year in more ways than 1 which makes it nothing like 2009 , 2010 or all these other intermediary dates which we shall pass while we approach the winter solstice of 2012 when reality will change dramatically ! We can only speculate and prophecize in part but never know the future completely. But what we know is that change is coming whether you like it or not and it principally affects the human consciousness ! It's the dawn of the golden era ! A new age of peace, love and understanding ! It's the end of a natural earth cycle which lasted about 25,000 years and it's not an unfortunate event befalling mankind ! The ET, the crop circles, Goa Trance, Natural disasters, our rapidly changing selves and this massive global awakening are all related ! Underground music is playing an unseen yet super important role in helping us make this transition !



Love & Understanding

          " All is One "

When we change the way we see things, the things we see begin to change ... In Lak'ech Ala K'in ...
RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd


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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 07:55
hic!!!... Yeap... right u r... wats coming is a golden age... but u know wat,. even that is being tried to be sabotaged... there are some powerfull organizations and cults n "Elite" people around the world,. these people thrive on others misery and power and money and voilence n shite,. basically power,. these people know a lot of things and have kept it a secret from common people,. so these people from a loooong time have always been in the power, ruled us, and are trying to deviate the humanity from wat is supposed to happen... see if this supposedly good change happens,. all the secrets and bad activities of these people will come to light,. they will loose their power,. they have always controlled humanity,. kept secrets and truth from common man n many such things,. they have committed the most henious crimes and cruelty and got away with it... so if this change happens then these powerfull bad people will be fucked,. so they are trying big time to stop wats going to happen... they go to any extent to make u believe or not believe something and most of th etime they have succeeded... thats where this collective consciousness comes in... this thing is so powerfull that if everybody starts thinking abt one particular thing we can make it happen or make it not happen,. so these people are putting false shite into our minds,. try to scare us abt the coming change say9ing its a doomsday n shite like that and are trying to deviate the humanity from future happenings coz its bad for these powerfull people,. but now that many people know wat really is gonna happen,. and we know that wats gonna happen is gonna be good though we might have to pay a small price for it,. we all have to leave our stupid beliefs from the pre-conditioned mind and adopt the new change for good and think abt it and try to make it happen... so if wats gonna happen is so good for everyone why do people wanna criticize it and support the same age old false belief that has been put into our heads,. why is it so difficult to accept it,. alright lets say all this 2012 change for good is a load of mumbo jumbo,. even then if it is for good then why not we think abt it,. we accept so much false information without questioning it and follow it like it was THE THING TO DO... we have been doing it since the day we were born,. so many things we just accept coz it looks like everybody else is doing the same thing and it must be right or someone "big" told u that and it shud be right coz he told so... sigh!... common... noone knows for sure eh as to wat really is gonna happen,. some people beleive in some things and some in other things,. but look at our present situation,. the humanity,. its fucked up man,. everywhere,. the system is fucked up,. the planet is fucked up,. people are fucked up with all kinda wrong things in their head,. science talks like its "God" but its not able to do much in reality for a better life,. it might give u loads of gadgets but it hasnt give us peace of mind... coz science is not everytihng,. its just a tool to understand everything,. etc etc etc... so considering the present situation wat chances do we have for a better future???!!!... can u trust these politicions and fake religious people or scientists or stupid corporate people or the military and wars and terrorism and rebels to really save u from the shite we have brought upon us... how much can u trust science... its still not able to take us beyond moon, not able to cure cancer and aids,. forget them its even not able to handle the spread of a common influenza... how will anyone clean up this garbage dump planet? who will save the animals,. forests,. nature? and lastly the humanity,. who will save it and who will give it the peace it needs? many are trying but its not that affective as such... thats why we need a MAJOR change... and this 2012 looks quite promising considering the other options which are really going nowhere,. (do some research and take all the things connected with this whole 2012 phenomenon,. mythology, old epics,.science,. prophecies,.ancient civilizations,. earths history,.visions which many of us have seen and different realities we have experienced,. psychology,. etc etc etc and try and fit them together and u can see some truth) ..... we need a change on a cozmic scale... shite has to be flushed out from our planet,.... so instead of arguing endlessely without any results why not we try and accept this change for better and think abt it,. well if it happens then good for us... if it doesnt happen well we dont have anything to loose from thinking good.,. we can carry on with watever we can from there on... also we cant sit idle thinkin 2012 will come and its gonna change everything,. life has to go on and we have to do wat we have to do and keep trying... So lets all just stop the crap and think for a better future and good things,. if 2012s gonna bring it,. good then,. else keep trying... peace....
RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd


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Posted : Jun 20, 2008 08:16
Also wanted to add... this 2012 thingy is not a one day Armageddon or something like that,. that watever change cycle is supposed to end on 21dec2012... zero point time or where time ceases to exist and then maybe a blip or an eternity before the next era begins... and watever is happening has started long time ago,. maybe the major cycle started in 1989 i guess... its going on now also and it only is intensifying... u can see the change in the planet,. change in peoples consciousness,. information flow,. change in beliefs,. etc etc etc is happening,. things for good and bad are both happening,. things for bad is happening so intensly that it looks like the cries n throes of a dying animal eh?!... Hic !!!...
Cosmic Oneness
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Posted : Jun 23, 2008 02:54
^^^ Here We Come ...

          " All is One "

When we change the way we see things, the things we see begin to change ... In Lak'ech Ala K'in ...
Cosmic Oneness
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Posted : Jul 2, 2008 01:03
Stop whatever you are doing, thinking, and believing. Right now realize you are an Infinite Being and will never die. Make this dynamic shift in your consciousness permanent today...



http://enlightenedbeings.com/enlightenment.html
          " All is One "

When we change the way we see things, the things we see begin to change ... In Lak'ech Ala K'in ...
phiber_optixz
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Posted : Jul 9, 2008 22:19
Just felt like sharing this article, I read somewhere few days back.. Hope it helps.

Four Dimensions Of Yoga (by Karan Singh)

There is within each individual a spark of the divine, call it the atman, the soul, the Bodhichitta or by whatever name. It is this spark that energises human consciousness... Every individual has a unique value, because he represents a special correlation of forces revolving around a spiritual core of which he may or may not be conscious. Yoga helps us join this inner spiritual core with the all-pervading divine.

Four main paths of yoga are identifiable: the yoga of wisdom or jnana yoga, of love or bhakti, of work or karma and of psycho-spiritual disciplines or raja yoga.

Jnana yoga involves intellectual discrimination between the real and the unreal, to access reality that lies behind the manifested universe. It is somewhat like the concept of Plato who said that all we see are shadows of reality thrown on the wall of the cave, while remaining unaware both of the actual figures and the light that shines on them from behind. This yoga is a movement into a new dimension of awareness in which we see the unity behind the diversity of the world around us. This vision of oneness which the Upanishads call Ekatvam transforms the ordinary human being into a seer, one who sees the integral unity behind the multifarious and bewildering multiplicity of our daily existence. Sri Ramana Maharishi was a jnana yogi.

If jnana yoga is the way of the refined intellect, bhakti yoga is the way of the heart lit by love and adoration of a personalised aspect of the divine... The opening of the heart centre is one of the most powerful methodologies for achieving direct contact with the divine...

Karma yogas aspects have been expounded in the Gita. Act we must, whether it is the subconscious activities within our bodies, or the conscious acts that we perform in our daily lives. Without such action human civilisation itself would never have developed. But the major question is as to how these actions can be reconciled with the spiritual quest. Karma yoga addresses this concept. Every action that we undertake, big or small, must be dedicated to ones chosen divinity. Every act becomes worship. Rather than being obsessed with the results we must act from what we consider to be highest level of our consciousness, inwardly dedicate that act to the divine and leave the results to unfold as they may.

Actions flowing from hatred and fanaticism, cruelty and exploitation, can never be considered karma yoga because by definition they are incapable of being offered to the divine. Again good deeds by themselves, while preferable, do not constitute karma yoga unless there is a clear and unequivocal dedication to ones chosen deity. Swami Vivekananda and Mother Teresa were karma yogis.

Raja yoga is the royal path which involves psycho-spiritual practices including physical and breathing exercises that are known as yoga around the world. But only if they are directed ultimately beyond these to the quickening of spiritual consciousness. The basic theory revolves around the existence of a self-conscious spiritual power that is located at the base of the spine. With discipline and practice, this power can start to move up the spine, energising, as it rises, seven chakras or plexuses, which bring about incremental transmutation of consciousness, until finally the blazing light of this power the Kundalini, the serpent power pours into the cortex thus completing the process of spiritual transmutation. These four yogas are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Mad Purple State
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 08:37
I am not sure how many of youll are familiar about this theory, but it was one of the most intresting theories I had come across in the past few years in the field of reality science. And it relates itself to Hinduism in more ways than one, specially by pointing to us that physical reality may well be just an illusion, Maya. Its a bit long... but well worth the read as its written very well.

The Universe as a Hologram - Michael Tablot

In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face of science.
Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect has caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain away Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical explanations.


University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram.
To understand why Bohm makes this startling assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram is a three- dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser. To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the reflected light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But as soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and then illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the entire image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact version of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram contains all the information possessed by the whole.
The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an entirely new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history, Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand a physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the universe may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart something constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is made, we will only get smaller wholes.

          No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
Mad Purple State
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 08:39
This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the following illustration. Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine also that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge about it and what it contains comes from two television cameras, one directed at the aquarium's front and the other directed at its side. As you stare at the two television monitors, you might assume that the fish on each of the screens are separate entities. After all, because the cameras are set at different angles, each of the images will be slightly different. But as you continue to watch the two fish, you will eventually become aware that there is a certain relationship between them. When one turns, the other also makes a slightly different but corresponding turn; when one faces the front, the other always faces toward the side. If you remain unaware of the full scope of the situation, you might even conclude that the fish must be instantaneously communicating with one another, but this is clearly not the case.
This, says Bohm, is precisely what is going on between the subatomic particles in Aspect's experiment. According to Bohm, the apparent faster-than-light connection between subatomic particles is really telling us that there is a deeper level of reality we are not privy to, a more complex dimension beyond our own that is analogous to the aquarium. And, he adds, we view objects such as subatomic particles as separate from one another because we are seeing only a portion of their reality. Such particles are not separate "parts", but facets of a deeper and more underlying unity that is ultimately as holographic and indivisible as the previously mentioned rose. And since everything in physical reality is comprised of these "eidolons", the universe is itself a projection, a hologram.

          No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
Mad Purple State
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 08:40
In addition to its phantomlike nature, such a universe would possess other rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality all things in the universe are infinitely interconnected.The electrons in a carbon atom in the human brain are connected to the subatomic particles that comprise every salmon that swims, every heart that beats, and every star that shimmers in the sky. Everything interpenetrates everything, and although human nature may seek to categorize and pigeonhole and subdivide, the various phenomena of the universe, all apportionments are of necessity artificial and all of nature is ultimately a seamless web.

In a holographic universe, even time and space could no longer be viewed as fundamentals. Because concepts such as location break down in a universe in which nothing is truly separate from anything else, time and three-dimensional space, like the images of the fish on the TV monitors, would also have to be viewed as projections of this deeper order. At its deeper level reality is a sort of superhologram in which the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given the proper tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the superholographic level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long-forgotten past.

What else the superhologram contains is an open-ended question. Allowing, for the sake of argument, that the superhologram is the matrix that has given birth to everything in our universe, at the very least it contains every subatomic particle that has been or will be -- every configuration of matter and energy that is possible, from snowflakes to quasars, from blue whales to gamma rays. It must be seen as a sort of cosmic storehouse of "All That Is."
Although Bohm concedes that we have no way of knowing what else might lie hidden in the superhologram, he does venture to say that we have no reason to assume it does not contain more. Or as he puts it, perhaps the superholographic level of reality is a "mere stage" beyond which lies "an infinity of further development".

          No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
Mad Purple State
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 08:46
Bohm is not the only researcher who has found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently in the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality. Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are dispersed throughout the brain.

In a series of landmark experiments in the 1920s, brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion of a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only problem was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain this curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.

Then in the 1960s Pribram encountered the concept of holography and realized he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking for. Pribram believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings of neurons, but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire brain in the same way that patterns of laser light interference crisscross the entire area of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other words, Pribram believes the brain is itself a hologram.
Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human brain has the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same amount of information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica).

Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information storage--simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a piece of photographic film, it is possible to record many different images on the same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimeter of film can hold as many as 10 billion bits of information.
Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need from the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the brain functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to tell him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have to clumsily sort back through some gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file to arrive at an answer. Instead, associations like "striped", "horselike", and "animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly. Indeed, one of the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every piece of information seems instantly cross- correlated with every other piece of information--another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with every other portion, it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system.

The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that becomes more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain. Another is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of frequencies it receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies, and so on) into the concrete world of our perceptions.

Encoding and decoding frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image, Pribram believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic principles to mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through the senses into the inner world of our perceptions.

          No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
Mad Purple State
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But the most mind-boggling aspect of Pribram's holographic model of the brain is what happens when it is put together with Bohm's theory. For if the concreteness of the world is but a secondary reality and what is "there" is actually a holographic blur of frequencies, and if the brain is also a hologram and only selects some of the frequencies out of this blur and mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes of objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the religions of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion, and although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical world, this too is an illusion.
We are really "receivers" floating through a kaleidoscopic sea of frequency, and what we extract from this sea and transmogrify into physical reality is but one channel from many extracted out of the superhologram.


This striking new picture of reality, the synthesis of Bohm and Pribram's views, has come to be called the-holographic paradigm, and although many scientists have greeted it with skepticism, it has galvanized others. A small but growing group of researchers believe it may be the most accurate model of reality science has arrived at thus far. More than that, some believe it may solve some mysteries that have never before been explainable by science and even establish the paranormal as a part of nature. Numerous researchers, including Bohm and Pribram, have noted that many para-psychological phenomena become much more understandable in terms of the holographic paradigm.           No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
Mad Purple State
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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 08:49
Since the article is longer... I will just leave the link for those who find it intresting and would like to read through the few more paragraphs I havent posted here.

Hope you enjoy it.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/hologram.html

Mad           No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd


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Posted : Jul 10, 2008 22:37
Nice to see this thread back in action Fav thread of all
Good one mad purple
i had read the same thing on another website with some more facts,. here is the link and more info ... enjaii
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Holographic_Universe/id/5864
jabba


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Posted : Jul 11, 2008 12:33
watch this movie called "the nines" or simply it is called "NINES" you may want to watch it twice as soon as the first time it is over . Cheers            To focus sometimes you need to spin hard on your soul's axis..... just don't ask how and what it means ;)
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