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sly
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Posted : Aug 4, 2008 12:13
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On 2008-08-04 01:56, hugaw wrote:
there's a f*ckin huge gap between professionally mastered tracks and Ozone processing.
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there's a fuckin' huge gap between profesionally made music and shit with some hardware comps on it...
yep, after some years of mixing and room acoustics i would recommend a GOOD mastering service.
for £12 you can maybe except a standard-everytrackexactlysame-fullon processing or whatever... |
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hugaw
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Posted : Aug 4, 2008 13:10
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a standard-everytrackexactlysame-fullon processing
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 4, 2008 22:12
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See if they'll do a sample for you (maybe half a track or something) and judge for yourself.
Mastering is very subjective and introduces a lot of changes that affect your original vision. I'd hesitate to drop a lot of money on mastering if I didn't know how they would treat my track first.
Who is your intendend audience? Labels? DJs?
Sly - does Charles7's stuff sound like shit with hardware compressors on it? I haven't heard his music so I don't know. If it does then yeah, just stick with a maximizer... |
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sly
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Posted : Aug 4, 2008 23:17
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no, i didn't meant exactly his music. just in general. but asking for presets and mastering service at the same time...
maybe i'm just jealous cause i'm messing around with very different styles of music for a long time and he has some tracks ready for mastering after a couple of months...
i think we should make music, not perfect tunes. the technical aspect comes much later. and i would dj the most f***k'd up track if it's some art i'm not used to listen at every party.
and how you said, mastering is more than just making a track better. it really influences the whole picture of the music. that's why i meant, you will know when a track is ready and you will know who feels it and has the mastering skills as well. |
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manducator
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Posted : Aug 18, 2008 23:59
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On 2008-07-31 20:06, manducator wrote:
Hello everybody,
This is my first post in this forum. I wrote a mixing/mastering toturial (only with software). It would be nice to get some feedback. I'm always searching to improve.
Thanks already.
http://rapidshare.com/files/133868126/mixingisra.rar
Greetz,
manducator
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Mmmh, not one reaction? And I was looking forward to improve... |
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 19, 2008 17:18
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On 2008-08-18 23:59, manducator wrote:
Mmmh, not one reaction? And I was looking forward to improve...
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Manducator - an extensively detailed document which taught me a lot. I have to admit though, I can't see myself ever using that much processing in my mixing. I did take away some knowledge of new plug-ins to use, but it still is overwhelming.
But then I'm a big fan of 'get it right at the source' and 'happy little mistakes' and probably would not make a good mixing/mastering engineer.
All in all an excellent document that should be required reading for anyone interested in taking their mixing and mastering to the next level.
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 19, 2008 17:26
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On 2008-08-02 21:26, charles7 wrote:
I'm looking to get some tracks mastered soon, although as everyone I'm sure I have very little money & am looking for someone who does it cheap. I found these guys who do as cheap as £12 per track, but for so cheap do you think it will be a good service? i don't mind if the mastering isn't brilliant, just as long as it makes my track a little better. What do you guys think?
http://www.northsouthaudio.com/price.htm
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Charles - also check out Kri's offer here: http://forum.isratrance.com/free-mastering/
Free mastering for the first 20 respondants (still some open slots I believe) and he's got a good ear.
Yes, I'm being a shill for him but only because honest endorsements are easy.
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manducator
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Posted : Aug 20, 2008 18:13
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On 2008-08-19 17:18, fuzzikitten wrote:
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On 2008-08-18 23:59, manducator wrote:
Mmmh, not one reaction? And I was looking forward to improve...
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Manducator - an extensively detailed document which taught me a lot. I have to admit though, I can't see myself ever using that much processing in my mixing. I did take away some knowledge of new plug-ins to use, but it still is overwhelming.
But then I'm a big fan of 'get it right at the source' and 'happy little mistakes' and probably would not make a good mixing/mastering engineer.
All in all an excellent document that should be required reading for anyone interested in taking their mixing and mastering to the next level.
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Thank you very much, fuzzikitten. I really appreciate your comments!! |
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longhi
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Posted : Aug 22, 2008 17:25
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http://rapidshare.com/files/133868126/mixingisra.rar
Mmmh, not one reaction? And I was looking forward to improve...
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looks very nice, i downloaded it and now reading..installing the softwares and will try to use your methods!
thanks!!
will post my experiences soon..!
thx again!
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AcidForAll
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Posted : Aug 26, 2008 01:00
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On 2008-08-18 23:59, manducator wrote:
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On 2008-07-31 20:06, manducator wrote:
Hello everybody,
This is my first post in this forum. I wrote a mixing/mastering toturial (only with software). It would be nice to get some feedback. I'm always searching to improve.
Thanks already.
http://rapidshare.com/files/133868126/mixingisra.rar
Greetz,
manducator
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Mmmh, not one reaction? And I was looking forward to improve...
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nice one!!
got some good ideas from it!!
Thanks a lot!!! |
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manducator
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Posted : Aug 26, 2008 14:26
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You're welcome, longhi an AcidForAll !! |
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Medea
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PsychoCinese
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Manducator, thanks for the tutorial, it helps a lot.
I have 2 questions about mastering... To prepare my track for master whats better:
1- render to wav the bassline and the kick in separated files and then unify only in the final wav
2-render to wav Kick and Bass (of course taking care with frequencies overlap, usually i use TC Works Sidechainer)
And the last question for now...
I see on some video tutorials ("In the studio with" series) the artists usually do a HF cut on the drums about 15khz, like Steve Angelo spoke, to prevent ear damage and to remove some noise. I know that human ear can listen to 20~20.000hz and i miss that frequencies over 15k, I.M.O between 15k and 17k is where the drums have its "shhhhhh" "shhhh" sound (sorry i dont how to write this in apropriate terms) maybe the air of the drums....
The question is:
Should i cut it like he spoke, or just reduce the gain on equalizer and the master will do this, or should i cut it and forget about...?
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manducator
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Posted : Oct 5, 2008 17:58
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On 2008-09-30 21:53, PsychoCinese wrote:
Manducator, thanks for the tutorial, it helps a lot.
I have 2 questions about mastering... To prepare my track for master whats better:
1- render to wav the bassline and the kick in separated files and then unify only in the final wav
2-render to wav Kick and Bass (of course taking care with frequencies overlap, usually i use TC Works Sidechainer)
And the last question for now...
I see on some video tutorials ("In the studio with" series) the artists usually do a HF cut on the drums about 15khz, like Steve Angelo spoke, to prevent ear damage and to remove some noise. I know that human ear can listen to 20~20.000hz and i miss that frequencies over 15k, I.M.O between 15k and 17k is where the drums have its "shhhhhh" "shhhh" sound (sorry i dont how to write this in apropriate terms) maybe the air of the drums....
The question is:
Should i cut it like he spoke, or just reduce the gain on equalizer and the master will do this, or should i cut it and forget about...?
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About kick and bass: I like to seperate them until final mastering.
I use different highpass and lowpass on them, different eq'ing (which has to be compatible). If I for instance put a bell curve of +3 dB on the bass, it's nice to put a bell curve with -3 dB on the kick. |
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CymazZ
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Posted : Oct 16, 2008 19:41
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On 2008-07-26 01:07, technomedics wrote:
sure - defo need to get the mix as good as possible
i understand now, you are using single band compression rather than multiband.
i've been messing with this signal path...
eq - compression - inflator - eq - limiter
i've found the Waves LinMB quite harsh - that's why i've been wondering about alternatives - it does add punch though
exciters and stereo expansion stuff never really work in a good way for me - i haven't used them much and probably haven't figured them too well as a result
which compressor do you use for mastering? (and why...)
thanks, this is very helpful
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Manley Vari Mu Comp/Limiter is da piece!
why?because its a tube compressor, better...its an ALL TUBE COMPRESSOR.
I LOVE IT!
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