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The Mother of all KICK DRUMS thread

WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix

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Posted : May 9, 2005 09:33
where can i find the Stomper ??
s0ft
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Posted : May 10, 2005 03:34
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/stomper/index2.html

i assume this is the same stomper.

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fregle
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Posted : May 12, 2005 20:10
neat little thing i learned from bandarlog:

layering (ok, classic trick...) really works... I layered a good sounding kick with too little oomph on itself, put a LP filter on one and a HP filter on the other so they don't clash, and the play with the volumes of both untill u have the right amount of click/sub. Works like a charm, but u need a quite good kick to start with (although i think that u can do it with the 909 kick and it will be fine)
Infinite_Dimensions
Ephexis

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Posted : May 15, 2005 01:07
Waldorf Attack VSTI can make some really phat kicks and i am very fond of that, also jeskola buzz has a whole range of dedicated kick drum synths which are incredibly flexable (buzz is free software). I like to put mine through some cab distortion too just to give it a more real analog sound. I always find synthesizing a kick drum will have much better results as you can adjust the decay to suit the tempo and the pitch of the kick to suit the key accordingly. I know some producers that have a habit of using the same sampled kick in every track because they know that it will work ok at high volumes through a rig, if you dont quite understand what your doing when making a kick drum it can go terribly wrong in the low end, which is why i think some producers get a little scared about making their own (quite rightly too), but i always get frustrated with the same old kick and often find its not quite right for the track imo. Kick synthesis is the way forward! I am constantly monitoring my kicks frequency response with a graphical equalizer to make sure the frequencies are evenly distributed and stopping in the correct place etc.
tom tailor


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Posted : May 21, 2005 00:47
Fuity Loops, fruity kick genereator, really synthz for make kick! =)

daya


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Posted : May 21, 2005 15:26
free Stomper Hyperion http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Stomper_Ultra/

dammit it's only for PC, enjoy tho'
(if you produce a good kicks from it, please share me some the bad ones)           founder http://www.enkienterprise.com
founder http://www.blacksheephybrid
illuminative


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Posted : Jun 3, 2005 06:37
^) mic+widermind=supakick//:)

..your can generate a kick on any synths, soft or hard...

waldorf attack (soft or hard) realy kick ass..
Psylopath
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Posted : Jun 4, 2005 19:49
question:
the turning point is the interaction between kick and bass, but where do you place them on the wave spectrum?
i mean, is it better, to seperate them, or boost them at the same frequenzies, and if you seperate them, where do you place which?
lg psylo

mindflow


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Posted : Jun 5, 2005 10:45
Quote:

On 2005-06-03 06:37, illuminative wrote:
^) mic+widermind=supakick//:)

..your can generate a kick on any synths, soft or hard...

waldorf attack (soft or hard) realy kick ass..


Have you ever succeed in doing a useful kick in this way? Hmm.. This must be worth testing
illuminative


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Posted : Jun 8, 2005 18:20
2mindflow,
yes! im creating a kick drums on virus c, nord modular, korg ms2000 , and also mic trick ^)
if you want to listen thats samples , i can send to you some of it..
sorry for my bad english...
BoOmSqUaD


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Posted : Jun 12, 2005 06:27
some good info here
          ------- ThE Bo(OM)B SpecialisTs -------
Neotech


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Posted : Jun 12, 2005 13:06
[Tuning Kick Drums 101]
Requirements: Synth with self oscillating filter, creativity, a good ear and patience!

1. Turn all oscillaters down (off)
2. Turn the resonace to full (max)
3. Cutoff around 10%
4. Envelope amount 50%
4. Filter Envelope decay 10-20%
5. Filter Envelope sustain 0-10%
6. Volume Envelope attack 0-10% ( the more you turn up the attack the more rounded the kick will be)
7. Volume Envelope Decay 10-20%

Every synth will be slightly different but this will get you very close. Just experiment with it and have some fun.
-*protoculture*-
protoculture

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Posted : Jun 13, 2005 12:07
Haven't seen anyone mention battery here yet... dunno bout everyone else, but for me I could'nt do any percussion with out it. Just the pitch envelope generators were enough to get me hooked. You can put anything in there and tweak it a bit to get a descent kick sound. Then if you want to get adventurous, its sample accurate so you can layer 100 different kick sounds on top of one another if you wish...
fregle
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Posted : Jun 13, 2005 21:48
nothing that u told just now convinced me that u really have to use battery to do that.... My akai can do that too... i think just about every sampler can do that, the envelopes just need to be fast enough... U can even do it in fuityloops, cuz fruity has a pitch envelope on every sampler channel that u have... And i use the fruity pitch envelope in fact... And it gave me great results... The technical explanation is very correct, i'm just not convinced that u have to have this or that program to do it...
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Jun 14, 2005 00:12
In fruity loops u can also use the samplers 'POGO' knob to tweak ur average kick to and killer kick            Signature
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