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supergroover
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Posted : Aug 18, 2009 19:58
Hey Carbonic,
might be better to put these kind of questions in the workshop section. But to answer your question: your bass doesnt sound bad at all. Maybe pull back the decay/ release a little to get it some tighter. But it sounds pretty decent to me as it is. And maybe cut below 30-40 herz.
Radioactive.Cake
Radioactive Cake

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Posted : Aug 31, 2009 16:12
i really like to experiment with bass sounds that don't even are basses, because i try to differ from the sound and basslines that are heard so often !

with ableton live it's very easy to stretch and warp and deform bass sounds. you can set a single short bass sound on the 1.3...and then for the next just stretch it so that the sound reaches from the 2 to the 3 (a sidechain or an automation maybe needed for it)...and then a short one again on 3.2 and 3.3 and 3.4 maybe and a long one again...
you can even set it off the 4/4

also a good trick is to use a kicksound as a bass and create a fine double bass. this may needs some work on the transients and EQing but it works if you like to differ
a masterpiece of example is Sensient's "Guns'n Ammo"

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Trololo

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Posted : Sep 19, 2009 22:09
Hello

I badly speak on English...

Can help with? To specify errors

Bass - Cronox2
Kick - Bassizm
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Kanyon
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 03:29
vb1 sucks.......

VIRUS TI...CRONOX2...ES-1...EXS24(sampler)...SCORPION...TRILOGY(rom player)...TAU...ZEBRA...ZETA+

after working on compression fx and equalization...

if you have a bad bassline the tracks results too boring,is a my impression           https://soundcloud.com/hookersmusic

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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 2, 2009 13:19
I make my bass with any source possible ,my korg ,or any synth or sample or whatever - because its fun to learn things but wouldnt call any of those as completely made for it or totaly crap or sth.. this is bullshit to me.
It is all in you and your energy how you shape or what you want or if you want.
I think vb 1 is a very great tool for basses and greatly programmed light for cpu which can generate massive sounds.
Mostly you would change the sound with effects or further modulation anyways ,so that its harder to recognize I guess.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
Talibense


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Posted : Oct 6, 2009 18:18
After read a lot of info in the net im a littel confuse so i need some help .

e read someware that o make a saw wave and the freq start on 30 - 60 - 120 - 240 .... or
40 80 160 320 .... 50 100 200 .....
and i try to put some pro sonds on cubase and analize the bass whit PAZ and i stay more confuse. and i try to change the notes to catch the freq i wish, but you can change the freq on the synt to .

So my question is whath the best freq to start ? . and the best note to the bass line ? shold i put a not up and detune ?

the (filter ADSR) it have some relation with the speed of the track or the lengt of the note any formula to calculate ?

and compressors ADSR have any relation with the speed of the track or thr length of a note?

any formula to calculate

and thers some freq that you should kill alwais , and some freq that sould up alwais nomera the note you play?


this is a demo i make
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G1U3TIXK

Sorry my ingles
Thx
aciduss
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Posted : Oct 6, 2009 20:09
Time related settings as envelopes and compressors will always be related to song's tempo and note lenght.

But there is no rule, perhaps you could calculate that by getting millisecond duration of a 16th

Say for example:

60000/BPM/4

60000/145/4 = 103.4 ms

That's the lenght of a 16th, then you can adjust your instrument / fx settings to below 103 ms, for example i like filter env decay to be around 60 ms.

But at the end those are just numbers and what really maters is how it sounds, not to have everything mathematically correct.

You can also use something like this:
http://mp3.deepsound.net/eng/samples_calculs.php

- Also there is no such thing as "best note to start" just make yous bass match your kick, and use a confortable deep tone, trust your ears and in this case trust your chest too since most bass fqncies are rather felt than heard. You can easily get away using any note in first couple of octaves C0 - C1
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Oct 7, 2009 11:55
Quote:

On 2009-10-02 13:19, TimeTraveller wrote:
I make my bass with any source possible ,my korg ,or any synth or sample or whatever - because its fun to learn things


+1. You will not discover your next favourite sound source if you don't give new thigns a try.
Most (soft) synths nowdays, are capable of producing good enough bass. Its all about listening and carefully EQing/mixing your bassline and obviously the rest of the mix together.           
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naga
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Posted : Oct 14, 2009 14:56
What about discovery pro or nord lead?:)           ""
Deshoo

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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 22:50
Hey,

can someone say me what bassline it is:







its not k-b-b-b it sound´s like k-b-k-b, or?

thanks
goatkommando

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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 23:30
Quote:

On 2009-11-17 22:50, Deshoo wrote:
Hey,

can someone say me what bassline it is:

its not k-b-b-b it sound´s like k-b-k-b, or?

thanks



sounds like an off-beat bass with some delay/reverb to me
PoM
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 23:31
Quote:

On 2009-10-14 14:56, naga wrote:
What about discovery pro or nord lead?:)




nord 2 saw sound very good, like es1 but cleaner and maybe a bit thiner
Deshoo

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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 23:47
hi goatkommando,

thx for this fast answer
goatkommando

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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 23:51
Quote:

On 2009-11-17 23:47, Deshoo wrote:
hi goatkommando,

thx for this fast answer



quite welcome hope you have some success in recreating the sound you are going for!
Liquid_Moments

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Posted : Nov 20, 2009 04:40
Hi Crew

My question is:

I have created a nice Bassline that I am very happy with. When I eq it with a low cut at around 28-30hz it just falls apart and turns to mud. If I use a linear phase eq it keeps it nice and clean and very transparent. So I am wondering why a normal parametric eq does this plus it also increases the headroom of the sound. And also is it just a case of eqing out the mud to get my clean sound back ? I hope this makes sense.

Cheers
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