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The Mother of all BASSLINES thread
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TECHPREACHER
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Posted : Jun 29, 2008 21:32
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Ok, thanks...i'll try |
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Alien Bug
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TECHPREACHER
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Posted : Jul 12, 2008 00:23
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I think sidechain is the answer |
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Alien Bug
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hey m8,
read this thread a while till everything got repeated again and again.....
so actually think envelope settings is your answer. know bout your problem, and 4 me it was since last few months only way to create same effect by setting the envelopes. is kinda hard to tell you how i did. but sure sidechain is another way. but 4 me makes only sense for kbbb lines for example. but never used it before i read about in this forum. but have to say sidechain doesnt kill kick, it just stretches the kickrelease to bass attack or cuts it. if u work with bass beginnin at secon step or later its nice way to get quick result. BUT its kinda correction, no professionel setting.
think in your situation is best to try to get the sound as you want through envelope settings. attack is important, set a lil bit back and hear the point u wanna go. decay u also have to hear, then adjust the space for your bass through sustain settings, not too much for sure so there r no sounds overlayin. release as short as possible to get bass and kick rollin.
but as you wanna have bass and kick on same notes i think u wanna have nice sinus bass pad, so u have to tweak a lil bit around. but sure envelope is the answer if sidechain is not.
prefer to get nearly perfect result through settings of the sound, before correctin something couldnt be done better. but anything sidechain compression does u can set in the envelopes, just with lil bit more control.
hope this helps lil bit. point is u have to know how ur bass should sound like. then go for it..... 
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jul 13, 2008 19:34
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diskonekt
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Posted : Jul 13, 2008 20:26
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On 2008-07-13 19:34, Fragletrollet wrote:
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On 2008-07-12 16:27, Alien Bug wrote:
sidechain kill bass when kick is playing. i want have my bassline all the time. Like on example.
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You dont have to sidechain that hard...?
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+1
You could also automate a filter or eq on bass so it won't clash with the kick when playing together.
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Space_Shuttle
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TECHPREACHER
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Sounds quite good, but the kick needs more EQing in order to make it more fluid in the mix
And maybe compression too |
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set the bass notes a litle bit forward, maximum zoom and then -1/-2. A bit more attack (for adjust), then you will have more drive & clearer Sound!
Perhaps a subbaseline!? |
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Suloo
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(quote)but sure sidechain is another way. but 4 me makes only sense for kbbb lines for example. but never used it before i read about in this forum. but have to say sidechain doesnt kill kick, it just stretches the kickrelease to bass attack or cuts it. if u work with bass beginnin at secon step or later its nice way to get quick result. BUT its kinda correction, no professionel setting.(quote)
hm..sidechain is actualy a very profesional step forward..it is so helpful for many kind of things you can do..not just kick/bass..its just the technical development that gets better and that is one benefit of it...why go the hard way when you can get same result with some tricks..listen to daftpunk music or any electro groove bassline now..its almost all made with sidechain..and especialy when kick and bass play at the same time it makes
much sense..cause the attack of the kick still comes through..you could even sidechain the whole masterbus just to make sure the kick attack comes through..its called Ducking and very creative and powerfull process..like in american music production is quite common to use the vocals instead of the kick to duck all the rest..just a tiny bid like 1 db or so..
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Alien Bug
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Nomad Moon
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On 2008-07-14 16:46, Quantec wrote:
set the bass notes a litle bit forward, maximum zoom and then -1/-2. A bit more attack (for adjust), then you will have more drive & clearer Sound!
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So i tried your bassline toturial, very nice results ,thank u very much,i changed a bit and used a vb-1 and liked it alot , the only thing i don't understand is setting the notes forward,it didn't work that nice for me,but i'll give it a try again
Anyway thanx |
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Tatta
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Posted : Jul 15, 2008 23:07
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the mother of basslines is nord lead or jp 8000 |
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Quantec
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On 2008-07-15 11:46, Nomad Moon wrote:
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On 2008-07-14 16:46, Quantec wrote:
set the bass notes a litle bit forward, maximum zoom and then -1/-2. A bit more attack (for adjust), then you will have more drive & clearer Sound!
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So i tried your bassline toturial, very nice results ,thank u very much,i changed a bit and used a vb-1 and liked it alot , the only thing i don't understand is setting the notes forward,it didn't work that nice for me,but i'll give it a try again
Anyway thanx
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ok...it should be only a litle litle bit,the smallest attitude which is possible, & you´ve to adjust the developed advance time with the attack and an envelop/transient shaper. The
bass will run much tighter, cause you can affect it in any way totally!
you have listened to my results...well it could be better....now i´ve another one, sounds much clearer then the ones in the toutorial. Doin bass research every day ;-) |
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