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The dark psy question...
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sonictransportsystem
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Posted : May 1, 2007 21:07
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some guys make a big deal when someone just want to wright its opinion about something, and was a lot of people that already talked about that, in this case it seems that the dark psy issue can not be a new thread anymore...sorry i thought that isratrance forum has less "rules"...if i want to say something i just go and write, it must be like that
Bye
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daark
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Posted : May 3, 2007 15:57
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Who the fuck invented that term?
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Pt.
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Posted : May 3, 2007 16:08
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First time I heard the term 'dark-psy' (form the word as you wish) I understood that it was psy-trance that had a darker feeling, touch or vibe to it. A variant of psy-trance that was fitted better to be played at night when it's dark (moonlight anyone?). What’s so hard to understand about that? Why make such a fuzz over a word that simply describes a vibe? Psykovsky's album (Ie.) isn't either dark nor light. It just 'is'. A perfect psychedelic experience. But if a friend asks me what kind of psy-trance it is, I will without hesitation say that it's a psy-trance album which leans more or less over to the dark side. A misty album of a lot of nightly imagination filled with colours, light, darkness and overall.. emotions.
Peace, love, light and darkness 
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daark
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Posted : May 3, 2007 16:23
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I never called Psychedellic=\ dark untill people started to get confused...
When i listened too (earlier) Rinkadink,Dark Soho,Penta,The Delta,Hallucinogen it never came to my mind too call that dark!I thought it was called Night and Morning
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kazuku
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Posted : May 3, 2007 16:33
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Yeah Spytooned and Daark I agree 101%
Seriously people........just because something is not xplicitly happy sounding does it become dark?
A lot of earlier psy had a "darker" mysterious vibe to it. That is what attracted me to it in the first place...after all at its very essence psychedelic music (imo) tries to emulate and mirror emotions experienced in altered states..
Isnt the psychedlic experience a leap of faith? A jump into the great unknown, the chaos, the darkness?
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Pt.
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Posted : May 3, 2007 16:53
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On 2007-05-03 16:33, kazuku wrote:
A lot of earlier psy had a "darker" mysterious vibe to it. |
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mhm, that too (it didnt have any bounderies, boxes ect) Psychedelics (drugs and music) are mysterious. And for me all psy-trance sounded mysterious, it was 'it's' thing. Mysterious vibration, something unknown and exiting. Keep the vibe alive, keep it mystical, either it's sunny, darky or dinner.
Quote: very essence of psychedelic music (imo) tries to emulate and mirror emotions experienced in altered states..
ja mann.  .. many people do not want to, or simply don’t understand this simple fact. The music is meant to interact with the frequencies of the substance. They go hand in hand like the best matched lovers of the universe.
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daark
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Posted : May 3, 2007 17:04
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a leap of faith for sure!!!:))))
It is a shame for people being so closeminded too see that it doesnt matter how it is called as long it has the right vibe in it!!!
PEACE AND LOVE !!!
"Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
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mk47
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Posted : May 3, 2007 21:53
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palex
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Posted : May 5, 2007 04:46
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i found this in your so called encyclopedia:
''South African dark fullon sound (like N3XU5 or Darkpsy),''
south african!!!??? 
keep music evil!! |
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psysnoopy
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Posted : May 5, 2007 09:49
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''South African dark fullon sound (like N3XU5 or Darkpsy),''
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Guys, It's just a quick ref. that came to my mind to give a quick and brief answer to the writer of the question.
I didn't write this encyclopedia, and I don't have a PHD in psy-trance like you guys!
If you are so concerned, why don't you write your own encyclopedia? as most of the people in this website are Gods of Trance music.
and pls stop asking questions that why article say this and that cuz I didn't launch this encyclopedia. |
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Yidam
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Posted : May 5, 2007 10:15
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Hmm I'd like to give this a shot.
Okay so you have a keyboard with however many notes (61,88,...). Theres the left 'side' with the happy 'morning' tweaky sounding notes. Theres the right side with the 'dark' booming rumbling notes.
Most producers will use a MIDI based keyboard over which they add VSTs (which are like sound filters). This is what u would use if ure not making the sounds from simple wave oscillations.
So the basic structure is a kick and a bass. Both would use the scale... lower note basslines give the rumbling effect.. couple that with a low pitch kick and you have the daaark sounding structure. Up the bassline and the kick pitch and youve got a full on kick.
That pretty mucht the basis of it. Then theres leads, atmospheres, effects,samples... all that can range anywhere on that scale. You can have a high pitched bassline and lots of wierd modulated effects and leads and you have something like Highko. Lower basslines and kicks with all base effects and leads and you have Jellyheadz. High pitched basslines and kick with melodies on high notes and you have a full on sound.
This is just bringing it to the basics... all these producers put a lot more into their work. Many acoustic/analog instruments can go over the electronic bits.
But this basic structure is what leads to people defining it as dark or morning... its just the feeling... the same feeling you get when you strike notes on a piano.
When I dont want to describe each element to communicate what im talking about I'll be lazy and call some music dark. I'd doesnt do justice to the complexity of the work but I dont think its a strikemedead sin either.
Its a lot to analyze. talking about it can be a waste of time...just listen, think/trip/visualise/freakout/blankout/whatuwill and dance.
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kazuku
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Posted : May 6, 2007 10:34
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looool
World of Psycraft:
***Clouds of darkpsy rage envelop Kazuku***
***Kazuku enters DAAAAARK rage and throws X shuriken ninja stars at D-Nox***
***D-Nox suffers 5087 physical damge***
***D-Nox enters psytrance hell***
Plur ;P
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Spasm
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Posted : May 7, 2007 20:04
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***D-Nox enters psytrance hell***
***D-Nox looks around, gets himself a beer***
***D-nox gets bored***
***D-nox goes back to real Life***
.. and the rock'roll continues... 
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