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The Cube presents ASTRIX and XEROX & ILLUMINATION in Athens @ Club 22 on Saturday 08 December!

The_Cube
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Posted : Dec 8, 2007 15:22
All the artists are already in Athens and this will be a great night indeed.

Timetable has not yet been arranged but be there as early as possible because a lot of people are expected.           The Die Is Cast
astral6896


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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 15:47
that's trance!!!!!!!!!!
Perfect choices...
one more time surprise us mike:-))           We have to get out of History...
Shamanix


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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 16:33
the party was awsome xept that stupid fight but wth... please next time let there be some Deco ffs... some black lights and stuff dont make us feel like we are at remos or gonidis...
vally


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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 18:14
Indeed I didn't surprised... Astrix played his own tunes too slow and it seems to me tha he is going to turn it over to more progressive sound... xerox live was good but not sth super at all........ I waited more from those 2 artists and i think that it was the worst time of astrix in athens in june he had just burned the place but unfortunately not this time           liquid style dancers
[Ghost]


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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 19:16
I agree with vally

nothing more . . . .

both projects are turned in progressive sounds heheh
macdeath
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Posted : Dec 10, 2007 21:35
Astrix and Xerox didn't sound progressive at all this summer in Portugal... Maybe the crowd has a small amount of responsibility for the vibes that the dj or act receives. (Fight???)
DETOX
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Posted : Dec 10, 2007 22:00
Xerox and Illumination were towards progressive last Saturday?

I must have been at the wrong party i guess....           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Dj Dino aka Mindwash-SoundKraft rec. au
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Posted : Dec 10, 2007 23:21
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There are no words to say about this party.Was beautiful!!!
A big MPRABO to Detox and Thanasi.
i can wait for the next event mike.
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          the mindwash is coming...
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LNE78poi


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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 11:29
Detox, were u involved in this? I have to inform you that it was awful. The whole place looked like a progressive party. I wouldn't say that the music was progressive, but it seemed like the dj's thought they arrived at the wrong party. The place looked like a progressive party, simply because there was no black lights or stuff. Trance parties have this beautiful thing called DECO. Ever heard about it DETOX?
And now I can see what happened to the previous two parties that you arranged in the summer, Silicon Sound and Dinos Psaras and Talamasca. None of them realized that a trance party was going on. Because there was no deco either.
U put those 2 beautiful women to dance, yet you failed to inform them about the style of music. It was not a cabaret, it was a trance party.
I wasn't there when that fight happened, I assume it happened earlier than my arrival. I walked in with my boyfriend, and some arsehole friend of yours or member of your crew, who was standing at the door, tried to pick a fight with my boyfriend, when us two were only looking for the wardrobe. What the FUCK was that about? Who do you people think you are? Nice example you give to the people here! Go on, make the fighting thing that goes on in the greek parties even worse.           I'm glad mushrooms are illegal.Once I took,you know what happened?I laid in a field of green grass for 4 hours, going, 'My God, I love everything.' This is a hazard to our country, how are we going to sell weapons if we realize we are all one?" Bill Hicks
macdeath
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 17:57
Guys and Girls.

We live in Greece with the beautifull sun and the major history and culture. But the loast years our country has taken the "katiforo". This is also very true for the parties.

To be more specific I agree that the security guys are awfull. Well not all of them, cause I personally know some. So you are right to judge them with these words but we have also to consider our behaviour.
I saw a fight at a previous event. Ok some of the security guys acted with a very bad way, but they took the motivation by the guy that they threw out. We have to respect the place we dance and we have fun. Even if its deco its more to "skyladiko" (I think none of the promoters called this place "trance venue") and even if the sound is horrible (wich is not in promoter's responsibility, but I remember Rinkandik's face when he was trying to understand the problems of the p.a. All the people who were sitting at the rear end of the dancefloor maybe could understand what I am talking bout.)

But to be honest we have to give some cheers to the Cube, cause personally I have to see such quality events (regarding the line-up) for years. So it's better to have some good events with these sins, rather not to have events at all.

COME ON!!!! Prometheus and John Phantasm!!!

PS: Dear Mike and Ethan...
Quote:
"U put those 2 beautiful women to dance, yet you failed to inform them about the style of music."

U do such things and u don't invite me!!! I got angry now...
LOL
The_Cube
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Posted : Dec 12, 2007 19:46
LNE78poi first of all we would like to inform you that the organisers of this event is The Cube team and since we got an account on this forum and an email and people can and do get in direct contact with us and we always answer to everyone you can also do the same.The Cube is a team and not just one or two persons.

A)Concerning Decoration we ofcourse know what it is,we featured it in all of our events in Club 22 during May and June,the reasons we didnt used deco in our events at Kingdom Club is simply because the deal between us and the club owner was not to use trance decoration in that place.Sorry we prefered to organise events in probably the best club in the country without decoration rather than rejecting making parties there because the owners didnt want trance decoration in their club.We managed to make parties in an amazing open air club with huge capacity and breathtaking view in the morning and all you could complain about was the absense of decoration?Well we cant say much,its your opinion after all,but we will use the same club in the summer and i doubt that the majority of people really cares if there is decoration on that place or not as long as we can afford hosting parties there.By the way you said that noone realized that a psy trance party was taking place there because there was no decoration?We didnt know that decoration was more important than the music and the artists in an event,thanks for letting us know,i guess that more than 1000 people came to the Talamasca and Dino Psaras event because they thought that Talamasca is the new project of Paul Oakenfold and that Dino Psaras is the brother of Paul Van Dyk.

B)We didnt need to inform any of the dancers last weekend at the Astrix event concerning the music played simply because both of them are going to psy trance parties for many years and both of them are psy trance fans and like this music a lot.Thats actually where we met those girls in the first place,in a trance party were they went just as ordinary clubbers.Suprised?Next time feel free to go up there and teach them how to dance if you feel that they dont do something right.

C)Someone mentioned earlier a thing about a fight but we dont know anything about it,if anyone has more info then please contact us in private and inform us about it.

D)Concerning the security when there is no security usually fights break up and people then complain that there was no security to prevent those fights,when there is security then people complain about the existence of security,well the truth lies somewhere in the middle i guess.In any case if you feel that someone treated you bad in one of our parties feel free to go to the entrance and ask to speak/complain to the organisers we are always there for everyone and from time to time people have come to complain to us about various things or congratulate us for our efforts.If you dont like something then all you got to do is to ask for the people in charge and speak with them about it,i guess thats what people do in all other areas (public and private sector,restaurants and so on) so why not also in parties?

We are always there to answer all your questions,solve all your problems and receive all the positive comments whenever you want to come in contact with us.Take advantage of this because we care and we do listen every opinion.

P.S Stelios you are always invited to our events so you shouldnt complain about that,i think that you coudlnt make it anyway on this one isnt that right?Xerox and Illumination live was very nice you missed a nice perfomance there mate.See you this Saturday hopefully.           The Die Is Cast
LNE78poi


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Posted : Dec 13, 2007 01:01
The_Cube, I shall have to inform you that ... anyone can arrange any artist. All you have to do is contact them. Go to their sites, find telephones or emails, explain your arrangements regarding the venue and the payments, and discuss about the date. Don't act like the man with the super connections who made the extraordinary happen. Reality is, all around the globe, ANYONE who can present himself to any artist as an organiser with a certain idea and available venue, is able to put a party together. The fact that so far organisers and club owners have been totally screwing up the artists and the fans here in Greece does not make you look like the super organiser. It's just that you guys decided to compromise more things (like the deco, the sound and friendly security for example) than the other greek organisers around you. You too have a long way to go, let me tell you.
I don't really care if those girls are party animals, which I VERY MUCH doubt, still, they failed to present a coherent picture (even though they didn't fail to present a beautiful one). If they look good as ordinary clubbers when dancing, let them stay ordinary clubbers. I would prefer to see less beautiful but more relevant people dancing in front of the dj. They very much seemed out of place.
I didn't have time to explain to the people at the door to get that arsehole friend of yours out of my face. All I needed at that point was to push my boyfriend towards the dancefloor to avoid more conflict, because your friend was shouting at my boyfriend and stared at him agressively. Imagine what would happen if I started complaining at that point too.
So don't give me that crap about talking to the organisers. Just be sure that next time you won't use macho arseholes at the door; find someone who will respect the crowd, will you?
No one said that the deco is more important than the music. I didn't say such a thing anyway. But nor the dj's or the crowd were INSPIRED by the venue. DEAL WITH THAT.
What would make me sound more interested about the music: if I said that the sound was garbage or that the deco was absent? Surprise! Guess what! Both applied in this case!
And don't fool yourself. Only Silicon Sound sounded good in Kingdom Club, whereas all the rest of the artists you've so far invited have appeared in the past in Greece giving much better sets soundwise. That includes Talamasca and Dinos Psaras. And oh, Astrix too, whose sound at the back of the club was a chaotic fuss.
Now that I remembered, in this forum, Silicon Sound also got complains that he sounded... progressive as well? no? maybe because of the lack of deco he got a bit confused too about the music that he was to play? Have you thought about it a bit?
And obviously it was the racism towards the scene that pushed you guys to arrange parties without deco. I can understand that. It's your choice to prefer getting along with the club owners than getting along with the people who support this scene. But be prepared to recieve people's disappointment too.
And man, no one asked your opinion whether "the majority of people really cares if there is decoration on that place or not as long as we can afford hosting parties there". IT IS NOT FOR YOU TO SAY. Ask us first if we want our favourite artists to be arranged by horrible organisers and humiliate our scene with tsapatsoulia. OK?
Thank you for making it clear that not the sound, or deco or friendly security are of your concerns. It seems to me that you only care about the size of the club. No problem with me!
And since we seem to disagree here, there is no need to bother you anymore. It was my last time to appear to one of your parties anyway. I happen to belong to those nuts who like fluorescenting smiles in the air, and hate bullying-for-no-reason security and "skyladiko" atmosphere.           I'm glad mushrooms are illegal.Once I took,you know what happened?I laid in a field of green grass for 4 hours, going, 'My God, I love everything.' This is a hazard to our country, how are we going to sell weapons if we realize we are all one?" Bill Hicks
The_Cube
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Posted : Dec 13, 2007 11:12
Dear LNE78poi we never claimed that we are the people with the super connections that created something extraordinary,these are your words and i dont know how you came up with this idea,actually just yesterday on the Prometheus and John Phantasm topic we said in public that we dont consider ourselves as the perfect organisers neither we put ourselves among the big organisations of Japan and Brasil but we consider ourselves as serious people who always try for the best and judging by the support of the people and the artists we believe that we are a good and most of all serious organisation,nothing more nothing less.

As about organising a party ofcourse everyone can make it happen but things are not as simple as you believe them to be especially in Greece.We never claimed that we are doing something special that noone else can do and we never said that we are doing a favour towards the people who like this music,we do these parties because we want the people and ourselves to have fun and like i said before if a profit comes along with it (something that happens very rarely in our days) then that is more than welcome.

Ever organised an event yourself by the way?I mean saying that an event is easy to organise is one thing and actually organising an event is another.

We dont compromise in our events and we always try for the best but since psy trance parties dont gather thousands of people and no sponsors are interested in financing them then we are obliged to keep a firm budget because we are not millionaires and cannot afford to loose thousands of euros after every party.We got 100 euros available to spend for organising every party and we try to spend these 100 euros the best way we can and our main issue every time is to find a good venue and most of all a safe venue,finding a serious place to host psy trance parties in Greece is almost impossible but we have managed to host events in some of the best clubs in Athens including Kingdom Club,Luv Club and Club 22,i dont think that many people can achieve that and this is something we are proud of.Ofcourse spending money in order to rent such a place means that you got a smaller budget to spend on other things like decoration for example but we always try to do our best when its possible.I really wish we had an endless budget to spend on parties in order to satisfy everyone but thats just not the case.Sorry we are not millionaires in order to create the best parties in super venues with super sound,super deco,super line ups,professional dancers,lasers and video walls and the friendliest security in the world.We still try our best though between the limits of our powers and connections.


Concerning the girl dancers we were satisfied with them along with many other people we asked about this issue,dancing is an art and each person has his own art taste,seems that you didnt like them,fair enough and your opinion is taken into consideration like everyone elses.

Concerning the people who work at the door,first of all not everyone who is at the door works for us and secondly not everyone who works for us is our friend so you can stop calling the guy who created you a problem at the door our friend on every single line.I dont even know for which person you are talking about and i dont even know what exactly happened there so unless you provide me with more info in private i cannot help you much on this issue.If you give us more info maybe we can actually do something about it and either talk to that person or even stop working with him,talking always solved a lot of problems.

Concerning decoration please express your comments freely but please avoid expressing other people's opinions,you are not in the position to know if the artists were inspired by the venues of Club 22 and Kingdom Club that lacked decoration,we are and trust me especially for Kingdom Club the artists were amazed and never even mentioned the decoration factor,couple of them actually placed Kingdom Club among the top venues they have ever performed in their careers just to let you know.

The music that the artists play is something personal and we dont and cant give instructions to them on what and when to play it.You liked Silicon Sound,someone else didnt liked him and found him progressive,i liked Dino Psaras some other people didnt like him,the majority liked Talamasca and you didnt like him,music is something very personal and we cant do anything about it.

Its not our choice to prefer getting along with the club owners instead getting along with the people who support this scene.We are obliged to do so if we want to host parties on big and nice venues like Kingdom Club,Luv Club and Club 22.If we dont get along with the club owners then we will not have any serious clubs to host events at,then we will be obliged to invite big artists in very small venues which is something we dont want at all especially after what happened when we invited Dino Psaras and Man With No Name at Pulse Club (Ex Stereo) at Psiri when we were obliged to not allow many people to enter the club due to the fact that the place was full from 3 o clock.That party by the way was supposed to take place at Fuzz Club and it was already advertised of taking place there,you dont want to know what happened and why this party changed venues.

We respect the people and we respect the club owners and if we got to choose between a big venue with no decoration and a tiny venue with decoration then sorry but we will prefer the first.Its not our fault that psy trance music is not so welcome in our country.

We care about everything,venue size,line ups,soundsystems,decoration,security,everything.Or do you think that we are happy hearing complaints like yours after every party?We just cant satisfy everyone and we do what we can best,for some thats enough,for some others thats not enough,what to do that is life.

Sorry to hear we wont see you in any of our future events because you consider us as shitty organisers who humiliate the scene,we trully wish you to find a much better organiser that can satisfy your preferences and needs and to go at his parties,we really do and hope so.           The Die Is Cast
Psy-trip


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Posted : Dec 13, 2007 16:05
I dont know about the party as i didnt attended..but i ve attended many Cube's parties and concerning the guys at the door and the guys that go around the party and watch around..they are agressive and annoying..just take care next time,talk to them and make them stop beeing like that.Its sad and anxious to have ppl like that around a party.With aggressive looks and talking bad to ppl.In Ace Ventura's party they were really loud after the party -shouting "ok lets go,lets leave thiss fucking place"i mean come oooon..smile ppl...its important and makes u feel good           ...Travelling is a way of life...
macdeath
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Posted : Dec 13, 2007 21:38
I know and appreciate that I am always invited. I sent u a pm...

Regarding the sound, that is an aspect that I want it real good at such events. I work in audio industry and I have met more "shit" sounded venues, which were not "dj"clubs but live music stages(livadika). The p.a. cannot change for one ore x trance events. So don't blame organizer about the sound!!!

I don't think that none of us prefer two parties per year (with great sound, deco and line up) than more with some sins...
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