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The collapse of old labels
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ChoBo
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Posted : May 9, 2004 17:03
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I dont understand one thing, how did labels such as Matsuri, Flying Rhino , MDMA , blueroom and other earlier labels collapse. Was this all due to the fact that they went bankrupt? If it is due to that, how was it possible, werent they doing well? |
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : May 9, 2004 17:53
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well Chobo u answerd half of your Q' cause if they did go bankrupt it can only happen if they werent doing well...
but im not sure if that was the reason.....maybe some one else can give u an answer and not only try to be a smart ass like me...
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DeathPosture
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Posted : May 9, 2004 19:31
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I'm sure someone will go deeper into this, but I've often heard that bad management and heavy drug abuse caused at least a few of the giant labels to go under... Sad really!
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psilocybe
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Posted : May 9, 2004 20:32
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i'd have to go out on a limb and point out the obvious: how do u expect small labels to survive the mp3 phenomenon..??
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DeathPosture
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Posted : May 9, 2004 22:21
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Of course mp3 piracy plays a central role... But I believe labels like Matsuri and Blue Room went down before piracy was a big problem...
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ChoBo
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Posted : May 10, 2004 01:05
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I dont think those labels were small and if i am not mistaken they did pretty well during those times. Yea i didnt think that mp3 was a big problem at that time, or was it? |
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nobody_3
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Posted : May 10, 2004 08:17
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They went bankrupt because the distributors (specific one very big distributor) failed to pay them their money owed to them.
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ShivaS
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Posted : May 10, 2004 08:57
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all labels failed cause of 1 distributor?!
seems like they invested all of their money into it?:)
labels from israel, japan, uk...
hard to beleive.
may be there were several usual things like mp3, marketing, distribution and so on...
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PKS
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Posted : May 10, 2004 10:07
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Matsuri stopped because Mr. Suzuki wanted to go another direction.... One of their last compilations was "Let It RIP", which meant the goa sound... He and his "gang" has started some kind of hard house label in Japan, still going strong:)
About Blue Room, I think the guys who ran Blue Room had a hard time working with the Electric M.E.L.T. company or something like that. The guy who ran Blue Room explained it in an e-mail a couple of years ago, but I can't remember the details. There had been some arguing there.
About MDMA, I think they just changed to other labels. The same guys are still working with various psytrance labels I think.
About Flying Rhino. Yes, I'm sure the distribution probably has had a lot to do with their bankrupt. During the last couple of years Flying Rhino released music, they started to release very minimal and also average stuff. This resulted for sure in less records sold... But a lot of the artists that released on Flying Rhino, are now releasing music on Flow Records and Candyflip Records. James Monro has also become a label dj for Candyflip.
With other words, at least most of them are still around. But there are some artists that has completly dissappeared, like Deviant Electronics, Acid Rockers and Spectral... Where are they?
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ChoBo
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Posted : May 10, 2004 11:38
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Now that clears things up a bit for me, thanks PKS  i think the artists you mentioned could have moved on. |
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Hodi
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Posted : May 10, 2004 16:02
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i think that's it's all the new very small labels around that came like a mushrooms after the rain..
and it's not hard to understand why.
u can find "Anything U Want" using the search... |
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mirageman
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Posted : May 11, 2004 00:28
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Flying Rhino fell because Lucas, it's then manager decided to quit due to lack of support from the label founders, who then decided to fold the label. |
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mirageman
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Posted : May 11, 2004 00:33
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Flying Rhino fell because Lucas, it's then manager decided to quit due to lack of support from the label founders, who then decided to fold the label. |
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ChoBo
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Posted : May 11, 2004 02:30
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lack of support? In what way mirage? |
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blueOrb
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Posted : May 11, 2004 12:14
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actually internationally seein the music market psy trance hardly has any buyers and in such conditions small label are ought to feel the pinch some time or the other.....secondly the mp3s also take away like 50-60% of sales in my view.......its a tough market for psy in my views
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