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_> the Best and the Worst things For Trance?

wicc@


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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 16:02
the worst in greek parties may be the lack of interest to help some ppl that are into a bad trip, maybe iz not a lack of interest at all, but a lack of experience... for example, if someone is having bad trip, the usual reaction in greece is to stay aside and watch! instead of do something to help him/her out. i speak for the majority of ppl, while some are deep interested,but unfortunately not always around.. i enjoy very much in parties when friend that i havent seen for long time come and say "hi,how r u?all ok?" that gives a pleasure that someone cares..
i think we shud care more about each other, and protect more each other, coze as we know, sometimes a party fall out from beeing safe for some of us..
that all goes for me too, as i just nowdaz realized that i dont have the experience and maybe not be able to help some1 in such situation, as i can hardly help myself from being too trippy dancing most of times..
but i promise myself , from now on to be more care-full and watch out for myself and others.
big respect
big boom
hugz

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even the smallest light, ShInEs In The DarkNess..
virava


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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 21:06
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 21:12
worst thing is that people think parties is juts i have money and contacts an i just make them there i ssomething called repect to the 1s that make longer time ,like Detox and Natural High who are the oldest left
trance orginizers in athens so it easy u have to see and ask and talk with them to see dates things or else lets day u make it and u lose money cose 2-3 parties same night then he club owner with trow u out with kicks.
very easy older means more orginized in all maters and more conections...so if u like to amke something u see all toghther to get a nice comunication
virava


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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 21:29
thanks for mentioning also, but may i ask you:

why is it the worst thing 2 or 3 parties to happen the same date? i think it s one of the best things, not the worst one. maybe it s bad for the economics of some organizers, but not bad for the scene surely..

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as for respect, i personally give always more than respect to those who contact me for arranging dates.
an example is our last party which changed from 1/12 to 8/12 and to 15 finally.
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 21:35
cose some times we close club before long time and we cant guess that the other orginizers have planed 4 month a head , so we cant cancell cose well wont be ok with the club , and whne new orginizers do 1-2 3 parties and lose money they disapear cose to make a party it cost like 1000 to 20.000 buggests depents names ,clubs ask 1500 and up per night
so by friend virava even in politenupoli if they cant make expences from the bar they disapear as many in the past, so what is the piont making same night
only if u have money to trough away,cose dont think free and a good artist ,always people will go to free
i v seen politenupoli with 200 poeople and c + with 700 same night ,but also iv seen vis versa. so no piont both lose. but the piont is who will go on
gutter
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 15:48

.. drug attitude

it is not bad someone to expand his/her perception & explore the consciousness of soul , never was
.. trance is a state of mind , pure & beautiful

.. parties and events are made to keep the vibe alive , not to become drug addicted

.. we all know that psychedelic drugs , entheogens etc are not addictive substances ... but anyway i think everyone understands what im trying to say

the music revolution of the 60s-70s was something extraordinary beautiful to happen , the right thing at the right place , with so much impression to the people & therefore the music
"the flower children of the revolution"
and it was destroyed
...by drugs

psychedelic trance is not the same of course politically movement ,at least with the same impression ,
but shares the same values, the same vibe

people cant just be so egoist to get tired of overusing mind expanding - or just - plain addictive drugs ..
..and again people who are tired and "move away" from the scene are usually people who are tired of the drug attitude they were into

.. sublime unity

Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 19:18
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On 2008-02-15 15:48, gutter wrote:


the music revolution of the 60s-70s was something extraordinary beautiful to happen , the right thing at the right place , with so much impression to the people & therefore the music
"the flower children of the revolution"
and it was destroyed
...by drugs





Back then the "flower generation" destroyed by drugs because the political system wanted to vanish them and confuse them and the public opinion.
It was the system's success that this happened back then.
But nowdays it wasn't the system that wanted the psychedelic movement to fall into the same trap of drugs but THE F**CKING ORGANIZERS AND THE DRAG DEALERS AND THE GANGSTERS who wanted to get rich from the whole situation.
They created serious damage to the scene.
But the scene still holds...(WITH A LOT OF CASUALITIES)
And it's in our hands if WE LET THEM HAVE THE SAME SUCCESS with the system's suceess on the "flower generation".

Just say no : to drugs - to drugdealers -to gangsters - to mindless organizers- to mindless parties.............
It's all about the money and the personal profit now and not about filosophy or political reasons...

SOME EVIL PEOPLE PLAYED WITH OUR HEADS.
DON'T LET THEM TO CONTINUE DOING IT.

The future of this scene depends on the psy-lovers and the common people because THEY ARE THE SCENE.....

**********JUST SAY NO*****************


          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
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Moonsun Records

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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 20:05


changes happen world wide
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 20:07
the clubing rule and concept has been from the 60s like this, even the beatles had security
and in clubs was same rule then, u jsut see it with another eye today ,also had 5-6 security guards
when something bad happened they had to trow people out ,so what is the difference now ,
in the 70s the hippy cults sold opium and heroin
and were 1 of the scandals world wide then
have u see amercian ganster the movie its based on a realy story,see it to get the idea, that todays is the next generation, but everything we got was already made by others. trance has it bad name cose people want power and are greedy as in life, flower children were free in there mind didnt want homes or money,
some people want it today but also want to have dvd and pc home ,nothing related my friends to the idiology ,if u want to be a hippy leave in goa poor ,
thats the idea of it ,i hear so many stuff on net each day have u ever realated things in this world as cosmic ,which means a open mind ,but to live also normal lifes with money nice house family ,but also be spiritual. think about it what u want cose behing something people see ur enot is nothing close to haveing a 3 eye opened or being spiritual, mostly is
being a show of to me, plus 1 more thing clubs have never changed atitude , they just get expencive as the country economy goes up, have u ever guessed that euro destroyed draxma ,and it was out countreis money curancy, and know we try to live as the hole europe,but we are more expencive in life ,only uk is over us. in germany a coffie costs 1 -2 euros and here its costs 4-5 in a cafe, so what do u expect to pay in parties with so many expences, in 2003 samothraki was 150 thousend draxmas u know in euors what that is ,also clubs then were 10.000 to 15.000 draxmas a night ,make that in euros and see
5 years later free are about the same...
gutter
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Posted : Feb 19, 2008 13:00
Quote:
in the 70s the hippy cults sold opium and heroin



& in Kypseli you can see some Xrysaygites junkies ,, what does this mean ??

theres a big difference in being awake & heading straight for something

& be druged to follow something

Quote:
trance has it bad name cause people want power and are greedy as in life



trance is beautiful & SICK LOSERS THAT SELL DRUGS MUST NOT RELY ON WEEKEND PARTIES AND CHILDREN LOOKING FOR "PAKIA" & SKATAKIA TO FULFILL THEIR POCKETS ..

its just something that at last has to be said & never stop ,

we cannot be Ghandies , we wont go to live in Goa

we just dont have to fall in junkie-minded-situation shit ...
neither to accept myths that suits some people


Epsylon
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Posted : Mar 2, 2008 17:50
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On 2008-02-19 13:00, gutter wrote:
& in Kypseli you can see some Xrysaygites junkies ,, what does this mean ??



did yopu mean: 'Xrysaygites AND junkies' ??
afaik using drugs in the extreme right circles of politics is absolutely unacceptable with a 'zero tollerance' policy.

c k
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 3, 2008 10:20
no friend , I mean the
there are people who are there are junkies Xrysaygites

it was a "so what" answer to the
Quote:
in the 70s the hippy cults sold opium and heroin



to prove that whatever someone "claims to be"
doesnt mean that he is

when he is addicted - is sick -- theres no will -- no aspects ..

....

as for the XRYSA-AYGA - those idiots -

they have even Alvanous among them -- if u want believe it or not --

& u know why??? because those "typakia"

carry knives and are not afraid to stick them upon your body

where the ellinakia voutyro-mpempedes vlaxo-ethnikistes dont do that

THATS WHY THE USE OTHERS - EVEN THE ONES THEY
SWEAR ABOUT

THIS IS KSEFTILA ...

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