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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 19:58
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On 2010-07-14 12:27, razzz_ wrote:
maybe here and there some old obscure tracks, but a full album you probably won't find :/
too bad, it's one of the best suomisaundii albums imo
I agree, but to give you an idea of where to look:
some old texas faggott songs (mikseri, thixxndixx, first 2 albums), some songs on the latest mandalavandalz album (king of the bad trips), some scozbor songs, some nam shub of enki songs, and in some other places too as long as it's old enough... Well, you catch my drift "The price of freedom is responsibility, but it's a bargain, because freedom is priceless." - Hugh Downs
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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 20:09
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On 2010-07-22 02:10, Basilisk wrote:
Here are a few Suomi-style releases on Ektoplazm...
Fantastic...I actually think its a shame this style has evolved to be called something as forgettable as "Suomi"...
To me suomi has basically become what I use to expect from psytrance. A preview starts and I dont have the slightest idea what its going to sound like. On the other hand trolling albums on saiksounds, if the description mentions spiritual stuff and dance floors i expect to hear a full on baseline and cliche, if it mentions anything even remotely dark or intense i expect to hear a deep machine gun bassline..sad thing is this simple heuristic is right 95% of the time.
You should consider pimping this stuff more as just modern psytrance. Suomi to me will always be associated with Texas Faggot/Denmark/and weird 303 disco music...as opposed to what its become which is basically "anything goes"..
Hmm, to me, before it even had a name, between 1998 and 2002, that was the 'anything goes' period of what we call suomi or suomisaundi or spugedelic or finnish goatrance today. That mentality still exists luckily, but to me it got watered down a bit. There are more albums being released these days, but less of them show the 'anything goes' mentality. This is only natural of course, I don't have a problem with this, DnB was much more 'anything goes' in its first years too... But you seem to say that it 'became' anything goes, and with that I can't agree... Also: Denmark???
I did love the way you explained the heuristic way of knowing what to buy on saikosounds. It was very recognisable "The price of freedom is responsibility, but it's a bargain, because freedom is priceless." - Hugh Downs
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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 20:21
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On 2010-04-14 07:27, *eLliSDee* wrote:
i dont know what the hell is meant my soumi but i dig this guy music.
http://www.myspace.com/namshubofenki maybe this is more spank-adelic
that is a mix of spugedelic (aka suomi), breakcore and techno (He also works in collaborations but that is always slanted towards the breakcore side, so I guess that is his biggest flank) Love that guy's music, really really fun stuff.
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On 2010-07-24 06:20, mica wrote:
would Loopus in Fabula be considered in this Suomi style?
I have heard people call them disco trance
that's progressive, obviously even. But it is very happy, with clear disco influences, so it was great to have next to the old squaremeats and other funky goatrance.
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Posted : Jul 24, 2010 20:32
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Naming a style is a tricky matter... there is a certain amount of historic precedent involved--hence "Suomi" despite the fact that many acts writing music in this style are from Israel and Australia. Same with darkpsy, a lot of which isn't dark. Style naming is often locked in at some point--after some kind of skirmish in the court of public opinion. To cite one example of this process: we don't see the term "neuro-trance" bandied around much more.
So what is it going to be for "Suomi"? I've taken to calling it "Suomi & Freestyle" in my own naming conventions, while sorting tunes for DJing. "Freestyle" is a bit of a lame term to use, however--particularly given that it has already been applied to another kind of music entirely. "Experimental"? There is too much of a cohesive vibe to call it that. Frankly, I'm at a bit of a loss. I also don't know what to call Prometheus or Hux Flux a lot of the time--so I unfairly lump it in with full-on or progressive depending on the BPM when sorting my collection. Really, it's all psytrance but it helps to give people a place to begin understanding where it all fits into the big picture.
That being said, if someone has another inclusive term to describe the music of EvsY, Sattel Battle, Freeform Human, Crazy Ducks, Ex Uus, Texas Faggott, etc... well, I'm all ears
It's a shame that there isn't any decent name in the public that includes the Australians and by now lots of other countries that produce this kind of freeform goatrance. So I prefer spugedelic, because it doesn't directly refer to a country or language (but it's still Helsinki slang :/) and because there is a funny anecdote associated with it.
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Posted : Jul 25, 2010 16:40
“Spugedelic” is a cool name. I personally call it “the jazz of psy trance”, but it’s probably too long of a name to catch on.
But what’s wrong with “Suomi”? So what that it’s produced outside Finnland? There is Nitzhonot produced in Belgium (not to mention Greece) – it’s still “Nitzhonot”. And Goa is Goa, no matter where it’s produced, right?
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Posted : Jul 26, 2010 01:16
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On 2010-07-20 21:50, Dark el kante wrote:
Soon (probably in September will be released) an 3xcd benefit compilation to support and indigenous tribe in Colombia called Cofanes, with a suomisaundi cd, here some info: http://forum.isratrance.com/indigenous-s-o-s-benefit-project-v-a-coming-soon/ Cover artwork by Izwoz: To listen: http://www.arabesquedistribution.com//index.php?option=com_artistavenue&task=singleCd&id=2281&Itemid=99999999 Tracklist of the suomisoundi cd:
01-Sattel Battle - Ohm Edition
02-Crazy ducks - Pitriya under water (Sygmatix rmx)
03-Freeform Human - Bonus Level
04-Decibel - Mirror ball suit
05-Special Blend - Probability vs possibility
06-Alien stamp - Not so soft Micro
07-Aavepyörä - Crusaders of The Crystal Matrix
08-Oikeusjyvä - Country Side Flip
09-Texas Faggott - Polina In The Fog
10-Club Kooma -Kopio juokse keniaan
11-Crazy Ducks- King Quaquack
Wonderful initiative!!
I'll buy this for sure, thanks for create such an inspiring piece
On 2010-07-24 20:09, FREGLE wrote:
Hmm, to me, before it even had a name, between 1998 and 2002, that was the 'anything goes' period of what we call suomi or suomisaundi or spugedelic or finnish goatrance today. That mentality still exists luckily, but to me it got watered down a bit. There are more albums being released these days, but less of them show the 'anything goes' mentality. This is only natural of course, I don't have a problem with this, DnB was much more 'anything goes' in its first years too... But you seem to say that it 'became' anything goes, and with that I can't agree... A
Yea I soppose I'm just lamenting that we haven't got the true breakoff genre like what breakcore/harsher IDM/some idm influenced powernoise is to DNB. Those have been the best pre dubstep shows I went too. It kind of fell under the name breakcore but certainly had very little to do with dnb at that point besides for very basic structures riffs and tempo, even with a lot of artists not considering themselves breakcore per se.
I actually like when things got watered down a bit, like Texas Faggots early stuff is too much to me as far as anything goes.
Pilluminati Cunt Roll though to me is just a baddass psychedelic trance album.
Just case in point, not a lot of suomi influence in this IMO sound wise..just baddass psychedelic trance.
To get academic what I also love about this style is actually the lower production standards. You really can't have that harsh lead with modern production..it would have its balls cutoff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_in_a_vat
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^
It may be strange, but I also like the shorter length of Suomi tracks. Somehow 5-6 min tracks agree with me better than 8-10 min ones. But that's just a small technical detail. It's the humorous attitude I love most.
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Posted : Aug 5, 2010 14:38
Calamar Audio - Squid Fluid
deep liquid nightime sound...verrrry funky.
it's not the livesounding freestyle soumi you guys are talking about but check it out anyway.
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Posted : Aug 6, 2010 10:02
Calamar album i like a lot!
For guys who dig more crazy stuff try also PeLinPaLa first album "My Cd Has Landed On The Next Door Neighbours Dog", a bit more jazz Also my support for Indigenous SOS!
Loopus is playng many styles, i say more like a groove salad carpe diem
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CheeRz
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On 2010-07-24 06:20, mica wrote:
would Loopus in Fabula be considered in this Suomi style?
I have heard people call them disco trance
thats more prog/minimal , but in the first haltya album he colibrated with them for a track so many think he is finnish , but actualy italiano
actually, the 5.55 track on the first haltya album was a collaboration between 4 people: us and loopus in fabula. jacopo barbaccia was one half of loopus in fabula back then. nice times "no one ever sweats on a plug-in" -moby
It was very recognisable 
