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Stupid question...maybe (harmonics) eq
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 12, 2009 16:05
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another good way kane! but i cant help mixing on the fly.
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orbit
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 10:01
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On 2009-04-11 20:26, jizy wrote:
qotation from Mixing Audio by Roey Izhaki
HARMONICS- "Freqencies that are an integer multiple of the fundamentle. eq fundamentle of 100hz the harmonics would be 200,300,400,500hz and so forth.Harmonics are an extremely influential part of sounds-we say the fundamentle gives the sounds its pitch and the harmonics give the colour.
OVERTONES-(SPEADFREKAS)- Freqs that are not necessarily an integer multiple of the fundimentle.A FReq of 150hz would mean an overtone 100hz fundimentle. Snares tend to have a very vague pitch , but produce lots of noise-a typical sound caused dominant overtones.
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hey champs,
i was always under the impression (using your example)that harmonics were double of the previous freqs. i.e. 100,200,400,800 so on, and inharmonics were i suppose in between i.e. 150,300,600,1200 etc.
Am i totally wrong on this? |
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Kane
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 12:58
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On 2009-04-15 10:01, orbit wrote:
hey champs,
i was always under the impression (using your example)that harmonics were double of the previous freqs. i.e. 100,200,400,800 so on, and inharmonics were i suppose in between i.e. 150,300,600,1200 etc.
Am i totally wrong on this?
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Half right.
If the fundamental is 440hz (the note A, to keep it simple), the the harmonics will be 440, 880, 1320, 1760, etc.
So, fundamental, 2 x fundamental, 3 x fundamental, etc.
Doubling the frequency like you're describing yields the octave of the fundamental, so since A4 = 440hz, A5 = 880hz.
You're right about the inharmonic part. Pretty straightforward..any frequency that is not the fundamental a harmonic of it.
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 16:54
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so u get that similar effect sound using waves doubler i guess?,
also i guess thas the reason why combfiltering can accurr in poor treated rooms or wierd phases because of the multiple harmonics which why certain ones needed to be eq'd out carfully.
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R2D2
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 16:58
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Comb filtering is not specific to the fundamental of a sound but the time delay created by relationship of direct and reflected sound. |
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 18:15
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i know its not percific to the fundimentle i was talking about multiples of reflection cause by harmonics? dunno.
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*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Apr 15, 2009 18:52
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On 2009-04-12 16:02, jizy wrote:
brilliant book!
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Mixing Audio by Roey Izhaki -->I'll keep an eye out for that one,.
for me; "The Art Of Mixing, A Visual Guide To Recording By David Gibson" was good reading
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orbit
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 13:33
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On 2009-04-15 12:58, Kane wrote:
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On 2009-04-15 10:01, orbit wrote:
hey champs,
i was always under the impression (using your example)that harmonics were double of the previous freqs. i.e. 100,200,400,800 so on, and inharmonics were i suppose in between i.e. 150,300,600,1200 etc.
Am i totally wrong on this?
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Half right.
If the fundamental is 440hz (the note A, to keep it simple), the the harmonics will be 440, 880, 1320, 1760, etc.
So, fundamental, 2 x fundamental, 3 x fundamental, etc.
Doubling the frequency like you're describing yields the octave of the fundamental, so since A4 = 440hz, A5 = 880hz.
You're right about the inharmonic part. Pretty straightforward..any frequency that is not the fundamental a harmonic of it.
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yeh nice one  glad to clear this up. thought my world was turned upside down for a second there hehehe. |
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 15:26
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On 2009-04-11 02:39:27, Adharaguy wrote:
Ok guys, another maybe stupid question.
When we analise the frequencie of one instrument, the peaks that istrument produce(frequencies) , is the harmonic or fundamental frequencie of that instrument right??
So when we are eqing that instrument is good trying to smood that peaks off, turning the all spectrum more constant, or thats is a wrong way to work.
A friend mine tell me that we have to try to cut that peaks off....but now im a little confuse because if that peaks are the harmonics of the sound (i thing)why to try cut them out???
Sorry....i have warned....this a stupid question...
Thanks guys.
Just try to clean my mind.
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you don t need to cut them, you don t even need to look at a analyser just maybe for the low end it can help,keep things simple , the more processing the more chance you have to make things sound worst...,make some nice sound on your synths ,then few eq bands are enought.tracks with no eq can sound already good just to tell you that it s not the magic weapon that make things sound great, just a tool to help ... make things sound ok with no eq then start equing |
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 15:30
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 15:30
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very true, in other words i tight filter envelope and minimal cutoff on the bass will hopefully prevent u from using an eq in the 350-800hz region
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Posted : Apr 20, 2009 12:29
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the easiest way to make the bass line and kick to cooperate is with same synth.(if that kind of clipping is in the game)
find synth that can modulate with filter envelope a pitch of sine wave oscilator(sylenth1...)- for uber psy kick
u can find bass line programming tutor here http://www.darksonus.com/DS_articles_main.php
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 20, 2009 15:53
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can u elaborate mate? so what u mean is, no what do u mean?
i just make a bass from whatever synth then a kick from bazzsm or kontakt, i purposly make the kick have massive lows to tune it with the bass so i can hear the fundimentles clearer, then correct the levels or vice verser.
thanks for link by the way
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 20, 2009 19:22
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On 2009-04-20 12:29, vafl wrote:
the easiest way to make the bass line and kick to cooperate is with same synth.(if that kind of clipping is in the game)
find synth that can modulate with filter envelope a pitch of sine wave oscilator(sylenth1...)- for uber psy kick
u can find bass line programming tutor here http://www.darksonus.com/DS_articles_main.php
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hey mate works wonders cheers
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