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Stupid question...maybe (harmonics) eq
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Adharaguy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 02:39:27
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Ok guys, another maybe stupid question.
When we analise the frequencie of one instrument, the peaks that istrument produce(frequencies) , is the harmonic or fundamental frequencie of that instrument right??
So when we are eqing that instrument is good trying to smood that peaks off, turning the all spectrum more constant, or thats is a wrong way to work.
A friend mine tell me that we have to try to cut that peaks off....but now im a little confuse because if that peaks are the harmonics of the sound (i thing)why to try cut them out???
Sorry....i have warned....this a stupid question...
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 05:44
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because some harmonics within the sound are to harsh, so attunate some of the harsh ones, for example i got a bass rollin at fundimentle 48hz (g#1) and i got a harsh harmonic freq at 80hz, so i use a wide q at
-3db to ease the tone and shape the sound to how i want it. others maybe at 160hz 350hz, ozone is great for this job as it has a spectrum analizer in the Eq.
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Adharaguy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 15:00
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MMM....soo the point is, try to smood that picks off, in a way to bring the "right" harmonics up???
If that is the point, im starting understand the point of view..
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 15:10
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 16:55
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i never mentioned cutting the fundamentle
just certain harmonix within that note
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 16:56
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i recomend using graphic eq on bass, more precise. remove 300hz, sounds shit? put it back etc
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Suloo
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 17:17
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I think he means to sweep through the sound with a full parametric eq , with a very small q factor and highest gain..and as soon as you here a harsh or boomy frequency remove it and the sound will be clearer at all..even if you don`t do this it might be possible to hurt your ears if played on a big pa..so called bad frequencys has nothing to do with harmonics at all..
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Adharaguy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 17:42
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AH AH....Ok guys...now i see it 
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 18:09
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 18:32
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In addition to some excellent advice already given...
bad freqs are often harmonics (ie multiplies of the fundamental frequency)... especially in bass, but no absolute rules at all. They can also be inharmonics - but checking the harmonics is a very good place to start!
You are not trying to make things smoother in the analyzer per se (well not at this stage ), just get rid of that which does not sound smooth - which may or may not be smooth to the eye in the analyzer.
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 19:26
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DEFO FREAKA... like i said these harmonix will apear as spikes
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 20:26
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qotation from Mixing Audio by Roey Izhaki
HARMONICS- "Freqencies that are an integer multiple of the fundamentle. eq fundamentle of 100hz the harmonics would be 200,300,400,500hz and so forth.Harmonics are an extremely influential part of sounds-we say the fundamentle gives the sounds its pitch and the harmonics give the colour.
OVERTONES-(SPEADFREKAS)- Freqs that are not necessarily an integer multiple of the fundimentle.A FReq of 150hz would mean an overtone 100hz fundimentle. Snares tend to have a very vague pitch , but produce lots of noise-a typical sound caused dominant overtones.
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Kane
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Posted : Apr 11, 2009 22:28
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And you generally shouldn't go out of your way to make anything "flat" when eqing. Those peaks are giving the sound its character.
I recommend keeping your eqs there (not bouncing if possible) until you're done with the track. Then when your entire mix is finished, go through and turn them off and back on one by one while the rest of the track is playing. What sounds bad (in terms of freq. response) alone often sounds good in context.
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x-rayz
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Posted : Apr 12, 2009 13:35
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 12, 2009 16:02
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brilliant book!
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