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Posted : Jan 26, 2010 17:20
1 + 2 = 3.
2 + 1 = 3.
So in the end, you have the same shit.
Dogon
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Posted : Jan 26, 2010 19:27
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On 2010-01-26 17:20, John Doe® wrote:
1 + 2 = 3.
2 + 1 = 3.
So in the end, you have the same shit.
but if you forget mathematics & equate:
1 + 1 = 2 + 1
It's not the same shit!
We were born naked & grow up to become wicked.
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Posted : Jan 27, 2010 12:24
heh, who cares in the end? jsut buy cds and enjoy your parties
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Posted : Jan 27, 2010 14:29
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On 2010-01-26 14:14, Buddha Monkey wrote:
I think it would be more relevant to start a topic either of "stop calling house n' electro psy trance" n' also add inthr neo full on shite going around...
LOLZ at the nrg ov a dark part... Went to heaps in Japan in 2006 and were the most positive experiences in 11+ years of psy trancing!
I went also at the same time to many prog/full on that were just full of sleazy E heads fuckin each other and molesting the girls!!
Keep it psychedelic no sleazedelic!
Ps 666 is the sign of the beast, but this has never truly been prove to mean Satan, so you're wrong with assuming it brings satanic vibes LOL do some fucking research before judging you dope headed hippies LOL
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Ps I don't mind prog as music but geez it attracts a sleazy crowd!!
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Posted : Jan 27, 2010 15:23
the MDMA/coke/ketamine to psychedelics ratio depends on more than just the music you are playing
mostly, I think, it depends on whether it is an indoor or outdoor party
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Posted : Jan 28, 2010 18:26
Shawnodese . you say all the dark parties you have played on have had this horrible atmosphere ? I know i have been to several where you have played and i have loved it big time !! None of these problems you see at all !!!
What to be so afraid of ???
So have others.. Like the last festival Dark Magic Story, you were not happy in the goabase review altough almost all others were super happy and really only sad of the low turnout...
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Posted : Jan 28, 2010 19:23
people dont like to go to work
but they still do it
cuz if they dont they will be homeless
When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
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Posted : Jan 28, 2010 19:33
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On 2010-01-28 19:23, Xolvexs wrote:
people dont like to go to work
but they still do it
cuz if they dont they will be homeless
I would not compare DJing at dark festivals, to say, doing the night shift at macDonalds...unless you double drop in your water and the customers' big macs. after that, let the good times roll.
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Posted : Jan 28, 2010 19:55
no less than 5 years, i think 8)
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 06:05
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On 2010-01-28 19:23, Xolvexs wrote:
people dont like to go to work
but they still do it
cuz if they dont they will be homeless
I would not compare DJing at dark festivals, to say, doing the night shift at macDonalds...unless you double drop in your water and the customers' big macs. after that, let the good times roll.
really what's your problem ?
i see your replies in every thread related to darkpsy in every section in this forum. and every single one is either demeaning to the genre or offtopic (in a 'humouristic' way).
really why don't you bother mostly with things you love?
feed me lepricons :D
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Posted : Feb 3, 2010 06:08
Fometrius
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The whole issue about the so called "dark psy" is quit interesting,we all have different opinions about it.Myself I listen alot to some producers that one might call dark psy
I also listen alot to goa,ambient non cheesy full on etc.But the hard twilight sounds are really magnetic to me.What i am looking for is mystical,spiritual,mind exploring,powerfull twilight vibes and not some kind of bad stuff which promotes doing bad stuff to others and glorifies evil.
There is alot of stuff that is very hard and powerfull,uses much fx and creates new kinds of leads and got a mystical atmosphere but has nothing to do with anything that is evil or that tries to invoke anything that promotes that.It just want to be psychedelic,take you on a journey and make you open up yourself and explore
This style feels very refreshing,it tries new concepts and new ways to express itself.It`s very unique and complex.You often hear combinations of sounds you never heard before.
For me the so called dark psy has nothing to do with evil,it`s just about the raw strong force that gives me energy and the hypnotic trance state that this music can set you in if you allow it to.
I feel that much of this style can take one very deep inside,the right tracks under the right situations are really unlocking many doors inside you and really opens you up.Thats why i like it so much,because it dares to cross borders,to enter unexplored areas,to be unique,to find new ways to express it self ,to really push it and open up the mind.
I love nature,animals and want everyone to feel good and to stop being egocentric. Many people who likes this style seems to be the same,of course then there is some people who might not be like that and think that it is good to be what we call evil .
To be evil is to be egocentric.To be what we call good is to feel the connection with everyone else
and care about others.To feel the chain of life that everyone and everything is a link of.The devil is a symbol for the ego and god is a symbol for the connection of all life and everyone caring about each other since everyone is the same thing.
Some would probably think that the feeling of strong hate is evil,but then again it`s about why it`s there and how you use it.If you hate something that is bad and wrong say for example the destruction of nature,the cruelty in the meat industry and so on then the hate is good ,just as it is good if you feel hate if someone attacks you or your family ,children or friends. Then you can transform the hate into something good. We hate when we see something that is wrong,thats why we can feel that emotion,to help ourselfes or others when things are not as they should be.
Our planet is in great danger and so are all the different lifeforms.There is extreme unbelievable suffering in the planet among the animals and in the meatindustries which are everywhere and is huge. This is a really critical moment for the future of all life on this place
We hate what destroys what we love.
I view dark psy a bit as a fire,the fire is not bad in itself,it`s all about how you use it.There is like a raw powerfull force in much twilight music and the force is not bad in itself it`s about how you use it.Think of a sword ,a sword can be used in unfair and bad situations but it can also help others,defend others and slay monsters. You get the point
This music style can set you in a deep trance state and let you explore yourself and your subconscious parts,and go beyond what you think is you.It can open up unexplained realms inside you and give you a key to doors that you never have gone through before.
This music is like a part of a bigger wheel(the psytrance wheel),there are different parts (goa,full on etc) and they are all combined togheter and are supposed to be mixed to cover the whole spectrum and explore as much as possible inside the listener.It`s different cogs of the same wheel,just like all of your layers of your "I".
I recomend some stuff here:
Twilight,night psy:(a bit slower bpm then the fastest stuff and with more melodies) : Phatmatix, Abomination , Shift, Digital talk,Menog, Phyx, Rabdom L,Hydraglyph, Tryambaka, Akros, Khopat,Sidharta,Zion linquist, Tryon ,Killer buds ,Kluster ,Outer signal
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Posted : Feb 8, 2010 10:36
About the word "dark psy" that is labelled for much stuff because it got a hard ,fat bass and uses lots of psychedelic sounds with a high bpm i think it often can be misleading.
Much people can think of it as something negative just because of the name "dark".Many artist that just wants to put up some powerfull psychedelic music are classed as "dark psy" . For some people it`s like a map ,a map called "dark psy" and everything that is in there is evil and bad.And as fast as they hear something that is psychedelic ,mind twisting ,fast, powerfull and has a deep strong base they call it dark and place it in that map.
Personally i dont bother about the name so much,since i know what i like and are after and i also know that the intention behind most of the producers that are classed dark psy are good and is about making the listener travel inside and get in the psychedelic state.It`s strong spiritual and powerfull vibes that helps you break the matrix.
Myself i usually dont use the word dark psy, i often say stuff like, hard psy,fast psy,night psy,twilight psy or something like that,or just psytrance.Because many people associate the word "dark psy" with something bad and evil just because of the word dark.
Just because a song contains a fat bass ,high bpm,squelchy sounds,has a mystical atmosphere and uses new kinds of structured psychedelic leads and sounds does not make it bad or evil.
I would like to seperate the songs with lots of gore samples and horror screams and that only seems to be focusing on those kinds of things(i dont listen to that kind of stuff) from stuff like derango,phatmatix,shift,atriohm etc since they clearly are very different things. The names i mentioned are about setting you in a deep psychedelic state ,make you travel and give you an inner experience .
One should call the stuff with horror movies samples,screams,gore influences etc for horror psy or something like that and could use words like twilight psy ,night psy for harder stuff if one dont want to use the word dark psy for it (which seems to be the label for all psytrance that has a fat deep base and high bpm) .One can also call it hard psytrance or just psytrance.Because that`s exactly what it is, psychedelic trance!
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Posted : Feb 8, 2010 13:10
It's like heavy metal... Many think all heavy metal is death & demonic worship but a fair whack such as NWOBHM n' power metal.
As such there are the violent & demon based trance trax, but I'd say Ocelot, KDD, Cosmo, Furious, Highko, Psykovsky are farrrrrrr from that... I mean P.S.Y.Love You ain't sounding to demoni or horror to me huh?
So I think a lot of the haters of this style need to open their eyes & ears to see it ain't all evil and stuff but damn fine electronic music with a very trippy happy psy touch!
I love this style I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 8, 2010 13:20
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On 2010-02-03 06:05, remote wrote:
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On 2010-01-28 19:33, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2010-01-28 19:23, Xolvexs wrote:
people dont like to go to work
but they still do it
cuz if they dont they will be homeless
I would not compare DJing at dark festivals, to say, doing the night shift at macDonalds...unless you double drop in your water and the customers' big macs. after that, let the good times roll.
really what's your problem ?
i see your replies in every thread related to darkpsy in every section in this forum. and every single one is either demeaning to the genre or offtopic (in a 'humouristic' way).
really why don't you bother mostly with things you love?
Read carefuly, you don't have to to understand what I wrote, cause I stated the obvious...but I guess you need to. How am I demeaning the genre by saying that DJing at dark festivals is not something you find your self forcing to do, to pay the rent? Its something people would love to do, whereas working at a fast food restaurant is something that a lot of people end up doing, cause (in most cases unless some people like it) there is simply nothing better to do.
Obviously Shawnodese likes to DJ and I don't think he is complaining about the way the DJing market is going, that he has to play dark festivals to make a living.
I am not the one with the problem mate.
Next time check yo' self before you wreck yo' self, innit.
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