stop calling psy dark

On 2009-10-07 17:51, Shiranui wrote:
Saying fullon is for stupid people is really pretentious and elitist.

I know lots of VERY intelligent, very enlightened people who listen to all sorts of silly, simplistic music. It's just a matter of taste.

On 2007-01-22 03:23, ocelot wrote:
hey
please stop calling all psychedelic trance music "dark"
if its not house music
or old-school-goa
or rave-anthem cheese ahem full-on
(since when did that become a style not an adjective? oh sorry since GMS invented the genre that entire industries are built on today with two seminal albums- "no rules" and "gms vs systembusters"...oh absolum and talamasca helped with that curvy bassline i would say- but HOmmega was still making Old-School-Goa mind you- which was actually pretty good until about FullOnAudio Vol4)

i object to the use of the term "dark" for anything but gothic stuff with screams and horror sounds...while there is much of this to be sure- this is hardly the term i would use for the vast majority of psytrance that is not house or rave-cheese or old-school-goa...

btw there are actually some interesting new progressive sounds that i would have to say give actual meaning to the word progressive and as such- since the word means absolutely nothing anymore- we have to think of a new word... futuristic? forward-moving trance?
hmmmm

and we need another category for artists and music that defy all the BULLSHIT boxes and just make good music that flows seamlessly between worlds and floats across genres like they are NOTHING!

which in fact, THEY ARE!!!! nothing.
but mental boxes invented by highly uncreative people with sticks up their ass.
so much so that one or two will probably contradict me. you just watch

:::)))

On 2009-10-19 12:43, kazuku wrote:
I think many people have such a problem with what has been come to be generally labelled as darkpsy, the main reason being...the speed and wierdness. Imo this music just represents a different style of trancing, a different approach to achieving a psychedelic experience through trance-dance. Whereas with prog/fullon take a more body orientated/rythmic approach ie. trance comes through traditional dancing. On a fast "darkpsy" floor the energy that is generated is more intense from my experience. More geared towards a different kind of psy experience.It is not so much only dancing in a traditional sense but being "cut apart" by the power of the music. Direct power infusion rather than actively listening to the music, being subatomically disintegrated by the vibration of the music. Imo this is where alot of the names and symbols used come from and are misinterpreted. Sure there is also a lot of dark humour involved, but isnt the psychedelic experience charged with twisted humour on the edge?
I am just looking a a flyer for a party with a halloween theme with OSOM. The flyer has a horror touch to it, cannibal zombies and stuff. Why zombies, cannibals, alien dissections, crazy surgeons? They represent getting massacred by the music on a psychedelic level, getting ripped apart/eaten/shreddered by the music. The shredding and cutting apart of the ego, the self eating itself. Getting massacred by the wall of sound while getting charged by a ammount of energy. Isnt that what all psychedlic music should be geared towards? To act as a tool/vehicle for BooooooooooM?
Sure this style can also be a painful experience, an intense battle. But those who battle on through the darkness, some times for many many hours can be rewarded in their own way. Also I dont see many black clad vampire satanists at these parties...mostly fleuro massacre..
Stop calling psy dark, stop taking darkpsy symbolism to serious, give it a chance, massacre your ego!